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9 hours ago, nyjunc said:

Putting the final week aside since they were out if it in their 3 game losing streak the D allowed 29.7 PPG but yeah mark Sanchez was supposed to lead his O to 30+ PPG to win those games and it was all Mark's fault😂

 

He went 4-4 for a team that started 6-2.

Spin that anyway you want.  

You make a shltload of excuses.  Excuses why Eli won and then flip it into excuses why your girl lost 3 straight in a playoff drive. 

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2 minutes ago, slats said:

I would've giving you the laughing face emoji here, but that counts as positive rep that you do not deserve. 

He never had an extended chance because he didn't deserve one. The Broncos handed them their starting job and he blew it so completely that they actually cut him in the preseason. Signed to start, then cut before the regular season. Think about that. He was awful. Didn't want to put in the work, and it showed. 

The broncos didn't hand him anything, they acquired him as vet insurance. They wanted their young guys to play, when they thought they were ready they moved on.  Why do you guys always make things up?

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3 minutes ago, nyjunc said:

The broncos didn't hand him anything, they acquired him as vet insurance. They wanted their young guys to play, when they thought they were ready they moved on.  Why do you guys always make things up?

LOL, they handed him the job.  Lynch wasnt near ready to play football, is a never was QB.  Siemien won by default when Sanchez had a turnover filled last game in Denver and was dumped. 

You cant make that up

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2 minutes ago, Jet Nut said:

We went 4-4 for a team that started 6-2.

Spin that anyway you want.  

You make a shltload of excuses.  Excuses why Eli won and then flip it into excuses why your girl lost 3 straight in a playoff drive. 

He took over in a game that was 7-7 so with him they were 5-4 and he led the O to almost a TD more per game.  In 5 of his 8 starts he started against teams that would play in the division round and beyond.

In the 3 game losing streak Mark's D allowed 30 PPG, he led O to 22 PPG. In the lowest scoring game he led O to just 14 pts vs Seattle. In Seattle's last 6 regular season games they allowed 7 or fewer in all but the Philly game.

2011 Eli throws 3 ints in week 14 to drop to 7-7, after that the D took over and carried the load.  Where was the D to carry the load for mark?

2010 with the season on the line at GB Eli throws 4 INTs to cost them a playoff spot.

2009 leads them to losing 3 of 4 to miss the playoffs

2012 lost 3 of 4 late to miss the playoffs

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Jet Nut said:

LOL, they handed him the job.  Lynch wasnt near ready to play football, is a never was QB.  Siemien won by default when Sanchez had a turnover filled last game in Denver and was dumped. 

You cant make that up

They did not hand him anything, he was a placeholder.  If either of the young guys showed anything they were getting the job. Remember, siemien started 4-0 and was 8-6 as a starter.

In preseason mark played just 2 games.

20-30, 219 yds, 1 TD, 1 int, 1 fumble, 85.3 rating

Siemien played 3.

27-43, 295 yds, 1 TD, 2 ints, 71.4 rating.

 

 

 

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5 minutes ago, nyjunc said:

He took over in a game that was 7-7 so with him they were 5-4 and he led the O to almost a TD more per game.  In 5 of his 8 starts he started against teams that would play in the division round and beyond.

In the 3 game losing streak Mark's D allowed 30 PPG, he led O to 22 PPG. In the lowest scoring game he led O to just 14 pts vs Seattle. In Seattle's last 6 regular season games they allowed 7 or fewer in all but the Philly game.

2011 Eli throws 3 ints in week 14 to drop to 7-7, after that the D took over and carried the load.  Where was the D to carry the load for mark?

2010 with the season on the line at GB Eli throws 4 INTs to cost them a playoff spot.

2009 leads them to losing 3 of 4 to miss the playoffs

2012 lost 3 of 4 late to miss the playoffs

 

 

Starting QB gets the win, sorry, but those are the rules.  

 

4-4 vs 6-2

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2011 Eli throws 3 ints in week 14 to drop to 7-7, after that the D took over and carried the load.  Where was the D to carry the load for mark?

2010 with the season on the line at GB Eli throws 4 INTs to cost them a playoff spot.

