Eaton Beaver Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 4 hours ago, ECURB said: That's why I left the total too... Pats sure seem to whiff on a lot of guys... Maybe it is just a HOF QB covering up their bad drafting a luxury the JETS have not had. Hey,,you gotta love a guy that up votes all of his own posts...lol... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECURB Posted April 28, 2019 Author Share Posted April 28, 2019 Just now, joewilly12 said: You initially picked NE now you are backtracking. Im no millennial I've seen more failed NY Jets football in my lifetime than I hope you ever see. You are acting like a millennial. I can pick another fact...but I would rather you chip in instead of just pouring out your feelings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 1 minute ago, ECURB said: You are acting like a millennial. I can pick another fact...but I would rather you chip in instead of just pouring out your feelings. No feelings you just cant handle the truth. They are not my feelings they are the truth. We have been so bad because of the poor drafting over the years I don't care how many players are still on the roster. How many #1 picks have we blown who should be helping this team win in 2019. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 28 minutes ago, Bowles Movement said: Ok if this is your thesis then why dont the Pats who we feel are a smart well run organization trade up for less picks that have higher quality? They actually do the converse- they trade down and accumulate more picks “that cant possibly make their already talented team”. So why do they do something so stupid and contrary?? You quoted “that can’t possibly make their already talented team,” indicating someone actually said that. Which, is untrue. The rest of your post is nonsense too, but the fake quote stands out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsplayer21 Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 10 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: So say w wind up with the 20th pick in the NFL draft we will get one of the top WR's or OL? He will only draft a OL If “ bpa “ applies. Which is why he hardly ever drafts them. He will laugh at the gm who picks a O tackle at 14, that Mac had ranked 28th on his little bpa chart ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECURB Posted April 28, 2019 Author Share Posted April 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, Eaton Beaver said: Hey,,you gotta love a guy that up votes all of his own posts...lol... I'm all about it. Love people who look into the post reactions that much. ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 1 minute ago, Jetsplayer21 said: He will only draft a OL If “ bpa “ applies. Which is why he hardly ever drafts them. He will laugh at the gm who picks a O tackle at 14, that Mac had ranked 28th on his little bpa chart ? Those 4-5 good OL you mentioned might be long gone by 20. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECURB Posted April 28, 2019 Author Share Posted April 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: No feelings you just cant handle the truth. They are not my feelings they are the truth. We have been so bad because of the poor drafting over the years I don't care how many players are still on the roster. How many #1 picks have we blown who should be helping this team win in 2019. How many #1 picks does every team blow? You are giving strictly feelings. You have created your own little world to live in. I am here to challenge you to some facts. If you aren't up for it... I understand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenFish Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 This methodology seems flawed. It’s a lot harder for a drafted player to make the Pats roster at this point. Also, the Pats didn’t have 1st or 2nd round picks in 2017 and didnt have a 1st rounder in 2016. Those are the players likely to stick around. But, during that span, the Pats didn’t draft well. The biggest issue with Macc is positional resource allocation. He’s spending high draft capital on iDL, S, LB. I love Adams, but hitting on an edge or a CB means a lot more. Right now, Darnold is his most meaningful selection. Because if he hits big... watch out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, ECURB said: How many #1 picks does every team blow? You are giving strictly feelings. You have created your own little world to live in. I am here to challenge you to some facts. If you aren't up for it... I understand. Do the research no feelings fact. Im not wasting my time with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsplayer21 Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 1 minute ago, joewilly12 said: Those 4-5 good OL you mentioned might be long gone by 20. You mean gms actually reach about for OL because they are so important ?♂️ I sure hope a place kicker is not considered “ best player of the draft “ next yr ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantasy Island Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 Past performance had shielded me from disappointment of a Mac draft. I expected $%^& , and he delivered. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECURB Posted April 28, 2019 Author Share Posted April 28, 2019 Just now, joewilly12 said: Do the research no feelings fact. Im not wasting my time with you. Ok thanks for sharing your feelings. When you want to have a non millennial style discussion with real facts come on back! ✌️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genot Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 14 minutes ago, Jetsplayer21 said: Lol. You seriously can not argue he holds it higher in regard than any other gm in league. Yr in yr out. Five years ! Draft and FA say so. Why Gase flipped on him about not caring about signing Paradis I never said he held it in higher regard than anybody else. Don't believe everything you read. Anderson is still here. How many stories have we read the last week that were total B.S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14 in Green Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 11 minutes ago, Jetsplayer21 said: I assume you didn’t see this chart earlier.. otherwise you would not have came out in defense of macs last on the list who teams who have drafted OLs in early rounds past five years. Yes the OLs he has signed, he has never come close to breaking the bank for a OL, the way he easily does for the D. We are probably the only team in nfl who does not have even 1 OL being close to ranked on the positive side of OL rankings. You defending Mac on the OLine, is pretty pathetic.. Would you say the Steelers have had a good OL the last few seasons? Probably yes. What about Arizona? Pretty bad, right? Where are they both on this list? Why would you use it to make the argument you're trying to make? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 Vernon Gholston DE Ohio State 5 2 30 Dustin Keller TE Purdue 5 5 [32] 2009 5 Mark Sanchez QB USC 7* 5 [33] 2010 29 Kyle Wilson CB Boise State 6* 5 [34] 2011 30 Muhammad Wilkerson DL Temple University 5* 5 [35] 2012 16 Quinton Coples DE North Carolina 4* 4 2013 9 Dee Milliner CB Alabama 3* 3 13 Sheldon Richardson DT Missouri 5* 4 2014 18 Calvin Pryor S Louisville 2* 2 2015 6 Leonard Williams DT USC 4* 4* 2016 20 Darron Lee LB Ohio State 3* 3* 2017 6 Jamal Adams S LSU 2* 2* [36] 2018 3 Sam Darnold QB USC 1* 1* 2019 3 Quinnen Williams Look at the blown #1s who should be helping this team win games in 2019. