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I'd like to see not necessarily in order - Rodney Harrison (Rb - OKL) , Hakeem Butler(Wr - ISU) , David Sills(Wr - WVU) , Chase Hansen(OLB - Utah) , Savion Smith (CB - ALA) , Isiah Johnson(CB - Hou) , Chidi Okeke(OT ) 

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I hope we can trade Lee for a 4th rounder (no idea if that's realistic).  The Jets need to get some protection for Sam.  Our WRs are not great but we can probably get through another year with them, knowing that we added Le'veon, who is a great receiving RB.   I really think the Jet offense is going to be similar to Seattle's last year.  In other words, our identity is going be as a running team (and Darnold's role will be similar to Sanchez's role in his 2nd year).  Everything will likely run through Bell.  I bet we draft a RB today to split some of his workload.  

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You know they are probably going to trade that 4th rounder. Macc has too stock up on his 5,6,and 7 round "finds".

If they don't I'm thinking it's going to be a CB. If Macc made 2 picks in a row for the offense I might sh*t a brick.

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5 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

I hope we can trade Lee for a 4th rounder (no idea if that's realistic).  The Jets need to get some protection for Sam.  Our WRs are not great but we can probably get through another year with them, knowing that we added Le'veon, who is a great receiving RB.   I really think the Jet offense is going to be similar to Seattle's last year.  In other words, our identity is going be as a running team (and Darnold's role will be similar to Sanchez's role in his 2nd year).  Everything will likely run through Bell.  I bet we draft a RB today to split some of his workload.  

I think its WR- simply based on there being great value and there being a 5th/6th spot for a rookie WR on the roster without having to cut a starter of put a rookie on PS.

Other likely scenario is a C/OG or a trade getting us a veteran C/G. I keep thinking Michael Jordan, the MASSIVE C/G out of Ohio state. 

 

TE is a possibility but unlikely. The Jets have a legit starter in Herndon and lots of depth (Tomlinson, Leggett, Brown, Sterling). They would really have to like someone and I actually don't see the value at this point so I see it as an unlikely pick.

RB- who knows, they brought in a lot of RBs and Macc loves taking RBs late. However, they have Bell, McGuire, Montgomery, and Cannon. Not stellar depth, but you would imagine they carry 3. McGuire is a solid change of pace back who can catch the ball and Montgomery they just signed- here's a swiss army knife type of guy who can play WR and return. I kind of see those 3 as the guys that make it on the roster, with Cannon odd man out. Drafting a RB in the 4th to add to that competition- I don't really see that happening. Again, they would really have to like a guy.

CB- unlikely. Again, the Jets have 3 starters penciled in and talented young developmental depth rounding out the top 6 (Nickerson, Jones, Robinson). Adding another CB in Rd. 4 to add to that competition, knowing you will have to cut one of them does not make sense to me.   

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Both teams ahead of us have already picked a WR (SF have picked two). So chances are we'll have our pick of the WR crop (trades notwithstanding).

While position-wise I was hoping for another OL, looking at the players left I want to see us grab one of these WRs.

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1 hour ago, jetstream23 said:

Knowing the Jets I think they’d go with Love over a WR. 

Are you implying Mac is getting Love??:wacko:

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53 minutes ago, PepPep said:

I really disagree with this narrative. Might be a huge need down the road but not this year. Assuming they carry 6 CBs into the season:

Tru, Roberts, Poole (all locked down financially- two were just signed)...Nickerson- young backup slot CB they took last year, looked good whenever he got the chance to play. Jones- super talented developmental outside CB, looked good when he go the chance to play. Robinson- another young and super talented outside CB who played well when given the opportunity last year (was able to stay healthy too- which was an issue for him). I think the Jets like where they are at with their CBs. It would be one thing if they saw a greedy Williams or Murphy slip into the 3rd round and just could not pass up on the value. But at this point, I don't see them going after a CB, nor should they. 

As most have said, OG/C or TE is possible but the value is really at the WR position, so I think they will go that route. 

Remember when we Carrie dlike 5 rbs into the season good times

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7 minutes ago, BornJetsFan1983 said:

Remember when we Carrie dlike 5 rbs into the season good times

Remember when we carried 4 QBs: Fitz ,Geno, Petty and Hack? 

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I think if you can take Love, do it. Otherwise trade back a little and add some more D3 picks. Stay in top half of 4th round, as there is plenty of talent still on the board.

Pipedreams of instant starters at this point are dumb, best to take more swings. Also trade Darrin Lee for something here... maybe another teams veteran center?

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15 minutes ago, PepPep said:

Remember when we carried 4 QBs: Fitz ,Geno, Petty and Hack? 

I only see 1 QB on that list. ;-) 

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A few guys I still like in round 4...

