jgb Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 56 minutes ago, nyjunc said: Yep it was all Brett, never mind all the give FA additions especially up front which took us from one of the worst OLs in football to one of the best along with over if the easiest schedules we have ever had. It was all the greatness of a player who didn't want to be here and played like it.? Late in Brett's career the cold affected him, remember when he handed the 2007 NFC title to the Giants in the bitter cold? You’re too funny. One vivid memory that sticks in your mind is enough to define a career but statistics—complied over an entire career, and in the case of Favre and Eli hundreds of games, are meaningless when they don’t fit your view. If you’re right, the opposite must also be true. Please tell us some QBs with crappy stats that were actually HOF calibre players Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 Just now, jgb said: You’re too funny. One vivid memory that sticks in your mind is enough to define a career but statistics—complied over an entire career, and in the case of Favre and Eli hundreds of games, are meaningless. If you’re right, the opposite must be true. Please tell us some QBs with crappy stats that were actually HOF calibre players Mark Sanchez. Duh. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 1 minute ago, jgb said: You’re too funny. One vivid memory that sticks in your mind is enough to define a career but statistics—complied over an entire career, and in the case of Favre and Eli hundreds of games, are meaningless. If you’re right, the opposite must also be true. Please tell us some QBs with crappy stats that were actually HOF calibre players Are you putting favre and Eli in the same sentence? Favre 186-112 as a starter, Eli 116-114. I think favre is overrated among the all time greats (I don't believe he is top 10) but he's still an all time great. The other guy is mediocre. So you think Brett throwing as many INTs as TDs was a good statistical season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 4 minutes ago, nyjunc said: Are you putting favre and Eli in the same sentence? Favre 186-112 as a starter, Eli 116-114. I think favre is overrated among the all time greats (I don't believe he is top 10) but he's still an all time great. The other guy is mediocre. So you think Brett throwing as many INTs as TDs was a good statistical season? Nice dodge. No rush though genuinely interested who these QBs with terrible stats but really were HOF quality players are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesr Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 Two more names I've yet to see mentioned. Derek Strait Jon McGraw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 6 hours ago, T0mShane said: I can imagine that the sixth year of Rex Ryan would produce a roster filled with the biggest assholes in the league. My nephew said the guy that was in charge of the interns was a total jerk too. When they had practices with other teams, he would talk to Interns from those other teams & they were all like we're treated great. When he told them the sh*t that was going on with the Jets & how badly they were treated these other Interns were shocked. Funniest thing about that camp is my nephew said the NICEST & FUNNIEST guy?.....Mo Wilkerson! Said he was always cool, gave my nephew a nickname COOL BLUE because he always had Mos favorite gatoraid ready, lol. Mo was probably like that funny guy at school, just passing through, having a good time, but he was getting PAID. * Said Geno Smith was borderline retarded by the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 1 minute ago, Jetster said: My nephew said the guy that was in charge of the interns was a total jerk too. When they had practices with other teams, he would talk to Interns from those other teams & they were all like we're treated great. When he told them the sh*t that was going on with the Jets & how badly they were treated these other Interns were shocked. Funniest thing about that camp is my nephew said the NICEST & FUNNIEST guy?.....Mo Wilkerson! Said he was always cool, gave my nephew a nickname COOL BLUE because he always had Mos favorite gatoraid ready, lol. Mo was probably like that funny guy at school, just passing through, having a good time, but he was getting PAID. Some guys need an extra nudge. Todd Bowles was the worst coach to provide external motivation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 Brett Ratliff is the correct answer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apache 51 Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 Coples...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 Danny Woodhead. People on this board called that one right when our dunce management did not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy2020 Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 15 hours ago, TheMo said: Christian Hackenberg The logical knots people twisted themselves into over him were amazing. People were literally making arguments like him not playing a snap meant nothing or even that it meant he was really good so they didn't want to "showcase" him and let defensive coordinators get tape on him for the next season. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, jeremy2020 said: The logical knots people twisted themselves into over him were amazing. People were literally making arguments like him not playing a snap meant nothing or even that it meant he was really good so they didn't want to "showcase" him and let defensive coordinators get tape on him for the next season. My favourite was that it’s good he isn’t playing so that Bowles won’t have a chance to ruin him 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 30 minutes ago, jgb said: Nice dodge. No rush though genuinely interested who these QBs with terrible stats but really were HOF quality players are. Nice dodge? You are doing nothing but making things up and you just put Eli and favre together. Please stop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 1 minute ago, nyjunc said: Nice dodge? You are doing nothing but making things up and you just put Eli and favre together. Please stop. The only comparison I made is they both played hundred of games. Come on, you’re better than this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 4 minutes ago, jgb said: The only comparison I made is they both played hundred of games. Come on, you’re better than this. No, he's really not. