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5 hours ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

I'm aware of that.  It was "guilt by association".  Ridiculous.

Don’t bother defending yourself against a 70+ year old woman who is so disgusted by what Kraft did, she cannot reading about it, or stop posting in the Kraft threads and telling us how disgusting he is.

Stay tuned, as soon as she catches up on this page, she’ll be back again to tell us again how repulsed she is, and how immoral we are... again.

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4 hours ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

Absolutely not.

You speak as someone with zero actual experience on this subject other than potentially being a John. 

Please keep your ignorant opinions to those who watch the same "news" channels as yourself. The rest of the world has work to do. 

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7 hours ago, MindOverMatter said:

If it was legal and regulated many of these horrible things would be much easier to be caught and handled. Human trafficking, underage girls, STD's, all these things are kept in check when there is a legal structure in place. I'm with you though, in most cases prostitution is horrible but it's not going anywhere, and Kraft will squirm his way out of this situation untouched (no pun intended ?).

Who knows? that's all speculation. I've treated girls with PTSD from the days of legal prostitition in Nevada.  Same exploitation. Same gross guys thinking they can do what they want because they are paying. Same trauma. 

I hope Krafts vids get put on TMZ and he goes to jail. That's what I hope. 

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11 hours ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

I sports-hate the Patriots but this is absolutely absurd.  They’re “obligated” to release the tape?   What about al the other people who got busted.  Are they going to have their tape released too?   Also I heard that there were some legit massages going on too (including a teenaged girl).   Shouldn’t the police be busted for illegally filming her?!  (Apparently there is a lawsuit)  

Meanwhile it seems increasingly likely that the human trafficking ring story was just a complete fabrication (haven’t heard anything about it since).  So exactly WTF is going on here?   Could it somehow be related to Kraft being buddies with Trump and some powerful person wants revenge?   Could it be related to Dershowitz being taken to trial for pedo accusations?  Maybe Jeffrey Epstein “Lolita Express” related?

Whatever the case, this story stinks to high heaven. 

Ummm.... it's the owner of evil has a chance to be embarrassed.  I think that is it.

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1 hour ago, GREENBEAN said:

Who knows? that's all speculation. I've treated girls with PTSD from the days of legal prostitition in Nevada.  Same exploitation. Same gross guys thinking they can do what they want because they are paying. Same trauma. 

I hope Krafts vids get put on TMZ and he goes to jail. That's what I hope. 

What I hope is that they just lock and dump this thread.  Go talk about your beliefs and judgement elsewhere. 

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5 hours ago, GREENBEAN said:

Who knows? that's all speculation. I've treated girls with PTSD from the days of legal prostitition in Nevada.  Same exploitation. Same gross guys thinking they can do what they want because they are paying. Same trauma. 

I hope Krafts vids get put on TMZ and he goes to jail. That's what I hope. 

If the women were adults and weren't coerced then are you saying that, in general, women are not mature enough to make their own decisions?  And that the legal system needs safeguards in order to protect women from themselves (and their own bad decisions)?

Also, what about the reverse case of male prostitutes?  Should the female clients be put in jail?

And in either case, should the prostitutes be put in jail too or are they just victims in your mind?

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1 minute ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

If the women were adults and weren't coerced then are you saying that, in general, women are not mature enough to make their own decisions?  And that the legal system needs safeguards in order to protect women from themselves (and their own bad decisions)?

Also, what about the reverse case of male prostitutes?  Should the female clients be put in jail?

And in either case, should the prostitutes be put in jail too or are they just victims in your mind?

Seems to me plenty of people end up in therapy for sh*t thier parents do to them as kids, I'm not sure that's the barometer we should use to dictate what consenting adults do.

All the trouble alcohol causes for families, we tried prohibition it doesnt work. Same with the war on drugs. Making this stuff illegal doesnt stop it, it just pushes it into the under world which makes it less safe for all involved and costs a fortune to police, prosecute and imprison. Much more pragmatic to make it legal, out in the open and tax it. Particularly with public debt at about 26T and a much larger unfunded liability bomb about to go off. 

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8 hours ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

You asked me how I could write "what about 'my body, my choice'".  I explained it to you.  The law against prostitution makes no sense anyway.  How is porn legal but prostitution illegal?  In both cases women are selling their body for money.  The only difference is the camera.

You obviously don't get the big picture.  

 

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5 hours ago, johnnysd said:

What I hope is that they just lock and dump this thread.  Go talk about your beliefs and judgement elsewhere. 