  • Mitch Hyatt, T, Clemson
  • Max Crosby, DE/OLB, Eastern Illinois.  Watched the Army game and this guy was all over the place.  He's a poor man's Chase Winovich without the long hair.
  • At WR I like Emanuel Hall from Missouri and Anthony Johnson from Buffalo.  Johnson reminds me of Jerricho Cotchery in that he's not a burner but runs his routes well, finds open spots and catches the ball.  I think Cotchery was taken in the fourth round.
  • Kris Boyd, CB, Texas

In round 7...

  • Anyone on the list above
  • Chidi Okeke, T, Tennesse State
  • Hjalte Froholdt, G, Arkansas

I wouldn't mind Mac pulling off another steal for a starter in round 7 like he did last year.

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I know WR and CB are where the value meets the need here, but I keep circling back to Michael Jordan.  We just missed on an interior OL last round (O'Conner) and I would love to get a guy who could actually upgrade the depth right now and maybe slot in to start soon.  This looks like the best on the board and doesn't seem to be a reach here.

Butler wouldn't bum me out at all, but I feel like you can always pick up a WR2 kind of guy much easier than a solid OL.  Think back over the past decade when it seemed like every season we were adding Edwards, or Holmes, or Burress, or Decker, or Marshall.  How many good OL have we added in that time?

I think if I was choosing, Jordan's my guy.

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3 hours ago, PepPep said:

The Jets have the 3rd pick in the 4th round and there are 3 guys still on the board that they can't go wrong with, both from a need and value perspective. 

1. K. Harmon- WR

2. Hakeem Butler- WR

3. Julian Love- CB

These are names that have been tossed around as prospects for the Jets and most Jet fans would have never expected any of them to be there sitting in Rd. 4.  The Jets need to grab one of these guys and one of them will definitely be there if they do not trade down.   

Are there any other prospects on your radar? 

*Sidenote: Although probably unpopular amongst Jet fans, I would not mind trading the 4th round pick for a legit veteran starting C.  

I Agree 100%   Put also Keelan Doss, Emanuel Hall and Stanley Morgan. 

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Michael Jordan. No brainer. Our OL needs youth. KId can play center for a year or two and then go to a guard spot.

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2 hours ago, 56mehl56 said:

I'd like to see not necessarily in order - Rodney Harrison (Rb - OKL) , Hakeem Butler(Wr - ISU) , David Sills(Wr - WVU) , Chase Hansen(OLB - Utah) , Savion Smith (CB - ALA) , Isiah Johnson(CB - Hou) , Chidi Okeke(OT ) 

Anderson?

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3 hours ago, PepPep said:

The Jets have the 3rd pick in the 4th round and there are 3 guys still on the board that they can't go wrong with, both from a need and value perspective. 

1. K. Harmon- WR

2. Hakeem Butler- WR

3. Julian Love- CB

These are names that have been tossed around as prospects for the Jets and most Jet fans would have never expected any of them to be there sitting in Rd. 4.  The Jets need to grab one of these guys and one of them will definitely be there if they do not trade down.   

Are there any other prospects on your radar? 

*Sidenote: Although probably unpopular amongst Jet fans, I would not mind trading the 4th round pick for a legit veteran starting C.  

Jazz Ferguson >>>>> Butler & Harmon.

We need a split end. He is our guy and a better athlete than those two.

 

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21 minutes ago, Tony The Wiz said:

I Agree 100%   Put also Keelan Doss, Emanuel Hall and Stanley Morgan. 

I think Stanley Morgan (or is it Sachs Goldman?) is gone.  I would love to get him though.

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16 minutes ago, #90 said:

Michael Jordan. No brainer. Our OL needs youth. KId can play center for a year or two and then go to a guard spot.

Not sure you can call Michael Jordan a no-brainer with Butler and K.Harmon still on the board.

I like Jordan and would not mind the pick. But I'm not sure he has any more potential to be a starting C/OG than Butler or Harmon have to be impact WRs that can contribute right away, especially Butler as a Red Zone target or #2 across from Anderson with Enunwa as a split end and Crowder in the slot.  

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best WRs available 

  • Keelan Doss
  • Jazz Ferguson
  • Anthony Johnson
  • Hakeem Butler
  • Kelvin Harmon

RBs

  • Dexter Williams
  • Wes Hills
  • Rodney Anderson
  • Benny Snell
  • Jordan Scarlett
  • James Williams

TEs

  • Keenan Brown
  • Donald Parham

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23 minutes ago, nycdan said:

I know WR and CB are where the value meets the need here, but I keep circling back to Michael Jordan.  We just missed on an interior OL last round (O'Conner) and I would love to get a guy who could actually upgrade the depth right now and maybe slot in to start soon.  This looks like the best on the board and doesn't seem to be a reach here.

Butler wouldn't bum me out at all, but I feel like you can always pick up a WR2 kind of guy much easier than a solid OL.  Think back over the past decade when it seemed like every season we were adding Edwards, or Holmes, or Burress, or Decker, or Marshall.  How many good OL have we added in that time?

I think if I was choosing, Jordan's my guy.

 

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Michael Jordan please. 

