choon328 Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 Now we know why the rumors of the Jets loving Oliver came out. If you want Oliver you need to get ahead of the Raiders and trade with the Jets. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, choon328 said: Now we know why the rumors of the Jets loving Oliver came out. If you want Oliver you need to get ahead of the Raiders and trade with the Jets. or trade with the 49ers to jump ahead of the jets to get him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Scott Dierking Posted April 22, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted April 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, choon328 said: Now we know why the rumors of the Jets loving Oliver came out. If you want Oliver you need to get ahead of the Raiders and trade with the Jets. this could have come from only 2 people in the Raider organization, as I understand things. Maybe there should only be 1 person in the room. 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 If Bosa and Quinnen go in the first 2, I can see the Jets taking Oliver over Allen, if they don’t trade. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 1 minute ago, varjet said: If Bosa and Quinnen go in the first 2, I can see the Jets taking Oliver over Allen, if they don’t trade. I agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 If the Jets can goad the Raiders into flipping them a third to trade up one spot, it would be brilliant 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 5 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: I agree And the fact that we can see them doing it might scare the Raiders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 16 minutes ago, choon328 said: Now we know why the rumors of the Jets loving Oliver came out. If you want Oliver you need to get ahead of the Raiders and trade with the Jets. As a fellow JN mused, the timing of Mayock "sending his scouting team home" was suspiciously close the time the Jets suddenly fell in love with Oliver. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 6 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: If the Jets can goad the Raiders into flipping them a third to trade up one spot, it would be brilliant Need a 2nd or a late 1st to move back 1 spot we aren't a charity team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 Just now, joewilly12 said: Need a 2nd or a late 1st to move back 1 spot we aren't a charity team. I said a 3rd because then we would have 3 3's and can trade back up into the 2nd round. But if they're willing to give up a 2, sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 22 minutes ago, Scott Dierking said: this could have come from only 2 people in the Raider organization, as I understand things. Maybe there should only be 1 person in the room. Revenge of the humiliated scouts! SMH 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Need a 2nd or a late 1st to move back 1 spot we aren't a charity team. Charity? No. But I rather get a free 3rd pick if possible. Especially if the Jets know who the Raiders are taking at 3 and don't want that player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndianaJet Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 1 minute ago, UnitedWhofans said: I said a 3rd because then we would have 3 3's and can trade back up into the 2nd round. But if they're willing to give up a 2, sure Raiders don't have a 3rd. They have 1-4 1-24 1-27 2-3 (35) 4-4 (106) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 Just now, IndianaJet said: Raiders don't have a 3rd. They have 1-4 1-24 1-27 2-3 (35) Oh never mind. Per the draft value chart, the Raiders would be overpaying by 150 to make that deal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 14 minutes ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: Charity? No. But I rather get a free 3rd pick if possible. Especially if the Jets know who the Raiders are taking at 3 and don't want that player. No way in hell do you move back 1 spot and only get a 3rd pick for it. If the Raiders want it bad enough make them pay. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SR24 Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 Just now, joewilly12 said: No way in hell do you move back 1 spot and only get a 3rd pick for it. If the Raiders want it bad enough make them pay. #4 and #27 for #3 and #68 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southtown24th Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 hence why we are saying "we love Oliver" TRADING BACK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamax99 Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 Smoke screen, Raiders want J Allen or Bosa take that to the bank!! They do not want Jets to take them or trade out of pick and someone looking to move ahead of them. They want and need to replace K mack . What better way then J Allen. JETS DO NOT FALL INTO THE TRAP TAKE ONE OF THE TOP 3 STUDS!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 ESPN's Rich Cimini reports Jets GM Mike Maccagnan "really likes" Houston DL Ed Oliver. The public perception of Oliver's draft stock has been a roller coaster since the season ended, but it now appears as if he could come off the board in the first five picks as many expected four months ago. That said, the Jets have been heavily linked with a trade down, so perhaps they are targeting Oliver later in the top ten. New York is reportedly down on Kentucky OLB Josh Allen, who will likely be the best player available at No. 