Miss Lonelyhearts Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: Looking at the general reaction on Twitter (for what that means) I would say 70-30 in favor of the "pussy" pick That's what makes it the pussy pick. I'm sure Maccagnan is comfortable with where he is. Just like I'm comfortable thinking the obvious pick is what everybody else thinks is controversial. Different approaches. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cant wait Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 4 minutes ago, Miss Lonelyhearts said: In everyone's opinion. It's the pussy pick. Maccagnan makes the pussy pick. This is not good but nor is it bad. One entirely valid approach to the draft is mitigating risk everywhere you possibly can, and not straying too far from the wisdom of crowds is a part of that. Of course this is not his actual philosophy outside of the first round so it shouldn't be the guiding consideration there either. 100% spot on. the fat guy that runs fast is the default pick for the spineless GM afraid to make a decision Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morny Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 Out of curiosity, and because I've got no memory, what was the concensus on Leo going into 2015, draft? Similar thoughts to Quinnen, in so far as they thought he was unblockable game disrupter? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lonelyhearts Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 1 minute ago, cant wait said: 100% spot on. the fat guy that runs fast is the default pick for the spineless GM afraid to make a decision Also, same as LWilliams and Adams, he's the one who is where he is on boards because everybody says so and not for reasons I have seen articulated or understand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 3 hours ago, Mac is a Tool said: 2 more days 2 days too many. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lonelyhearts Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, morny said: Out of curiosity, and because I've got no memory, what was the concensus on Leo going into 2015, draft? Similar thoughts to Quinnen, in so far as they thought he was unblockable game disrupter? I don't think anybody who was actually paying attention thought that. He has always been a read and react player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lonelyhearts Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 5 minutes ago, morny said: Out of curiosity, and because I've got no memory, what was the concensus on Leo going into 2015, draft? Similar thoughts to Quinnen, in so far as they thought he was unblockable game disrupter? http://www.nfl.com/player/leonardwilliams/2552486/combine See, like this. I understand all of it except how it equals the broad consensus best player in that draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 6 minutes ago, Miss Lonelyhearts said: http://www.nfl.com/player/leonardwilliams/2552486/combine See, like this. I understand all of it except how it equals the broad consensus best player in that draft. Adams too. Ok college tape for both of them. TFL and INT’s both average respectively in college. Good agents maybe IDK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 1 hour ago, CTM said: Leo v.2 And of course McGack will draft him If nobody is sitting next to him? 100% yes. Let’s hope someone is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genot Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 55 minutes ago, JetFaninMI said: Where Huh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 27 minutes ago, Miss Lonelyhearts said: Also, same as LWilliams and Adams, he's the one who is where he is on boards because everybody says so and not for reasons I have seen articulated or understand. Bizzare. Not sure how this takes hold, just dumb luck that our idiot GM continues to have talking head consensus guys fall into his lap that everyone else passed on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 31 minutes ago, morny said: Out of curiosity, and because I've got no memory, what was the concensus on Leo going into 2015, draft? Similar thoughts to Quinnen, in so far as they thought he was unblockable game disrupter? Mel Kipers of the world said potential best player in the draft, numbers said mediocre athlete and jag. Mac said yas give me some draft monkey lurve 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 7 minutes ago, CTM said: Mel Kipers of the world said potential best player in the draft, numbers said mediocre athlete and jag. Mac said yas give me some draft monkey lurve Beyond that. Anonymous scout had compared him to Reggie White coming out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lonelyhearts Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 7 minutes ago, Matt39 said: Beyond that. Anonymous scout had compared him to Reggie White coming out. 1. Last guy off the ball every snap 2. ??? 3. Therefore, basically Reggie White Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 54 minutes ago, Miss Lonelyhearts said: Also, same as LWilliams and Adams, he's the one who is where he is on boards because everybody says so and not for reasons I have seen articulated or understand. Speaking of which, did we ever see the agility numbers for Quinnen Williams or will that be like a surprise? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Miss Lonelyhearts said: In everyone's opinion. It's the pussy pick. Maccagnan makes the pussy pick. This is not good but nor is it bad. One entirely valid approach to the draft is mitigating risk everywhere you possibly can, and not straying too far from the wisdom of crowds is a part of that. Of course this is not his actual philosophy outside of the first round so it shouldn't be the guiding consideration there either. Have no idea why you sent this to me over a post I made to Tom that Schrager is a talking head on the Good Morning Football morning show on the NFLN. And I don't agree that drafting LW, widely considered the best player in the draft is a pussy pick, if that's what you're saying. Nice way to twist the draft to fit your agenda, yes. Pussy move, lol, ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 4 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Speaking of which, did we ever see the agility numbers for Quinnen Williams or will that be like a surprise? Doubtful. Dont think he ever ran them. His first step/quickness do look significantly better than Williams coming out though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, Matt39 said: Doubtful. Dont think he ever ran them. His first step/quickness do look significantly better than Williams coming out though. He does, but so does Henry Anderson’s lol 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J_Smith Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 1 minute ago, Matt39 said: Doubtful. Dont think he ever ran them. His first step/quickness do look significantly better than Williams coming out though. Oliver ran them, and his numbers were incredible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 1 minute ago, T0mShane said: He does, but so does Henry Anderson’s lol Valid. This sucks. It feels like Williams now. If we're going for safe cant miss hell just take Hockenson and he's your starting TE for the next 10 seasons and can at least put the ball in the endzone. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 1 minute ago, Matt39 said: Valid. This sucks. It feels like Williams now. If we're going for safe cant miss hell just take Hockenson and he's your starting TE for the next 10 seasons and can at least put the ball in the endzone. Do you believe that the Jets would fore a trade to avoid that possibility Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: Do you believe that the Jets would fore a trade to avoid that possibility Why? No one's trading up for Quinnen Williams and it seems unlikely anyone is bullish on Haskins Lock Duke guy. Hockenson's projected top 15. He wont bust. We have two DT's making decent money. It's a bit outside the box, but Williams is Leonard 2.0. The concept of a reach when you're not taking a QB in round 1 is silly at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 1 minute ago, Matt39 said: Valid. This sucks. It feels like Williams now. If we're going for safe cant miss hell just take Hockenson and he's your starting TE for the next 10 seasons and can at least put the ball in the endzone. Maybe they get the trade down after all. It’s likely Heimerdinger is tasked with that part, so maybe he pulls it off. It’d be tough to draft Q. Williams, then wait until Round Three to draft a CB and maybe a WR(?), and then spend the whole summer hearing about Gregg Williams finding a way to get Quinnen, Leonard, and Anderson on the field at the same time. It’s just boring, which is not the return you expect when you tank a season to get the third pick. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 1 minute ago, Matt39 said: Why? No one's trading up for Quinnen Williams and it seems unlikely anyone is bullish on Haskins Lock Duke guy. Hockenson's projected top 15. He wont bust. We have two DT's making decent money. It's a bit outside the box, but Williams is Leonard 2.0. It’s YOLO stupid, but they could do the same with DK Metcalf and pray to God he stays healthy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFaninMI Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 54 minutes ago, genot said: Huh Who Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 5 hours ago, Rhg1084 said: According to Peter Schaeger. Jets will select Williams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 Just now, T0mShane said: It’s YOLO stupid, but they could do the same with DK Metcalf and pray to God he stays healthy Maccagnan wont do it. But if the rationale is safe, "cant miss" maybe at least consider the one guy on offense in this draft that qualifies instead of taking DT for the 58th time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 Just now, Philc1 said: Steve Serby bro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, Matt39 said: Maccagnan wont do it. But if the rationale is safe, "cant miss" maybe at least consider the one guy on offense in this draft that qualifies instead of taking DT for the 58th time. I agree. And you’d get the added bonus of drafting a player who will score TDs, which would be novel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lonelyhearts Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 20 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: Have no idea why you sent this to me over a post I made to Tom that Schrager is a talking head on the Good Morning Football morning show on the NFLN. Because even a talking head on good morning footballmerica is capable of telling you that QWilliams is the chalk pick for Maccagnan. Yeah, he's an idiot. But so what. It doesn't take a genius. Also you seem to be having this weird issue with the whole message board thing. Not everything that is said in response to one of your posts is intended as the initiation of a personal conversation with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lonelyhearts Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 26 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Speaking of which, did we ever see the agility numbers for Quinnen Williams or will that be like a surprise? That is both proprietary and ambiguous. I don't know why you're talking to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 10 minutes ago, T0mShane said: I agree. And you’d get the added bonus of drafting a player who will score TDs, which would be novel Vegas book apparently took taking "No" for Murray going 1 off the board, which could be best case here for Jets and saving Maccagnan from himself. If Quinnen is gone- then it has to be Oliver right? Keim is arguably worse than Maccagnan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, Miss Lonelyhearts said: That is both proprietary and ambiguous. I don't know why you're talking to me. ???????? Not everything that is said in response to one of your posts is intended as the initiation of a personal conversation with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 1 minute ago, Matt39 said: Vegas book apparently took taking "No" for Murray going 1 off the board, which could be best case here for Jets and saving Maccagnan from himself. If Quinnen is gone- then it has to be Oliver right? Keim is arguably worse than Maccagnan. I’m missing what that first part means: that Vegas is locked in for Murray going 1? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 2 hours ago, Raideraholic said: Montez Sweat. Going to drop because of medical issues( no team taking him in top five probably top 10. If he makes it to 24 , he will be a Raider. If Bosa goes number 1 Josh Allen will go two. Now what do the Jets do. q Williams . Bills will take sweat if he is there. He's not falling to 10 or to 15. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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