Recent center only going to get better, could be a day 1 starter and our line is basically done. 

Wouldnt sneeze at the WRs but I really want that line solidified. 

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6 minutes ago, Paradis said:

Jazz Ferguson >>>>> Butler & Harmon.

We need a split end. He is our guy and a better athlete than those two.

 

I like Ferguson a lot. Very similar to Butler. Not quite the same type of player that Harmon is. Not sure if he is "better" than either of them. But I would not be upset of they took him. However, if you are talking about a split end that's pretty much Enunwa does best. So I'm not sure that we need a split end. We actually 'need' a guy that can play across from Anderson, with Enunwa as a split end, Herndon as a TE, Crowder in the slot and Bell in the flat. 

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4 minutes ago, PepPep said:

Not sure you can call Michael Jordan a no-brainer with Butler and K.Harmon still on the board.

I like Jordan and would not mind the pick. But I'm not sure he has any more potential to be a starting C/OG than Butler or Harmon have to be impact WRs that can contribute right away, especially Butler as a Red Zone target or #2 across from Anderson with Enunwa as a split end and Crowder in the slot.  

Agreed, but I look back over the last decade and there are always good WRs available via FA or trade.  Just look at our list of pickups including Edwards, Holmes, Decker, Marshall, Burress just to name a few.  On the other hand, good OL who can start don't seem to be nearly as common.  Those you really need to draft.  So given the choice of roughly equally promising WR or interior OL, I think I'd prefer the OL.  If Butler is *much* better of a prospect then I respect that, but does he start over Robby, Quincy and Crowder?  I'm also interested to see if Burnett develops.  We could use more talent at WR for sure, but it's a good debate for the moment.

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3 hours ago, PepPep said:

The Jets have the 3rd pick in the 4th round and there are 3 guys still on the board that they can't go wrong with, both from a need and value perspective. 

1. K. Harmon- WR

2. Hakeem Butler- WR

3. Julian Love- CB

These are names that have been tossed around as prospects for the Jets and most Jet fans would have never expected any of them to be there sitting in Rd. 4.  The Jets need to grab one of these guys and one of them will definitely be there if they do not trade down.   

Are there any other prospects on your radar? 

*Sidenote: Although probably unpopular amongst Jet fans, I would not mind trading the 4th round pick for a legit veteran starting C.  

I like 2 out of those 3. LOL.

 

#HelpSam 

 

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2 minutes ago, PepPep said:

I like Ferguson a lot. Very similar to Butler. Not quite the same type of player that Harmon is. Not sure if he is "better" than either of them. But I would not be upset of they took him. However, if you are talking about a split end that's pretty much Enunwa does best. So I'm not sure that we need a split end. We actually 'need' a guy that can play across from Anderson, with Enunwa as a split end, Herndon as a TE, Crowder in the slot and Bell in the flat. 

Can Burnett play that spot and does he have the potential to be a starter at it?

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Forget center

The value isn’t there. Sign a cheap vet like Wisniewski or Sullivan after the draft to compete with Harrison.

There are 3 wideouts with legit #2 potential still on the board (Butler, Ridley, Harmon). Take one of them.

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5 minutes ago, Paradis said:

best WRs available 

  • Keelan Doss
  • Jazz Ferguson
  • Anthony Johnson
  • Hakeem Butler
  • Kelvin Harmon

RBs

  • Dexter Williams
  • Wes Hills
  • Rodney Anderson
  • Benny Snell
  • Jordan Scarlett
  • James Williams

TEs

  • Keenan Brown
  • Donald Parham

What say you? Can we can afford to trade down to mid 4th and pick up a 5th and 6th?

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I think the 4th round pick needs to be a WR - I would be happy with ANY WR, but would prefer, Butler, Ridley, Harmon in that order. 

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12 minutes ago, PepPep said:

I like Ferguson a lot. Very similar to Butler. Not quite the same type of player that Harmon is. Not sure if he is "better" than either of them. But I would not be upset of they took him. However, if you are talking about a split end that's pretty much Enunwa does best. So I'm not sure that we need a split end. We actually 'need' a guy that can play across from Anderson, with Enunwa as a split end, Herndon as a TE, Crowder in the slot and Bell in the flat. 

I respectfully disagree about Enunwa... you couldn't draw up a better profile for a Z (flanker).... It's where he should be. Anderson right now is our deep threat specialist, but a poor full time oustide WR IMO

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14 minutes ago, nycdan said:

Can Burnett play that spot and does he have the potential to be a starter at it?

I think Burnett will play his way into a full time role personally. I like him better than crowder at slot

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44 minutes ago, #90 said:

Michael Jordan. No brainer. Our OL needs youth. KId can play center for a year or two and then go to a guard spot.

 

MJ Shrug.JPG

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45 minutes ago, #90 said:

Michael Jordan. No brainer. Our OL needs youth. KId can play center for a year or two and then go to a guard spot.

 

 

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