2009 leads them to losing 3 of 4 to miss the playoffs

2012 lost 3 of 4 late to miss the playoffs

Stick on 11', 10', 12' and blow off the wins and MVPs in the SB wins.

Sanchez L's, on the D.  Eli wins, on the D.

Excuses 

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11 minutes ago, nyjunc said:

The broncos didn't hand him anything, they acquired him as vet insurance. They wanted their young guys to play, when they thought they were ready they moved on.  Why do you guys always make things up?

 

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ENGLEWOOD, Co. -- Last December, shortly before the end of his second season as a backup quarterback for the Philadelphia Eagles, Mark Sanchez sent bottles of wine to coaches, front-office employees and other staffers as a token of his appreciation.

Less than three months later, the Eagles sent Sanchez to a place he regards as pro football's champagne lounge.

Upon completing an offseason workout in Southern California on March 11, Sanchez noticed a pair of missed calls from Philly general manager Howie Roseman and figured he'd been released. Instead, upon calling back, the former New York Jets first-round pick and four-year starter received some surprising and exciting news.

"You gave me a bottle of wine for the holidays," Roseman told Sanchez. "You're probably gonna owe me a case of wine for this one."

Roseman then informed Sanchez he'd been traded to the Denver Broncos for a conditional seventh-round pick in the 2017 draft, giving him a golden opportunity to revive his once-promising career -- for the defending Super Bowl champions.

On Thursday, Sanchez completed his first training-camp practice for his third NFL team as the Broncos' nominal No. 1 quarterback, armed with the knowledge that he has the inside track to succeed the legendary Peyton Manning as the main man in the Mile High City. He'll have to fend off challenges from second-year passer Trevor Siemian and 2016 first-round pick Paxton Lynch to earn that honor, but the quarterback once known as Sanchize believes he's the right guy for the job.

Sanchez, who took the Jets to AFC Championship Games in each of his first two seasons, knows this may be his last shot to reestablish himself as a legitimate NFL starter. It's not an endeavor he's taking lightly.

"This is like a gift-wrapped opportunity from heaven," he told me Thursday afternoon. "As soon as it arrived, I told myself, 'Take advantage of things. Assert yourself. Be the guy you know you can be. Win the job. And then go win some games, which is the most important thing of all.' "

Last year, the Broncos won 12 regular-season games while flip-flopping between a well-past-his-prime Manning (now retired) and untested 2012 draft pick Brock Osweiler (who parlayed a seven-game starting stint into a four-year, $72-million free-agent deal with the Houston Texans). Coach Gary Kubiak's surprising switch back to Manning midway through the regular-season finale set the stage for an epic exit in which the NFL's all-time passing yards leader threw for just 141 (with no touchdowns and one interception) in Super Bowl 50 yet still went out a winner.

As dominant as the Denver defense was during a phenomenal playoff run, uncertainty at the sport's marquee position has triggered rampant skepticism about the 2016 Broncos' ability to compete for a repeat title.

"I don't think there's much respect out there," said Denver general manager John Elway, who quarterbacked the franchise to consecutive Super Bowl triumphs in the 1997 and '98 seasons before ending his stellar 16-year playing career. "And a lot of that is [because] when you look at the quarterback position, with the guys that we have, they don't have a lot of (outside) respect, obviously.

"We think a lot more of Mark Sanchezthan maybe the public does. [That's from] watching tape on him, and really watching him in Philly last year, and also since he's been here. If you're in New York, they have a tendency to bring the attention to the negative, rather than the positive. And Mark kind of got caught in that rut. We hope we're right. The great thing about camp starting, finally, is we can stop talking about it and see who's gonna come to the forefront."

In other words: While cynics who focus on the end of his Jets tenure may lampoon him for the infamous Butt Fumble, Sanchez is viewed inside the Broncos' locker room as a savvy field general with a firm grip on his responsibilities.

"The leadership Mark brings is so important," running back C.J. Anderson said. "He's been there, and he can rally us around him. And then there's the experience. This is not a guy whose head is swimming out there. The game has slowed down for him.

