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4 minutes ago, Paradis said:

If it seems that way pal, it's because it HAS been that bad.

  • playoff drought since 2010
  • Geno Smith
  • Hackenberg
  • 6 early picks on DTs in 9 drafts
  • 14 safeties
  • the worst carry over roster
  • no WR taken in the 1st since 2001
  • 2 WRs taken in round 2. Hill & Smith
  • no playmakers, have to buy them all; Matt Forte, Crowell, Decker, etc etc 
  • the worst draft record
  • Ardarius Steward
  • the worst draft record

If you're finished being a self-righteous big bird, maybe you can walk me through why I'M THE PROBLEM

Didn't say you were the problem,  just a Sad Sack.  Feel better now?  Talk to me in December.  Giving me a history lesson that dates back to 2010 doesn't do much for your case.  I don't like the playoff drought any more than you do.  Difference is, I don't sit around crying about it.

Geno Smith and Hackensuck were second round draft picks. How many first round draft picks have been burned league wide on quarterback busts in the last ten years?  How many by just the Broncos alone?  Do we have a quarterback now?  You bet we do.  But focus on that, ok?

Six early picks on DT's in 9 drafts?  You're criticizing the current regime here aren't you?  Maccagnan has picked two.  Shepard last year and Quinnen Williams this year.  Williams will be a star.  So at worst, that's one out of two.  Check around the league, ie. the 49ers for one, That's not horrendous. As for the other three, Wilkerson was a pro bowler as was Sheldon Richardson.  Hardly busts, more a problem with personality than playing potential.  Both are still in the league.  Kendrick Ellis was a bust.  Anyway, that's five, and what they have to do with the current regime, beyond Williams and Shepard is beyond me.

14 safeties?  I don't know where you got that one from.  Maccagnan has drafted two.  One is a pro bowler, his name escapes me Presmal something or other.  The other Marcus Maye is very talented, albeit hurt last year.  In my opinion he will turn out to be a very good player.  Time will tell.

The wide receivers drafted in the first round have been historically poor.  You can look it up.  How many went in the first round this year? I won't defend the picks of Stewart, Smith or Hansen.  Didn't like them then, don't like them now.

The worst draft record you mentioned twice.  You must like that one.  As for buying playmakers, I don't have a problem with that.  If you have them on your team, what difference does it make how they got there.

Now that history class is over how about the current roster.  Sam Darnold, Jamaal Adams, Marcus Maye, Quinnen Williams, Chris Herndon, Robbie Anderson, Jordan Jenkins, LeVeon Bell, CJ Moseley, Jamison Crowder, Henry Anderson, Kelechi Osmele, and others are all here because of the current regime. Why not focus on this class of players instead of wallowing in the past. That's what I chose to do.  There's nothing self-righteous about it.  The self righteous ones are those who butt fumble anyone who doesn't ascribe to their position.  That's not me.  That's you.

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2 minutes ago, bealeb319 said:

Because you know what players gase and Williams want?

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No and you know the ones they don't want?  

Get real todays selections suck when there were better players available that filled glaring needs. 

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4 minutes ago, joenamathwouldn'tcry said:

Didn't say you were the problem,  just a Sad Sack.  Feel better now?  Talk to me in December.  Giving me a history lesson that dates back to 2010 doesn't do much for your case.  I don't like the playoff drought any more than you do.  Difference is, I don't sit around crying about it.

Geno Smith and Hackensuck were second round draft picks. How many first round draft picks have been burned league wide on quarterback busts in the last ten years?  How many by just the Broncos alone?  Do we have a quarterback now?  You bet we do.  But focus on that, ok?

Six early picks on DT's in 9 drafts?  You're criticizing the current regime here aren't you?  Maccagnan has picked two.  Shepard last year and Quinnen Williams this year.  Williams will be a star.  So at worst, that's one out of two.  Check around the league, ie. the 49ers for one, That's not horrendous. As for the other three, Wilkerson was a pro bowler as was Sheldon Richardson.  Hardly busts, more a problem with personality than playing potential.  Both are still in the league.  Kendrick Ellis was a bust.  Anyway, that's five, and what they have to do with the current regime, beyond Williams and Shepard is beyond me.

14 safeties?  I don't know where you got that one from.  Maccagnan has drafted two.  One is a pro bowler, his name escapes me Presmal something or other.  The other Marcus Maye is very talented, albeit hurt last year.  In my opinion he will turn out to be a very good player.  Time will tell.

