Philc1 Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 The three best players in this draft are Bosa, Quinnen Williams and Josh Allen. Jets are going to be in a position to draft one of them why is this a bad thing? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulyjet Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 Their the jets... 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 Well the big three this year imo are no where near as good as most big threes in most drafts. Bosa or Allen would be fine Q Williams would be a huge disappointment for me. I have a feeling Bosa will be there for us. 6 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbt Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 are they that much better than guys they can draft if they trade down? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 The mysterious one is Allen. It seems that people dont believe he is the slam dunk pass rusher that people think he can be. Bosa probably won't be there and QW is not a true fit for us 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted April 22, 2019 Author Share Posted April 22, 2019 1 minute ago, paulyjet said: Their the jets... We passed on Dan Marino and Payton Manning for Kenny O’Brien and James Farrior Now Mac is trying to trade down to draft a Guard What a joke 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted April 22, 2019 Author Share Posted April 22, 2019 Just now, UnitedWhofans said: The mysterious one is Allen. It seems that people dont believe he is the slam dunk pass rusher that people think he can be. Bosa probably won't be there and QW is not a true fit for us QW is not a fit? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post UnitedWhofans Posted April 22, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted April 22, 2019 Just now, Philc1 said: We passed on Dan Marino and Payton Manning for Kenny O’Brien and James Farrior Now Mac is trying to trade down to draft a Guard What a joke Wait we passed on Peyton? 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted April 22, 2019 Author Share Posted April 22, 2019 1 minute ago, jbt said: are they that much better than guys they can draft if they trade down? Yes Sweat has a heart condition, Oliver is an undersized DT I don’t get the insane hype 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 Just now, Philc1 said: QW is not a fit? It depends on the system we use. I'm thinking more alongside Gregg Williams and the type of player he likes. And there is a chance that QW might not be there either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted April 22, 2019 Author Share Posted April 22, 2019 1 minute ago, UnitedWhofans said: Wait we passed on Peyton? Bill Parcells did as our GM and Coach 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 Just now, Philc1 said: Bill Parcells did as our GM and Coach Not in the draft. This was back in 1997 before the draft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted April 22, 2019 Author Share Posted April 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, Beerfish said: Well the big three this year imo are no where near as good as most big threes in most drafts. Bosa or Allen would be fine Q Williams would be a huge disappointment for me. I have a feeling Bosa will be there for us. I think Bosa is a 49er. If he’s there at 3 absolutely snatch him up 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SR24 Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 It’s a win win for me either fleece a team for #3 or land a T3 prospect. Hope Bosa is there at 3 but I’m fine with leaving with QW,Oliver or Allen 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFaninMI Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 Well I wouldn't be upset if they traded the pick simply because that 2nd rounder is very important this year at least for me. More picks early mean a better shot of filling all those holes with quality prospects. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted April 22, 2019 Author Share Posted April 22, 2019 Just now, UnitedWhofans said: Not in the draft. This was back in 1997 before the draft Manning wanted to come out as a junior but Parcells said he wouldn’t guarantee taking him first overall that made a big financial difference to him at the time 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenbloodblitz Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 1 minute ago, Philc1 said: Bill Parcells did as our GM and Coach That is not true at all Peyton Manning didn't want to be a jet and chose to stay in school cuz we had the first round pick that year 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted April 22, 2019 Author Share Posted April 22, 2019 Just now, JetFaninMI said: Well I wouldn't be upset if they traded the pick simply because that 2nd rounder is very important this year at least for me. More picks early mean a better shot of filling all those holes with quality prospects. So trade Leo for a second. We get another early pick plus avoid Mac’s next stupid contract Win win 1 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 Just now, Philc1 said: Manning wanted to come out as a junior but Parcells said he wouldn’t guarantee taking him first overall that made a big financial difference to him at the time Yes but you forget they traded down. They did not take Farrior #1. Basically that addition to the Marino-O'Brien thing is not really valid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post T0mShane Posted April 22, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted April 22, 2019 Because JJ Watt and Aaron Donald are unicorn elite all-time players and their teams were non-competitive until they found decent quarterbacks. Q. Williams isn’t the prospect that Watt or Donald were, and he’s redundant with Leonard Williams here. 6 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 7 minutes ago, Philc1 said: The three best players in this draft are Bosa, Quinnen Williams and Josh Allen. Jets are going to be in a position to draft one of them why is this a bad thing? What makes you think every NFL team has the same 3 players at the top of their draft boards? Those guys are my top 3, but I am sure there are teams with guys like White/Oliver/Jonah and a couple of others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PepPep Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 8 minutes ago, paulyjet said: Their the jets... 