"What people don't understand is that if we do our jobs, his job can be that much easier. We understand that we don't have an Andrew Luck or a Ben Roethlisberger, a guy who the ball has to be in his hands 50 times a game -- but there are other ways to win. We can win as a team, and we're gonna take care of business in all three phases to make the quarterback's life that much better."

Elway and Kubiak insist the competition between Sanchez, Siemian (a 2015 seventh-round pick out of Northwestern) and Lynch (for whom the team traded up to snag with the 26th overall selection in April) is wide open, but Sanchez's experience made him the obvious choice to assume the bulk of the first-team reps, at least in the early stages of training camp.

"Mark comes from a background with West Coast verbiage," Kubiak noted Thursday. "The day we (traded for) him we started talking plays, and we just kind of went from there. He's done some really good things in this league. We're gonna surround him with some really good players and give him a chance to succeed. Now, it's up to him."

He'll have to hold off Siemian, who has earned the respect of teammates by displaying accuracy, athleticism and composure, and Lynch, whose obvious passing talent and draft position make him the team's presumptive quarterback of the future -- but, in fairness, the competition could have been stiffer.

Even after acquiring Sanchez, the Broncos continued to explore a trade for former San Francisco 49ers starter Colin Kaepernick, who'd brought that team to within five yards of a potential Super Bowl XLVII victory over the Baltimore Ravens. In early April, Elway met with Kaepernick in an unsuccessful effort to get the quarterback to reduce his salary, something the team considered a prerequisite for a trade.

In the aftermath of the Super Bowl, Kaepernick's departure from the Niners had been considered such a foregone conclusion by Sanchez that he "expected to end up in San Francisco" (to compete with holdover Blaine Gabbert) before that fateful phone call with Roseman.

Once dealt to Denver, Sanchez approached his new gig with an almost maniacal drive, to the point where earlier this month he was able to coax several Broncos receivers into joining him for an early morning workout at USC, his alma mater, before they attended the ESPYs.

"I basically devoted all my (offseason) energy to trying to master the system, getting to know my teammates and getting involved in the community," Sanchez said. "I never want to be in a position 10 or 15 years down the line where I could look back and say, 'Oh man, if I had just done a little more, I could have made it happen ... '

"Especially not this opportunity -- it's a quarterback's dream come true."

Sanchez did allow himself one conspicuous indulgence: Just after the Broncos' offseason program ended in June, he took his mother, Olga, on a trip to Israel.

"It was amazing," Sanchez said. "At one point I got to spend a few hours with the Israeli military, going through some training exercises and even firing weapons. There was a (simulation) where a situation was going down inside a marketplace, and you had to operate under some pretty crazy conditions."

And how was the simulated soldier's aim?

"Pretty good," Sanchez said, smiling. "I was locked in."

Now, on a professional level, it's about to get real.

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Just now, nyjunc said:

They did not hand him anything, he was a placeholder.  If either of the young guys showed anything they were getting the job. Remember, siemien started 4-0 and was 8-6 as a starter.

In preseason mark played just 2 games.

20-30, 219 yds, 1 TD, 1 int, 1 fumble, 85.3 rating

Siemien played 3.

27-43, 295 yds, 1 TD, 2 ints, 71.4 rating.

Handed it to him, he fumbled it just like he fumbled his career after leaving USC.

More stats, from preseason games, where we dont know if the passes were against starters or 4th string grocery workers.  Sanchez was god awful when it counted.  He was dumped, you prefer to try and make the claim that he won the competition.  

You're too predictable.  He was so good they cut him for a backup and a rookie bust who wasnt ready to play.

 

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ENGLEWOOD, Co. -- Last December, shortly before the end of his second season as a backup quarterback for the Philadelphia Eagles, Mark Sanchez sent bottles of wine to coaches, front-office employees and other staffers as a token of his appreciation.

Less than three months later, the Eagles sent Sanchez to a place he regards as pro football's champagne lounge.

Upon completing an offseason workout in Southern California on March 11, Sanchez noticed a pair of missed calls from Philly general manager Howie Roseman and figured he'd been released. Instead, upon calling back, the former New York Jets first-round pick and four-year starter received some surprising and exciting news.

