jgb Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 It should be suppressed. I'd argue there's a pretty strong expectation of privacy in a massage parlor. Yes it was technically a crime but serves absolutely no public good to release a wank video. Privacy from undue harassment and embarassment is something all citizens should enjoy unless overrided by public interest. I know it's not a popular view because it's the Patriots owner, but show some empathy, folks. He's an old man who just got a massage and her hands started going lower and he was like "ah what the hell." 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 Kraft was never going to do time anyway. Quite honestly, justice has probably been 90% served already just by the sheer embarrassment and ridicule he's received. Don't get me wrong, he deserves every story written about him, every meme and joke made. This is going to stick with him like a finger in the ass. Dude can't go to an event or anything these days without getting pointed at. It's glorious. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 50 minutes ago, jetstream23 said: Kraft was never going to do time anyway. Quite honestly, justice has probably been 90% served already just by the sheer embarrassment and ridicule he's received. Don't get me wrong, he deserves every story written about him, every meme and joke made. This is going to stick with him like a finger in the ass. Dude can't go to an event or anything these days without getting pointed at. It's glorious. JN puritans are badly misjudging the zeitgeist. Billionaires will get their arses kissed even after doing much worse. This would be a non event for a truck driver. For Kraft, probably only Jets and Patriots fans are still even following this “story.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelticwizard Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 4 hours ago, neckdemon said: they got a warrant so whats the problem? couldnt exactly just walk in and tell the place they were installing cameras. The warrant says the police can install video equipment. I don't believe it says the police can commit an illegal act, like calling in a phony, made up bomb scare in order to empty the building, to get that video equipment installed. How can the police legally break the law in order to enforce the law? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantasy Island Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 7 hours ago, NoBowles said: I think we all win by not ever having the chance to accidentally watch that horror pornhub Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funaz Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 The warrant says the police can install video equipment. I don't believe it says the police can commit an illegal act, like calling in a phony, made up bomb scare in order to empty the building, to get that video equipment installed. How can the police legally break the law in order to enforce the law?It wasn't breaking the law it was a police tactic to clear the room. They had two choices make a distraction to empty the business or break in at night.These are not illegal acts when there is proper justification for the surveillance and procedures are followed. Just like The FBI investigating foreign contacts within a presidential campaign is not "spying" if the process was followed and the suspicioun and evidence warrented those actions. The police don't make that call a judge does. The crime of paying for sex is rediculous, but the reason for the sting was the task force believed there may been some trafficking going on. This turned out to be false, so really this while thing is not a big deal. It does highlight how broken our legal system is for the rich. If the penalty is a fine then it's basically legal for rich people. Also let's not pretend that Kraft was just getting a message and some girl accidentally started wanking him. He was there for the sole purpose to engage in the act, and had been there multiple times.Sent from my Pixel 3 XL using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hackenberg - Banned Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 Exactly as I told you it would go down. There's nothing to be seen. It was easy as hell to predict it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenFish Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 10 hours ago, TuscanyTile2 said: Got away with what though? Consensual sex (in exchange for money) between 2 adults? Prostitution is illegal in the US. So, yes what you are describing is him getting away with soliciting prosititution which is a crime. May seem minor to some but it’s a crime nonetheless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 9 hours ago, GreenFish said: Prostitution is illegal in the US. So, yes what you are describing is him getting away with soliciting prosititution which is a crime. May seem minor to some but it’s a crime nonetheless. Actually that statement is incorrect. Actually prostitution is legal in this country, but states can regulate it or outlaw it. Prostitution is legal in parts of Nevada, was legal for quite a while in Rhode Island, and is decriminalized in other places, Prostitution being illegal is incredibly dumb. There are horrible elements to prostitution that should still be illegal and policed such as slavery, child prostitution, pimping, etc....but those are easier to pursue if there are avenues for legal controlled prostitution. And massage parlors in nearly every state are generally allowed to operate even though the police know prostitution is happening. The Jupiter case is very unusual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 9 hours ago, Hackenberg said: Exactly as I told you it would go down. There's nothing to be seen. It was easy as hell to predict it. Very true. Reality is that even without million dollar lawyers it is extremely difficult to get convictions in these cases and most of the others in this case that fight it will get off too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREENBEAN Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 "accidentally" 5 xSent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 This would be an absurd reason to toss a 80 year old man in jail come on folks it’s a fine and move on kinda deal. So he owns the Patriots, you gotta be some kinda sad sack to want him to do time for this jerkoff “crime” (couldn’t resist). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apache 51 Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 Big money usually prevails. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 Just now, Apache 51 said: Big money usually prevails. Doesn’t mean it wasn’t the right decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apache 51 Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 Just now, jgb said: Doesn’t mean it wasn’t the right decision. That's a given. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 1 minute ago, Apache 51 said: That's a given. He didn’t pull an OJ, he got off (heh) from getting a sleazy consensual yank and by the way the other schmos caught in this sting got the same treatment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Hackenberg - Banned Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 1 hour ago, johnnysd said: Actually that statement is incorrect. Actually prostitution is legal in this country, but states can regulate it or outlaw it. Prostitution is legal in parts of Nevada, was legal for quite a while in Rhode Island, and is decriminalized in other places, Prostitution being illegal is incredibly dumb. There are horrible elements to prostitution that should still be illegal and policed such as slavery, child prostitution, pimping, etc....but those are easier to pursue if there are avenues for legal controlled prostitution. And massage parlors in nearly every state are generally allowed to operate even though the police know prostitution is happening. The Jupiter case is very unusual. In the old west..it was just another job in the bar. And a business at the gold rush camps. This country was built on prostitution lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 The only thing worse than imagining a naked 80 year old man getting crank started by a latex-gloved, bored, and grizzled massage parlour lifer is seeing a video of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyJersey Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 I feel bad he is that rich yet cant find a massage parlor that offers better service than handjobs. If all i am offered is a handy, i get dressed and leave, never to return, and i am poor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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