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 12 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: ESPN's Rich Cimini reports Jets GM Mike Maccagnan "really likes" Houston DL Ed Oliver. The public perception of Oliver's draft stock has been a roller coaster since the season ended, but it now appears as if he could come off the board in the first five picks as many expected four months ago. That said, the Jets have been heavily linked with a trade down, so perhaps they are targeting Oliver later in the top ten. New York is reportedly down on Kentucky OLB Josh Allen, who will likely be the best player available at No. 3. My suspicion is that if this actually made it to the public domain, it is fake news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 59 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: If the Jets can goad the Raiders into flipping them a third to trade up one spot, it would be brilliant What team would be dumb enough to trade away picks for one spot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cant wait Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 48 minutes ago, Paradis said: As a fellow JN mused, the timing of Mayock "sending his scouting team home" was suspiciously close the time the Jets suddenly fell in love with Oliver. the plot thickens! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lonelyhearts Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 9 minutes ago, varjet said: My suspicion is that if this actually made it to the public domain, it is fake news. OMGDERPSCREENS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsplayer21 Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 53 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Need a 2nd or a late 1st to move back 1 spot we aren't a charity team. I wish was a qb, not a D tackle.. the giants last yr really could have screwed with Mac, not that would be hard. If they told Mac last min. After mayfield was picked “ give us your first round pick for 19, or we are trading the 2nd pick to someone else “ you think Mac would have called their bluff ? Giants could have recieved a “ truckload “ for that 2nd pick once mayfield was picked. I really wouldn’t have been shocked if Mac gave the giants what they wanted to swap spots.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 No one is trading up for a DT in a DT heavy draft. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 12 minutes ago, New York Mick said: What team would be dumb enough to trade away picks for one spot? Oddly enough, the Cardinals traded from 4 to 3 with the Jets a while back to get Garrison Hearst IIRC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 14 minutes ago, Jetsplayer21 said: I wish was a qb, not a D tackle.. the giants last yr really could have screwed with Mac, not that would be hard. If they told Mac last min. After mayfield was picked “ give us your first round pick for 19, or we are trading the 2nd pick to someone else “ you think Mac would have called their bluff ? Giants could have recieved a “ truckload “ for that 2nd pick once mayfield was picked. I really wouldn’t have been shocked if Mac gave the giants what they wanted to swap spots.. Jets lucked out that Barkley was a generational RB. The buzz about Barkley was deafening, Giants couldn't pass him up. Thank god, any other scenario other than that freak of nature & the Jets are watching Sam Darnold as a New York Giant. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsplayer21 Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 10 minutes ago, Jetster said: Jets lucked out that Barkley was a generational RB. The buzz about Barkley was deafening, Giants couldn't pass him up. Thank god, any other scenario other than that freak of nature & the Jets are watching Sam Darnold as a New York Giant. So you are saying mac, and/or fans would have been just as happy taking Barkley if giants took darnold, or traded the pick ? You are right about Barkley, but we just bought one of the best RBs in the game, fairly cheap. You can’t just buy the top qb in fa, like you can a rb. Teams do not let them go,RBs shelf-life is less then half a qb. Giants cold have traded back to about 10, received a 2nd and 3rd, and a first and 2nd this yr.. Barkley is amazing, but they had so many holes I’m shocked they didn’t do that.. either way, mac obviously didn’t say “ I”ll take darnold or Barkley and be happy with either.. no way.. He would have been fired if he took Barkley.. I think he knew if he didn’t do everything he could to land darnold after being so close, he would be gone.. it’s one thing if mayfield was there, but I think it would have been a huge letdown to trade up to 3 and only come out with Rosen or Allen.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 2 hours ago, Augustiniak said: or trade with the 49ers to jump ahead of the jets to get him. If anyone trades up with Niners to get Oliver, that means the Jets get a choice of Bosa, Williams and Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 Just now, SMC said: If anyone trades up with Niners to get Oliver, that means the Jets get a choice of Bosa, Williams and Allen or he knows he can trade back b/c someone else loves williams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 2 hours ago, choon328 said: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lonelyhearts Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 1 minute ago, SMC said: If anyone trades up with Niners to get Oliver, that means the Jets get a choice of Bosa, Williams and Allen Nobody is trading up for a guy who beat his coach up over a jacket duh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 Here we go! bluffapalooza!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 2 hours ago, Augustiniak said: or trade with the 49ers to jump ahead of the jets to get him. The thing is that trade doesn't make any sense. Have the Niners and Raiders ever even made a trade with each other? The Niners just told Oakland to eat sh*t with respect to playing at Levi's too. Unless they're fleecing Gruden it's hard to imagine them doing this, and it's also hard to imagine Gruden giving up everything he just gained on the Mack trade just to replace him with Oliver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choon328 Posted April 22, 2019 Author Share Posted April 22, 2019 1 hour ago, joewilly12 said: Need a 2nd or a late 1st to move back 1 spot we aren't a charity team. It cost the Bears a 3rd, 4th and the following years 3rd to move up 1 spot (3 to 2) in 2017. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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