"You gave me a bottle of wine for the holidays," Roseman told Sanchez. "You're probably gonna owe me a case of wine for this one."

Roseman then informed Sanchez he'd been traded to the Denver Broncos for a conditional seventh-round pick in the 2017 draft, giving him a golden opportunity to revive his once-promising career -- for the defending Super Bowl champions.

On Thursday, Sanchez completed his first training-camp practice for his third NFL team as the Broncos' nominal No. 1 quarterback, armed with the knowledge that he has the inside track to succeed the legendary Peyton Manning as the main man in the Mile High City. He'll have to fend off challenges from second-year passer Trevor Siemian and 2016 first-round pick Paxton Lynch to earn that honor, but the quarterback once known as Sanchize believes he's the right guy for the job.

Sanchez, who took the Jets to AFC Championship Games in each of his first two seasons, knows this may be his last shot to reestablish himself as a legitimate NFL starter. It's not an endeavor he's taking lightly.

"This is like a gift-wrapped opportunity from heaven," he told me Thursday afternoon. "As soon as it arrived, I told myself, 'Take advantage of things. Assert yourself. Be the guy you know you can be. Win the job. And then go win some games, which is the most important thing of all.' "

Last year, the Broncos won 12 regular-season games while flip-flopping between a well-past-his-prime Manning (now retired) and untested 2012 draft pick Brock Osweiler (who parlayed a seven-game starting stint into a four-year, $72-million free-agent deal with the Houston Texans). Coach Gary Kubiak's surprising switch back to Manning midway through the regular-season finale set the stage for an epic exit in which the NFL's all-time passing yards leader threw for just 141 (with no touchdowns and one interception) in Super Bowl 50 yet still went out a winner.

As dominant as the Denver defense was during a phenomenal playoff run, uncertainty at the sport's marquee position has triggered rampant skepticism about the 2016 Broncos' ability to compete for a repeat title.

"I don't think there's much respect out there," said Denver general manager John Elway, who quarterbacked the franchise to consecutive Super Bowl triumphs in the 1997 and '98 seasons before ending his stellar 16-year playing career. "And a lot of that is [because] when you look at the quarterback position, with the guys that we have, they don't have a lot of (outside) respect, obviously.

"We think a lot more of Mark Sanchezthan maybe the public does. [That's from] watching tape on him, and really watching him in Philly last year, and also since he's been here. If you're in New York, they have a tendency to bring the attention to the negative, rather than the positive. And Mark kind of got caught in that rut. We hope we're right. The great thing about camp starting, finally, is we can stop talking about it and see who's gonna come to the forefront."

In other words: While cynics who focus on the end of his Jets tenure may lampoon him for the infamous Butt Fumble, Sanchez is viewed inside the Broncos' locker room as a savvy field general with a firm grip on his responsibilities.

"The leadership Mark brings is so important," running back C.J. Anderson said. "He's been there, and he can rally us around him. And then there's the experience. This is not a guy whose head is swimming out there. The game has slowed down for him.

"What people don't understand is that if we do our jobs, his job can be that much easier. We understand that we don't have an Andrew Luck or a Ben Roethlisberger, a guy who the ball has to be in his hands 50 times a game -- but there are other ways to win. We can win as a team, and we're gonna take care of business in all three phases to make the quarterback's life that much better."

Elway and Kubiak insist the competition between Sanchez, Siemian (a 2015 seventh-round pick out of Northwestern) and Lynch (for whom the team traded up to snag with the 26th overall selection in April) is wide open, but Sanchez's experience made him the obvious choice to assume the bulk of the first-team reps, at least in the early stages of training camp.

"Mark comes from a background with West Coast verbiage," Kubiak noted Thursday. "The day we (traded for) him we started talking plays, and we just kind of went from there. He's done some really good things in this league. We're gonna surround him with some really good players and give him a chance to succeed. Now, it's up to him."

He'll have to hold off Siemian, who has earned the respect of teammates by displaying accuracy, athleticism and composure, and Lynch, whose obvious passing talent and draft position make him the team's presumptive quarterback of the future -- but, in fairness, the competition could have been stiffer.

