*******OFFICIAL NFL DRAFT DAYS THREAD*******

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2 minutes ago, ThisYearsModel said:

Streams won’t work in The Netherlands, so I will follow here with all of you good people.

I apologize in advance.

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Just now, T0mShane said:

What the **** was that monologue by Wingo? That was the corniest sh*t I’ve ever heard and he’s screaming it. Jesus Christ

Dude reach under that filthy couch cushion and wade through the old popcorn, 80's Playboys, empty sandwich bags, the pocket p, and find your remote.  It's on the NFL Network too.

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1 minute ago, Matt39 said:

gist?

something about Robert Kraft never being in that Spa.

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Great pick..  wasn't going to get low-balled so he just said I'll take the consensus #1 player in the draft.

Would have preferred a trade but not if it meant getting less than fair value.

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Someone forget to tell the Raiders about the SpockRAtingZ

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Just now, Wonderboy said:

That’s because no team is stupid enough to get fleeced by Macc. He’s the laughingstock in the NFL GM universe. No one takes him seriously. 

He's won just about every trade he's made...  but your story is fine I guess.

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5 minutes ago, dbatesman said:

Stats are bad, because a good and smart franchise like the Raiders ignores them

along with the cardinals, jets, and bucs so far...

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Another first round stud for Macc.

I'll remember to necro this thread in Sept when Greg Williams has these guys feasting on offenses.

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oh hey I guess the Giants didn't see the Sparks either..  weird.

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how is it supposedly intelligent Jet fans know we need to beat the Pats, know (or should know) that Bradys weakness is pressure up the middle, we get a stud player in the middle, and said Jet fans weep for hours.

the giants didn't win those SB's because they had a good RG.

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Just now, JetFaninMI said:

Yeah make sure you do. Especially in a pass happy League......but we got that run covered.....BOOYAH.

Defensive linemen are allowed to advance past the line of scrimmage.

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1 minute ago, dbatesman said:

Because we passed on a studlier player who plays the exact same position. You don’t even know what you’re arguing anymore.

o/u on your stud Spanks player getting picked is 11PM

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1 minute ago, Integrity28 said:

I agree. I think the problem for most folks here is that they wanted Ed Oliver for these reasons, and wanted him later - so we could recoup some picks. If the Lions take Oliver here, then it's moot - because it was the Bills pick that we were most likely going to land to make this happen, and trading in-division is a pipe dream.

but why is everyone acting like Macc was stubbornly refusing deals..  it was common knowledge they wanted to trade down but not if it meant getting bent over..  F the teams that low balled him and lets hope Quinnen is as advertised.

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1 minute ago, T0mShane said:

Is Quinnen Williams studlier than the last stud player we drafted at six to pressure Tom Brady? Or the guy we just paid $8 mil per to to pressure Brady up the middle? I’ll just assume that he’s studlier than the 28 year old DT we took in the third round last year to pressure Tom Brady.

Meanwhile turn ESPN back on..  teams keep passing on your wunderkind and his incredible 3 cone time.

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Just now, Warfish said:

Grats to Lions gettin my favorite guy.

Glad the Bills didn't get him...  I was texting with a bills fan buddy hoping he wasn't going to be there..  we just got rid of gronk..  don't need another stud TE to deal with.

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Just now, Integrity28 said:

I don't know. Don't care really, either. Not sure why you do. 

Mac has established a reputation of faltering at the negotiation table where it concerns trades. People just take past failures and lump them together with recent ones, and then whine. It's what people do.

I think you think I care about this a lot more than I actually do lol..

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5 minutes ago, dbatesman said:

owned

you should have bet the under.

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Just now, Integrity28 said:

I think your behavior speaks louder than your attempts to deflect.

haha..  can't believe this weak sh-t actually gets people mad.  it's literally you telling fairy tales.

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Just now, Jet_Engine1 said:

The Giants ran a 4-3 and played guys suited for their positions. 

 

We just watched the Jets tale their 5th (?) Interior D lineman to play in a 3-4 that is too small to play 0, and not really fast or "bendy" enough to rush from the edge. Because they're ******* retarded.

How many times, from how many pundits, does it need to be said that the nickle is the primary D these days?

Why do you believe the Jets are sticking with a 3-4 when no one has heard a peep from the guy who gets to decide?

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4 minutes ago, TeddEY said:

His defense gave up 44 points in the national championship and his contribution was 3 tackles.

Ed Olivers defense gave up 52 pts to the juggernaut Memphis Tigers and his contribution was 3 tackles (1 was assisted).

this is fun....

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2 minutes ago, TeddEY said:

How many of Ed Oliver’s teammates will be drafted?

How many Memphis Tigers will be drafted?

round-n-round we go...

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Just now, TeddEY said:

Except your point is irrelevant.

YOUR point is irrelevant.

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1 minute ago, Integrity28 said:

 

@Pac lololol

HIIT, I hope.

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NFL Draft 2019: How much did Florida defensive end Jachai Polite's pre-draft performance hurt him?

For months, Jachai Polite hasn't been able to do anything right. The pre-draft process has been a nightmare for the 20-year-old defensive end.

Never mind that he logged 11 sacks in the SEC in 2018. Never mind that he had 17.5 tackles for loss while forcing an absurd six fumbles, batting four balls and racking up 45 tackles. Never mind that he was a finalist for the Chuck Bednarik Award, given to the best defensive player in college football.