LOL you and me both.  Ignorance is like a cheap perfume. You're the only one it doesn't annoy. 

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1 minute ago, MaxAF said:

Prostitution is one of the oldest professions this world has ever known. So what. Who cares. What people do is there business. 

Nah man, with more cops and money and maybe a whole new federal agency with a marketing campaign we can stamp it out 

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5 hours ago, freestater said:

Why is this insulting pats troll tolerated around here? Any one of us would be banned after the first post, if we acted this way on patsfans. Ban this troll.

Lol, its an anti nfl statement. Not a pro Pats Statement. You quoted me calling him a wealthy  idiot. I'm  as bored an sick of them in the playoffs as you are. 

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On 4/18/2019 at 7:06 AM, TuscanyTile2 said:

If the women were adults and weren't coerced then are you saying that, in general, women are not mature enough to make their own decisions?  And that the legal system needs safeguards in order to protect women from themselves (and their own bad decisions)?

Also, what about the reverse case of male prostitutes?  Should the female clients be put in jail?

And in either case, should the prostitutes be put in jail too or are they just victims in your mind?

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1 hour ago, HelenOfTroy said:

Pretty pathetic when a man needs to pay for sex, especially in some lowly dump. 

So what you’re saying is, your opinion hasn’t changed since the last 20 Kraft related posts you’ve made?

Is it also safe to assume that even though you’ve told us in each one you’re repulsed by him and his actions, you’ll still feel the need to post in this thread tomorrow to tell us about it again?

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On 4/17/2019 at 7:36 PM, T0mShane said:

I love how we’re all “let’s flame joewilly12 for posting gay porn” and joe just responds with “the porn featuring young males is only gay if you enjoy it COME ON MAN” and you’re inextricably implicated in the creepness. 

It’s like the Jedi mind trick, with dicks.

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4 hours ago, GREENBEAN said:

Look,  I really don't want to take the bait and get sucked into your obvious political leanings. I am not on one side or another and I really have no interest in the political talking points put forth by big businesses designed to upset and divide people.  Against my better judgement, and partially because I've "known you" on here for years, I'll tell you a few things.  Read it if you'd like. 

  I worked in the adult film industry for 2 years in LA. I've been in the films and also as the production mgr for large budget full-length features. I was the guy who read over the contracts with the girls who were about to be in the film. They were making their own decisions of course. I tried to make clear how wholly the company would own them should they sign the dotted line. Problem was they needed the money. Whether due to addiction or abusive backgrounds etc.  They were not in positions to make healthy decisions and the companies know that. They take advantage of them and then exploit the living hell out of them for years.  and the damage is always realized at some point. Just too late.  I've been there and I've seen the truth of it. 

Since then I've been a therapist and treated no less than thousands of women with sexual exploitation in their background. What they go through is terrible. These guys like Kraft and thousands of others are the reason this happens.  For example, When you walk into a massage parlor to get a handie the woman doing it is not there because life is good. It's the low point of her life and they are stuck.  Still... it's their choice and that's not what I'm really talking about as bad as it is. 

What I am talking about is if you are going to play around with this painful and dark world that's your choice. If you get caught, you get caught.  Guys like Kraft who think it's ok to partake in this stuff because they are above the law and don't really give a rats a$$ about the other person should pay the same penalty as a regular fella.   Hey, people make decisions.  Kraft made a decision. It's illegal and it's despicable (my opinion) And he got caught. He should absolutely pay the penalty for it.  That's really it.

And to answer your question gender has zero impact on my thoughts. I don't know why it would. 

That all said, I'll apologize for all of the words. Being succinct is not my strong suit. 

Please host a “Ask Me Anything” thread

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This story will eventually become about wealth and privilege over sex as kraft skates and the other johns don’t 

before it’s all over the DA, cops will lose their reputations and careers and Kraft will get an apology from them 

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5 hours ago, johnnysd said:

Like I said you should take your self righteous political drivel somewhere else and this thread should be closed.

How does expecting someone who breaks existing laws, faces fines or punishment established for those fines become self righteous political drivel?  Seems to me its the other way around

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On 4/17/2019 at 10:01 PM, Hackenberg said:

whats your proof that the incident  actually happened?  Belief in words on screen dont' make  it real. And Alex Jones is a govt shill. If he was actually anti establishment, he would have never had a national  radio show. He's as useless  as Rush Limbaugh, CNN or Fox

Where can I subscribe to your podcast?

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