Even after acquiring Sanchez, the Broncos continued to explore a trade for former San Francisco 49ers starter Colin Kaepernick, who'd brought that team to within five yards of a potential Super Bowl XLVII victory over the Baltimore Ravens. In early April, Elway met with Kaepernick in an unsuccessful effort to get the quarterback to reduce his salary, something the team considered a prerequisite for a trade.

In the aftermath of the Super Bowl, Kaepernick's departure from the Niners had been considered such a foregone conclusion by Sanchez that he "expected to end up in San Francisco" (to compete with holdover Blaine Gabbert) before that fateful phone call with Roseman.

Once dealt to Denver, Sanchez approached his new gig with an almost maniacal drive, to the point where earlier this month he was able to coax several Broncos receivers into joining him for an early morning workout at USC, his alma mater, before they attended the ESPYs.

"I basically devoted all my (offseason) energy to trying to master the system, getting to know my teammates and getting involved in the community," Sanchez said. "I never want to be in a position 10 or 15 years down the line where I could look back and say, 'Oh man, if I had just done a little more, I could have made it happen ... '

"Especially not this opportunity -- it's a quarterback's dream come true."

Sanchez did allow himself one conspicuous indulgence: Just after the Broncos' offseason program ended in June, he took his mother, Olga, on a trip to Israel.

"It was amazing," Sanchez said. "At one point I got to spend a few hours with the Israeli military, going through some training exercises and even firing weapons. There was a (simulation) where a situation was going down inside a marketplace, and you had to operate under some pretty crazy conditions."

And how was the simulated soldier's aim?

"Pretty good," Sanchez said, smiling. "I was locked in."

Now, on a professional level, it's about to get real.

Amazing how you didn't bold this paragraph:

"He'll have to hold off Siemian, who has earned the respect of teammates by displaying accuracy, athleticism and composure, and Lynch, whose obvious passing talent and draft position make him the team's presumptive quarterback of the future"

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5 minutes ago, slats said:

Sanchez completed his first training-camp practice for his third NFL team as the Broncos' nominal No. 1 quarterback, armed with the knowledge that he has the inside track to succeed the legendary Peyton Manning as the main man in the Mile High City.

Not true.  LOL

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2 minutes ago, Jet Nut said:

Handed it to him, he fumbled it just like he fumbled his career after leaving USC.

More stats, from preseason games, where we dont know if the passes were against starters or 4th string grocery workers.  Sanchez was god awful when it counted.  He was dumped, you prefer to try and make the claim that he won the competition.  

You're too predictable.  He was so good they cut him for a backup and a rookie bust who wasnt ready to play.

 

Yep, god awful when it counted which is why he's top 10 all time in postseason passer rating

 

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Amazing how you didn't bold this paragraph:

"He'll have to hold off Siemian, who has earned the respect of teammates by displaying accuracy, athleticism and composure, and Lynch, whose obvious passing talent and draft position make him the team's presumptive quarterback of the future"

He was in a position to try to hold him off because he was the presumptive starter. Instead, he lost so spectacularly to the Jets future backup that they cut him outright. 

Denver handed him the starting job, and he butt-fumbled it. 

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Just now, nyjunc said:

Yep, god awful when it counted which is why he's top 10 all time in postseason passer rating

 

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No one, not a single person believes he was the reason behind the Jets success.  He went for the ride, had a handful of memorable plays but went for the ride.  Sorry.  You've pointed to a list as proof of how good he was, a list that has him ahead of Brady.  Proves how pointless and nonsensical stats on their own are.

Sanchez is better than Brady.  Thanks for pointing that out to us 

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1 minute ago, nyjunc said:

Yep, god awful when it counted which is why he's top 10 all time in postseason passer rating

 

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I think you need to start up a separate thread since i'm not sure what Eli eventually cruising into the HOF and Mark Sanchez top draft dud status for his career have to do with Sam Darnold v Daniel Jones.

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1 minute ago, slats said:

He was in a position to try to hold him off because he was the presumptive starter. Instead, he lost so spectacularly to the Jets future backup that they cut him outright. 

Denver handed him the starting job, and he butt-fumbled it. 