Those successes have gone somewhat forgotten as the Florida Gators prospect seems to make a mistake - or get bad breaks - at every opportunity he has to convince an NFL team that he's worth a multi-million-dollar salary.

Polite's pre-draft process has been like that moment in movies where the protagonist announces, "This couldn't get any worse," and then it starts raining. But for Polite, it's been a mix of hail and ash from a nearby dumpster fire.

But that's why I'm rooting for the guy. The pre-draft process can tell NFL teams a lot about a player. It can also lead to an enormous misrepresentation. Media members - myself and my co-workers included - and teams pile criticism on these young adults, who are intent upon making a better future for their family. Some teams trash a player because they want to draft him after other teams to pass on that player.

LSU running back Clyde Edwards-Helaire, right, runs past Florida defensive lineman Jachai Polite (99) during the first half of an NCAA college football game, Saturday, Oct. 6, 2018, in Gainesville, Fla. (Photo: John Raoux, AP)

Here's one example of misunderstanding the youngster: Polite wants to give his mother an early retirement with his first NFL contract. She's a supervisor of housekeepers at a hotel while also doing hair-styling out of her house.

Sounds like a terrible kid, huh?

But that's not what people are focused on. Let's run down the no-good, very-bad sequence of events the seem to have knocked Polite out of first-round contention.

He ran a 4.84 40-yard dash at the combine in Indianapolis. That's very slow for a defensive lineman, even if there's video of Polite running down a receiver from behind after 40 yards. (Admittedly, he made the wrong read on the play, largely because he flew off the ball so quickly. But he made up for it by flying to the ball with impressive effort.)

He jumped 32 inches at the combine. Again, that's very low for a defensive end - and yet he batted four passes in 2018. Also, who cares about how high a pass-rusher can jump? Looks like he jumped too high in this case.

Those were the only workouts he did at the combine. A question followed: What else is he hiding?

During interviews in Indianapolis, he left scouts concerned about his maturity. He then met with reporters and explained that he was surprised to receive so much negativity from scouts about his game. That negativity was, no doubt, a test - he said he knew that at the combine. He failed that test - he later admitted that.

Vanderbilt Commodores quarterback Kyle Shurmur (14) throws the ball as Florida Gators defensive lineman Jachai Polite (99) defends during the first half at Ben Hill Griffin Stadium. (Photo: Kim Klement / USA TODAY Sports)

 

While that's partially his fault, it's also the fault of the people around him. Why didn't his agent properly prepare him for the criticism he'd face? Why wasn't he coached on how to handle those challenging questions? Everyone could (and should) have anticipated them. Because of his naivety, the media ran with the young man's honesty about the process. (Honesty is a rarity at the combine, where everything - from a throwing routine to a meeting with reporters - is rehearsed, practiced and scripted.) And the transcript of his comments seemed a lot more harsh than the comments themselves in person and on video. Here's some context for what was actually a fairly harmless interaction, which seemed to spiral out of control.

During his pro day, a moment when he could have righted the screwy process, he showed up looking less-than-ripped. (This league is all about the jacked-up, twitchy players who pass the eye-test.) Then, Polite injured his hamstring and had to end his day early.

Had his pre-draft process gone well, perhaps he'd be in the discussion to go in the top 15 selections, with NFL.com's Lance Zuerlein comparing him to Falcons' Vic Beasley, the eighth-overall pick in 2015. Instead, media members are suggesting Polite has slipped into the second round of the draft. If that projection bears out, the fall from 15th overall to 40th overall is a costly one. After this year's draft, the 15th overall pick will sign a deal worth roughly $15 million with $8.4 million guaranteed while the No. 40 selection will sign a $7 million deal with $3.2 million guaranteed, per spotrac.

Ouch.

19. Tennessee Titans — Jachai Polite, EDGE, Florida (Photo: John Raoux, AP)

 

While job interviews are important, it's easy to imagine an unprepared 20-year-old struggling through his first round of them - especially ones as rigorous as those taking place at the combine. While measurements are important, so is the game film and the production a player puts together on the football field. Perhaps the bust label will prove prescient. Perhaps Polite will flunk in the NFL, just as he has failed during the pre-draft process.

But here's hoping that he serves as a caveat for those that put too much stock into the combine, into the 40-yard dash and into everything silly about the pre-draft process, which has become overemphasized largely as a promotional effort by the NFL. The league never wants you to stop thinking about football, so they promote the heck out of the combine. Polite is a gifted football player, and hopefully he puts up 16 sacks in 2019 to prove that his first impression was his worst impression and that there's more to him than he presented in Indianapolis and at this pro day.

 

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2 minutes ago, Integrity28 said:

The picks we're making outside the top 10 won't be on the team in 2 seasons, as per the usual.

Round 3 has a 35% success rate in terms of the player picked turning into a contributor much less a starter. 

Keep bangin' that drum.

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Just now, Lizard King said:

not your fault for being excited. 

but it is your fault for absurdly acting as if the book has been written on Q.

holy crap some of you are legit bonkers.

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1 hour ago, Beerfish said:

Have you ever been even close to right about any player at all?

I mean you loved 9/10's of all Mac picks.

It is legit tough to be as wrong as often and as thoroughly as you are regarding players.

Q will be stud.  Period.

continue the circle jerk of hate while you can..  I'm sure next year when he's lighting it up you'll disappear.