'They're' the Jets 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted April 22, 2019 Author Share Posted April 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, Greenbloodblitz said: That is not true at all Peyton Manning didn't want to be a jet and chose to stay in school cuz we had the first round pick that year https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/myers-bill-parcells-made-peyton-manning-jets-qb-article-1.2556313 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted April 22, 2019 Author Share Posted April 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: What makes you think every NFL team has the same 3 players at the top of their draft boards? Those guys are my top 3, but I am sure there are teams with guys like White/Oliver/Jonah and a couple of others. Devin White?!?! Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 12 minutes ago, Philc1 said: The three best players in this draft are Bosa, Quinnen Williams and Josh Allen. Jets are going to be in a position to draft one of them why is this a bad thing? Josh Allen is not among the top 3 players in the draft. Jets fans are overrating Allen because the team whiffed on Barr and it's such a dire need Ed Oliver is a better prospect than Josh Allen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 "Meanwhile, there’s a feeling inside the building that Allen might take more time to ultimately realize his potential." It's from Manish's article so the usual grain of salt is required Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 10 minutes ago, Philc1 said: We passed on Dan Marino and Payton Manning for Kenny O’Brien and James Farrior Now Mac is trying to trade down to draft a Guard What a joke QBs vs interior Dlineman interesting. Do you really feel that the top three of this draft are totally can't miss pro bowlers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted April 22, 2019 Author Share Posted April 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, bitonti said: Josh Allen is not among the top 3 players in the draft. Jets fans are overrating Allen because the team whiffed on Barr and it's such a dire need Ed Oliver is a better prospect than Josh Allen. OLB is a dire need but Barr did us a favor he’s ridiculously overrated I’m only ok with drafting Oliver if we switch to a 4-3 and he plays outside Otherwise he’s too small to play the interior in a full time 3-4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Because JJ Watt and Aaron Donald are unicorn elite all-time players and their teams were non-competitive until they found decent quarterbacks. Q. Williams isn’t the prospect that Watt or Donald were, and he’s redundant with Leonard Williams here. Watt was taken 11th, Donald 13th. Revisionist history has Watt and Donald being consensus all time greats out of college. Quinnen is just as good a prospect as Watt/Donald were. Whether he ends up being as good is a different question. From Watt's draft profile: WEAKNESSES Won't consistently get the edge on tackles with his get off or quickness. Plays high at times, can be blown off the ball by the double team, but does fight hard to hold ground. Lacks some lateral mobility both rushing the passer and playing in space. Will occasionally give up outside contain. From Donald's draft profile on NFL.com: WEAKNESSES Marginal height and frame is nearly maxed out. Hands are more active than strong -- could play with more pop and power. Overpowered in the run game and ground up by double teams. Gets snared and controlled by bigger, longer blockers. Not a two-gap player. Has some tweener traits -- lacks ideal length and bend to play outside. DRAFT PROJECTION Rounds 4-5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted April 22, 2019 Author Share Posted April 22, 2019 1 minute ago, Beerfish said: QBs vs interior Dlineman interesting. Do you really feel that the top three of this draft are totally can't miss pro bowlers? I think Jonah ends up a right tackle or guard 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 Just now, Philc1 said: OLB is a dire need but Barr did us a favor he’s ridiculously overrated I’m only ok with drafting Oliver if we switch to a 4-3. Otherwise he’s too small to play the interior in a full time 3-4 Guess who the comp for Josh Allen is? Anthony Barr 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted April 22, 2019 Author Share Posted April 22, 2019 Just now, JoJoTownsell1 said: Watt was taken 11th, Donald 13th. Revisionist history has Watt and Donald being consensus all time greats out of college. Quinnen is just as good a prospect as Watt/Donald were. Whether he ends up being as good is a different question. From Watt's draft profile: WEAKNESSES Won't consistently get the edge on tackles with his get off or quickness. Plays high at times, can be blown off the ball by the double team, but does fight hard to hold ground. Lacks some lateral mobility both rushing the passer and playing in space. Will occasionally give up outside contain. From Donald's draft profile on NFL.com: WEAKNESSES Marginal height and frame is nearly maxed out. Hands are more active than strong -- could play with more pop and power. Overpowered in the run game and ground up by double teams. Gets snared and controlled by bigger, longer blockers. Not a two-gap player. Has some tweener traits -- lacks ideal length and bend to play outside. DRAFT PROJECTION Rounds 4-5 The overthinking about Quinnen Williams is quite frankly shocking. The guy is a monster 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted April 22, 2019 Author Share Posted April 22, 2019 Just now, UnitedWhofans said: Guess who the comp for Josh Allen is? Anthony Barr Is Allen Anthony Barr with pass rush? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 5 minutes ago, Philc1 said: Devin White?!?! Lol Yes, Devin White. If you followed college football you would know how good he is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted April 22, 2019 Author Share Posted April 22, 2019 Just now, JoJoTownsell1 said: Yes, Devin White. If you followed college football you would know how good he is. I do he’s not as good as the big 3 sorry 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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