They traded a conditional 7th rounder, that should tell you all you need to know about whether they wanted him to start.  He was vet insurance and if either of the other guys showed they were ready they were going to get the job.

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1 minute ago, Jet Nut said:

No one, not a single person believes he was the reason behind the Jets success.  He went for the ride, had a handful of memorable plays but went for the ride.  Sorry.  You've pointed to a list as proof of how good he was, a list that has him ahead of Brady.  Proves how pointless and nonsensical stats on their own are.

Sanchez is better than Brady.  Thanks for pointing that out to us 

He wasn't THE reason just like Eli wasn't THE reason. Both teams were led by their D's, unfortunately the Giants D played great throughout and the Jets D played great until the title games 

 

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Just now, nyjunc said:

Most teams send conditional 7th round picks for guys they expect to start at QB 😂 You his need to see through the fluff

What were the Eagles going to get for Sanchez?  You know, after his celebrated success down the stretch in Philly dragging his 6-2, first place team down the drain with a 4-4 run?

Yet that, your opinion trumps the words that came out of your guys mouth.  Because a beat writer and Sanchez dont know as much as you do.  LOL

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3 minutes ago, nyjunc said:

They traded a conditional 7th rounder, that should tell you all you need to know about whether they wanted him to start.  He was vet insurance and if either of the other guys showed they were ready they were going to get the job.

You live in a very odd alternate reality. 

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10 minutes ago, Jet Nut said:

What were the Eagles going to get for Sanchez?  You know, after his celebrated success down the stretch in Philly dragging his 6-2, first place team down the drain with a 4-4 run?

Yet that, your opinion trumps the words that came out of your guys mouth.  Because a beat writer and Sanchez dont know as much as you do.  LOL

It was a fluff piece after the trade.

He elevated that offense in 2014, in 2015 he failed in his limited opportunity and they traded him after that.  

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You have to give it NYJUNC - he manages to take a thread called "Daniel Jones vs Sam Darnold" and hijacks it twice - first into his anti-Eli agenda and then, just for old times' sake, his Mark Sanchez obsession.

Hats off to you, JUNC. You truly are a master.

 

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11 minutes ago, nyjunc said:

It was a fluff piece after the trade.

He elevated that offense in 2014, in 2015 he failed in his limited opportunity and they traded him after that.  

Elevated that offense and led his team from 1st place, 6-2, playoff lock to 10-6 out of the playoffs team with a 4-4 finish. 

0-2 the following season.  And then was dumped.  Got that

The limited opportunity in Denver.  Like Sanchez cute and wrong for the situation

 

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2 minutes ago, IslandGuy said:

You have to give it NYJUNC - he manages to take a thread called "Daniel Jones vs Sam Darnold" and hijacks it twice - first into his anti-Eli agenda and then, just for old times' sake, his Mark Sanchez obsession.

Hats off to you, JUNC. You truly are a master.

 

Get rid of his hijacking anti Eli or Sanchez was the man posts and he has all of 4 posts on this board.  

 

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3 minutes ago, Jet Nut said:

Get rid of his hijacking anti Eli or Sanchez was the man posts and he has all of 4 posts on this board.  

 

i wasn't on this board back then, but i can only imagine what his posts were like (between 2008-2010) when Sanchez still had hope, Rex was Rex, and the Giants were still a couple years away from Eli winning yet another one. He must've been campaigning for Sanchez into the Hall of Fame like immediately, with Rex's name etched onto the Lombardi.

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40 minutes ago, Jet Nut said:

Elevated that offense and led his team from 1st place, 6-2, playoff lock to 10-6 out of the playoffs team with a 4-4 finish. 

0-2 the following season.  And then was dumped.  Got that

The limited opportunity in Denver.  Like Sanchez cute and wrong for the situation

 

Again, they were tied 7-7 when he came in against Houston so really they were 5-2 without him and 5-4 with him but as I mentioned before they gave the much tougher portion of the schedule in his starts yet still scored almost a TD more per game.  We know mark, like Eli, wasn't great so it's not fair to ask him to win games when the D is allowing 30 a game.