The wide receivers drafted in the first round have been historically poor.  You can look it up.  How many went in the first round this year? I won't defend the picks of Stewart, Smith or Hansen.  Didn't like them then, don't like them now.

The worst draft record you mentioned twice.  You must like that one.  As for buying playmakers, I don't have a problem with that.  If you have them on your team, what difference does it make how they got there.

Now that history class is over how about the current roster.  Sam Darnold, Jamaal Adams, Marcus Maye, Quinnen Williams, Chris Herndon, Robbie Anderson, Jordan Jenkins, LeVeon Bell, CJ Moseley, Jamison Crowder, Henry Anderson, Kelechi Osmele, and others are all here because of the current regime. Why not focus on this class of players instead of wallowing in the past. That's what I chose to do.  There's nothing self-righteous about it.  The self righteous ones are those who butt fumble anyone who doesn't ascribe to their position.  That's not me.  That's you.

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9 minutes ago, bealeb319 said:

All the picks after the third round are jag prospects always. Sometimes a team gets lucky but not often. 
 

Of all the things I’ve seen and read today, this is somehow the stupidest. 

You and Macc. BFFs

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1 hour ago, joenamathwouldn'tcry said:

Jets draft picks 2019:

1]  Quinnen Williams, physical, tough football player

2]  Jachai Polite, physical, tough football player

3]  Chuma Edoga, physical, tough football player

4]  Trevon Wesco, physical, tough football player

5]  Blake Cashman, physical, tough football player

notice a trend here.  That's what we've needed.  The "combine freaks" can carry on.  I want football players.

+1

It's amazing that the Jets have picked players who all play the same sport that is both tough and physical.

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Just now, Paradis said:

Of all the things I’ve seen and read today, this is somehow the stupidest. 

You and Macc. BFFs

Agree 

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1 hour ago, Barry McCockinner said:
Weaknesses
  • Durability flags are beet red
  • Has played in just five games over last two years
  • Had season-ending surgery on same knee in back-to-back years

 

wtf is this? seems like he could have been had as an UDFA

I guess Macc wanted to follow in Idzik's footsteps and draft his own Dexter McDougle?

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No and you know the ones they don't want?  
Get real todays selections suck when there were better players available that filled glaring needs. 
I think the tight end is simmilar to the one gase said he wanted. Idk about the others but like you I have no real clue as to what gase and Williams want in their players

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Bellamy is a special teams player, he doesn't really play offense much at all. He's basically an older Peake. They are pretty much the same player.

I’m not going to pretend that he is an offensive star but he is much more involved with Offense than Peake is plus we have no idea on how Gase plans to use him. I don’t know what happened last year but in 2017 he had 376 yards on 46 targets. That’s a little different than the 25 yards Peake has put up the last 2 seasons.


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Just now, Spoot-Face said:

I guess Macc wanted to follow in Idzik's footsteps and draft his own Dexter McDougle?

Yeah that's the only pick I have a problem with for Macc

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1 hour ago, Integrity28 said:

 

Perfect.

Yeah, but without those injuries he would've went in the 2nd where we would've missed him, and we got him in the sixth!!!!!!

#AnotherMaccValuePick

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1 minute ago, bealeb319 said:

I think the tight end is simmilar to the one gase said he wanted. Idk about the others but like you I have no real clue as to what gase and Williams want in their players

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Do you?  You act as if you are a  spokesman/woman for the team all of a sudden. 

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4 minutes ago, Integrity28 said:

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As usual, Snarky and stupid.  At least you're consistent.  I bet you loved Don Rickles,  immature, low brow and shallow.  You remind me of him.  Except you have more hair.

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21 minutes ago, joenamathwouldn'tcry said:

Didn't say you were the problem,  just a Sad Sack.  Feel better now?  Talk to me in December.  Giving me a history lesson that dates back to 2010 doesn't do much for your case.  I don't like the playoff drought any more than you do.  Difference is, I don't sit around crying about it.

Geno Smith and Hackensuck were second round draft picks. How many first round draft picks have been burned league wide on quarterback busts in the last ten years?  How many by just the Broncos alone?  Do we have a quarterback now?  You bet we do.  But focus on that, ok?

Six early picks on DT's in 9 drafts?  You're criticizing the current regime here aren't you?  Maccagnan has picked two.  Shepard last year and Quinnen Williams this year.  Williams will be a star.  So at worst, that's one out of two.  Check around the league, ie. the 49ers for one, That's not horrendous. As for the other three, Wilkerson was a pro bowler as was Sheldon Richardson.  Hardly busts, more a problem with personality than playing potential.  Both are still in the league.  Kendrick Ellis was a bust.  Anyway, that's five, and what they have to do with the current regime, beyond Williams and Shepard is beyond me.