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 1 minute ago, ECURB said: Ok thanks for sharing your feelings. When you want to have a non millennial style discussion with real facts come on back! ✌️ Im not a millennial and having an intelligent conversation with you is impossible. See yaaaaa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genot Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 4 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Those 4-5 good OL you mentioned might be long gone by 20. LT, will be a clear and obvious need next year. We'll get one. Even if we have to trade up. Im just guessing, nut that's the way i could see it going Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 Just now, genot said: LT, will be a clear and obvious need next year. We'll get one. Even if we have to trade up. Im just guessing, nut that's the way i could see it going Didn't we just draft one with the #3 pick? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 JN has reached the point where Joe's willy is the voice of reason in a thread. God help us all 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 1 minute ago, CTM said: JN has reached the point where Joe's willy is the voice of reason in a thread. God help us all Glad you are finally paying attention, took you long enough. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsplayer21 Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 32 minutes ago, Maxman said: We have to accept it because the owner didn't fire him. I would have. Sent from my XT1650 using JetNation.com mobile app Johnsons are historically slow to fire gms, hcs. Izdik, Rex, Bowles, and now mac. If the OL doesn’t hold up he’s a goner next Jan. Gase will say” either me or him” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genot Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Didn't we just draft one with the #3 pick? Joe Willy, Cmon. I said LT, not DT. Are you sure your not off the wagon again.........................Only kidding!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joenamathwouldn'tcry Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 Just now, Jetsplayer21 said: You either lack basic intelligence, or you are just a blind faith fan boy, if you can not see the severe neglect of Mac on the OL You write with the skill, and articulate on the level of a ten year old "C" student, yet you question my intelligence. Rich. If you followed my posts you would know that I am one who has often criticized the play of the line and it's participants. I unlike you, offer alternative solutions, including prospective replacements and solutions, while you rant against the GM. Never do you consider the possible impact that coaching, scheme, play calling and other factors, contribute to the effectiveness and play of the unit. That must be above your level of comprehension. Instead you revert to your tried and true strategy of "Blame Macc". That and your good old standby, calling people "Fan Boy". You then sprinkle in a couple of your asinine emoji's and you're good to go. All of this qualifies you as a good fan? No, it qualifies you as a laughing stock. I'm done. I don't like to argue with 10 year- olds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BROOKLYN JET Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 16 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: I don't have feelings. Straight up lust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14 in Green Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 5 minutes ago, CTM said: JN has reached the point where Joe's willy is the voice of reason in a thread. God help us all I just can't imagine that becoming a thing. I'm betting he'll tire out quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, genot said: Joe Willy, Cmon. I said LT, not DT. Are you sure your not off the wagon again.........................Only kidding!!! Chuma Edoga, OT, USC. ESPN touted him as a LT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14 in Green Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 4 minutes ago, genot said: Joe Willy, Cmon. I said LT, not DT. Are you sure your not off the wagon again.........................Only kidding!!! Don't blame joewilly. This is on @CTM. He created this monster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 1 minute ago, 14 in Green said: I just can't imagine that becoming a thing. I'm betting he'll tire out quickly. Says the guy/gal with 2497 posts. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsplayer21 Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 9 minutes ago, genot said: I never said he held it in higher regard than anybody else. Don't believe everything you read. Anderson is still here. How many stories have we read the last week that were total B.S How many stories did we hear that we were “ told “ were bs just like Eli deciding to leave the weekly fan show, 2 days after jones was picked. The obvious rumor was “ he didn’t want to do the show knowing he may not he starter sometime during the year. The giants wanted mike Fran to say that was totally both the reason, and Eli “ just needed a break “ ?. Mac and Gase will play nice in face of media, Rightfully so. They know they would be hassled with questions about it every day if they didn’t put on a fake smiley face.. oh and please find me someone who thinks Mac holds the OL in higher regard than another gm lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genot Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 10 minutes ago, CTM said: JN has reached the point where Joe's willy is the voice of reason in a thread. God help us all You are so right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 You can't draft busts if you don't draft players at all. Thus our GMs oline strategy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsplayer21 Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 1 minute ago, Beerfish said: You can't draft busts if you don't draft players at all. Thus our GMs oline strategy Bingo. His fanboys just can’t see the truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genot Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 Just now, Jetsplayer21 said: How many stories did we hear that we were “ told “ were bs just like Eli deciding to leave the weekly fan show, 2 days after jones was picked. The obvious rumor was “ he didn’t want to do the show knowing he may not he starter sometime during the year. The giants wanted mike Fran to say that was totally both the reason, and Eli “ just needed a break “ ?. Mac and Gase will play nice in face of media, Rightfully so. They know they would be hassled with questions about it every day if they didn’t put on a fake smiley face.. oh and please find me someone who thinks Mac holds the OL in higher regard than another gm lol Please show me the post where i said that. I'm waiting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 1 hour ago, ECURB said: Maybe my facts suck. Yes. Now take a moment to reflect on this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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