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6 minutes ago, nyjunc said:

Again, they were tied 7-7 when he came in against Houston so really they were 5-2 without him and 5-4 with him but as I mentioned before they gave the much tougher portion of the schedule in his starts yet still scored almost a TD more per game.  We know mark, like Eli, wasn't great so it's not fair to ask him to win games when the D is allowing 30 a game.

Again his record was 4-4.  You can take it up with the rules people and with common sense people.

No matter, 1st place, playoffs a done deal and a nosedive, playoff run ended

Argue all you want.

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Again his record was 4-4.  You can take it up with the rules people and with common sense people.

No matter, 1st place, playoffs a done deal and a nosedive, playoff run ended

Argue all you want.

You can call it 4-4 but 5 of those 8 games were against teams that made the divisional round or better yet he led his O to almost a TD more per game.  It had nothing to do with the D allowing 25+ PPG in his starts including 30 a game they key late 3 game stretch.

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5 minutes ago, nyjunc said:

You can call it 4-4 but 5 of those 8 games were against teams that made the divisional round or better yet he led his O to almost a TD more per game.  It had nothing to do with the D allowing 25+ PPG in his starts including 30 a game they key late 3 game stretch.

4-4

More spinning and whining about the schedule.  And almost a whole TD more per game, means what exactly?  Who comes up with this shlt, what nonsense is next.  Wasnt really 4-4, the 6-2 under Foles is ignored, the D wasnt good enough, Sanchez was better than Foles and the Philly record. 

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Just now, Jet Nut said:

4-4

More spinning and whining about the schedule.  Okie dokie

He can't play defense, he led his O to I believe around 27+ PPG, the D was atrocious the second half including allowing 30 a game in the key 3 game stretch late.  Considering Eli has never won a playoff game when his D allowed more than 20 I think we can cut mark some slack for not winning when his D was allowing 30.

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3 minutes ago, nyjunc said:

He can't play defense, he led his O to I believe around 27+ PPG, the D was atrocious the second half including allowing 30 a game in the key 3 game stretch late.  Considering Eli has never won a playoff game when his D allowed more than 20 I think we can cut mark some slack for not winning when his D was allowing 30.

No he lead his 6-2 team to a 10-6 finish.  4-4 when it counted most.  Spin it anyway you want. 

Sanchez was what he was, a QB who never was as good as the teams he played on.

Period

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2 hours ago, nyjunc said:

Yep, god awful when it counted which is why he's top 10 all time in postseason passer rating

 

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Holy sample size, Batman!

Journeymen Nick Foles and Alex Smith are above Sanchez on this list too, and 13 QB's are ahead of your hero, Tom Brady.  What does all that tell you?  Probably that its a pretty meaningless stat for guys who haven't played many postseason games.

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51 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

 

Holy sample size, Batman!

Journeymen Nick Foles and Alex Smith are above Sanchez on this list too, and 13 QB's are ahead of your hero, Tom Brady.  What does all that tell you?  Probably that its a pretty meaningless stat for guys who haven't played many postseason games.

I responded to someone saying he was god awful when it counted, this stat doesn't make him great just shows he wasn't good awful when it counted, he was actually pretty good when it counted.  If only his D played like Eli's.

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I responded to someone saying he was good awful when it counted, this stat doesn't make him great just shows he wasn't good awful when it counted, he was actually pretty good when it counted.  If only his D played like Eli's.

The games that give you access to play in the postseason count too. He'd be in the league if he were any good in those.

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14 minutes ago, Matt39 said:

The games that give you access to play in the postseason count too. He'd be in the league if he were any good in those.

How many games did he and the pass O save us in 2010? We wouldn't have made it without him.  In 2009 he was more along for the ride in the regular season, not in 2010.

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22 minutes ago, nyjunc said:

How many games did he and the pass O save us in 2010? We wouldn't have made it without him.  In 2009 he was more along for the ride in the regular season, not in 2010.

Who cares? I'm talking about now. He's not playing, and hasnt played recently, because he isnt an NFL starter and a marginal backup. A few good games 10 years ago certainly doesn't make a career, regardless if they were in the playoffs or not. The only guy that really works for is Jeff Hostetler, who was a better QB than Sanchez ever was.

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