14 safeties?  I don't know where you got that one from.  Maccagnan has drafted two.  One is a pro bowler, his name escapes me Presmal something or other.  The other Marcus Maye is very talented, albeit hurt last year.  In my opinion he will turn out to be a very good player.  Time will tell.

The wide receivers drafted in the first round have been historically poor.  You can look it up.  How many went in the first round this year? I won't defend the picks of Stewart, Smith or Hansen.  Didn't like them then, don't like them now.

The worst draft record you mentioned twice.  You must like that one.  As for buying playmakers, I don't have a problem with that.  If you have them on your team, what difference does it make how they got there.

Now that history class is over how about the current roster.  Sam Darnold, Jamaal Adams, Marcus Maye, Quinnen Williams, Chris Herndon, Robbie Anderson, Jordan Jenkins, LeVeon Bell, CJ Moseley, Jamison Crowder, Henry Anderson, Kelechi Osmele, and others are all here because of the current regime. Why not focus on this class of players instead of wallowing in the past. That's what I chose to do.  There's nothing self-righteous about it.  The self righteous ones are those who butt fumble anyone who doesn't ascribe to their position.  That's not me.  That's you.

It must be nice to live in your own private Idaho.... Selectively choosing your narratives. By the way, you forgot Leonard. That's 3 DTs under his watch.. in teh early rounds.

that rant was addressing the last 10+ years of ineptitude. That's how trauma works. It compounds. Join me some day. I'm married with children. And i cheer for the Jets. 

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2 minutes ago, Paradis said:

It must be nice to live in your own private Idaho.... where you pick and chose which narratives you'll be honoring with your recognition.

By the way, you forgot Leonard. That's 3 DTs under his watch.. in teh early rounds. Double that if you want to include late sh*t... 

If you didn't get the memo, that rant was addressing the last 10+ years of ineptitude. That's how trauma works. It compounds. Join me some day. I'm married with children. And i cheer for the Jets. 

I also am married with children.  And I've been rooting for the Jets for over 50 years.  I also am a Met, Knick, and Ranger fan, so don't tell me about trauma.    I didn't pick and choose anything.  You made the list. As for the rant, why was the magical 10year mark chosen.  Why not go back to the Super Bowl season.  After that you could make yourself good and miserable.

The point of the matter is this.  We are living in the here and now. That is where I choose to live, not some "private Idaho".  That's for the B 52's not me.   In the here and now, the future looks a hell of a lot better than when Toilet Bowles and Co. were here. Problem is that you and the "Chicken Little" brigade act like we have no right to feel that way.  We're not blind or "fanboys".  We're just not choosing to be miserable.  Life  is too short.  Real Fans don't choose their teams based on a winning percentage.  Obviously you know that.  In the meantime, get well soon.

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31 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said:

Yeah that's the only pick I have a problem with for Macc

Oh, well that's good to know.

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OT, was hoping Mr. Irrelevant would be a Trojan, for once.

Almost right, Caleb was on the USC team for a year when his dad was coaching for us, left for UCLA because we didn’t have a scholarship to give him, they offered him a scholarship.

Significant because Mr. Irrelevant was established by a Trojan alum and booster.

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It's all good guys. Sam Darnold is gonna cover up any holes on this roster and make JAGS look better. We good. 

 

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2 hours ago, Integrity28 said:

 

Perfect.

He’s gotta be doing this on purpose, no?  I mean, at this point he has to be ******* with us...

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7 minutes ago, HelenOfTroy said:

OT, was hoping Mr. Irrelevant would be a Trojan, for once.

Almost right, Caleb was on the USC team for a year when his dad was coaching for us, left for UCLA because we didn’t have a scholarship to give him, they offered him a scholarship.

Significant because Mr. Irrelevant was established by a Trojan alum and booster.

And Sanchez helped keep that alive with the Jets.😀

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9 minutes ago, section314 said:

And Sanchez helped keep that alive with the Jets.😀

Hey, we could have told you!

By the way, how many times did the Jets play in a division championships before Mark? 😉

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This had the feel of the Idzik draft imo.  Hope I’m wrong.

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6 hours ago, RobR said:

Meh he's not that good. I'm not upset at missing out on him.

Conversely we got an ILB with two surgeries in the recent past. 

He's also much better than you are trying to make him out to be. He's a quality Center and will be a starter in the league. 

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