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 6 minutes ago, jgb said: The only comparison I made is they both played hundred of games. Come on, you’re better than this. Yeah that's it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 12 minutes ago, nyjunc said: Yeah that's it. And here I assumed your struggles with statistics were due to you being an English major. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 22 minutes ago, jgb said: And here I assumed your struggles with statistics were due to you being an English major. You guys are good at insulting, it's the football stuff you struggle with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 20 minutes ago, nyjunc said: You guys are good at insulting, it's the football stuff you struggle with. If that’s your way of acknowledging that we disagree with you, then thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 Not sure if mentioned yet, but I remember a lot of fans myself included slobbering Glen Foley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 7 hours ago, section314 said: Eric Smith. Without Eric Smith there would be no positive points to make for Tim Tebow NFL career arguments (though I’ll argue there is still nothing positive NFL wise). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 3 hours ago, dcJet said: Chad was so loved. Whenever they showed the stands on tv i swear 90% of the jerseys were number 10. 5% number 80. 0% number 11. That's exactly why he best fits the thread. He was obsessively adored by fans but was an injury prone loser who also had the distinction of being picked 175 spots ahead of Brady that same year making him the worst value QB pick ever. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 1 hour ago, Apache 51 said: Coples...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlife33 Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 Did anyone mention Dex Mcdougle for crusher? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 13 minutes ago, Lupz27 said: Without Eric Smith there would be no positive points to make for Tim Tebow NFL career arguments (though I’ll argue there is still nothing positive NFL wise). Ah.yes, the game in Denver when Smith had him dead to rights for a huge loss on the game winning drive, and he fell for the pump fake. Good stuff.? Followed up a month later with the Christmas Eve wiff on Victor Cruz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 7 minutes ago, CTM said: That's exactly why he best fits the thread. He was obsessively adored by fans but was an injury prone loser who also had the distinction of being picked 175 spots ahead of Brady that same year making him the worst value QB pick ever. “Loser” might be a tad harsh I get the feeling his real “crime” was playing better elsewhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 Ok I think this guy belongs here don’t care he never played for the Jets. Nnamdi Asomugha 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmat321 Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 Pennington- I recently caught the colts playoff game on YouTube. Was at that game, thought he was a franchise qb. Got a totally different vibe after watching it over 15 yrs later on a screen. Even in that dominating game, you could see that style of play was doomed. Jets running game was solid. Colts were not getting any pressure all game. Chad was completing a ton of underneath stuff against the Tampa 2. Saw 2 of plays where Moss and chrebet had gotten behind the safeties, Chad couldn’t get enough arm on the ball. Great locker room guy, outstanding mind for the game, but he never had the physical tools, even pre injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmat321 Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 10 minutes ago, Lupz27 said: Ok I think this guy belongs here don’t care he never played for the Jets. Nnamdi Asomugha All I remember from that was Incarcerated Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 17 minutes ago, jgb said: “Loser” might be a tad harsh I get the feeling his real “crime” was playing better elsewhere Loser. All he did elsewhere is what he did here, ride a weak schedule and yellow game plan to a wild card berth only to get completely embaressed once the teams became to good for play not to lose to be a viable strategy. He hand cuffed this franchise for the better part of a decade 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmat321 Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 Also another thing about Chad’s year - The Westoff, Morton, Moss return game. It seemed that whole season Chad was playing with a short field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleckineau Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 Rex's useless FB John Connor. Cmon...admit it......you fell for the snake oil salesman's pitch and thought he was gonna take on and steamroll linebackers and DBs. The terminator lololololol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 7 minutes ago, Kleckineau said: Rex's useless FB John Connor. Cmon...admit it......you fell for the snake oil salesman's pitch and thought he was gonna take on and steamroll linebackers and DBs. The terminator lololololol He was no Trevon Wesco, that's for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesr Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 Mike Nugent The "answer" to Doug Brien ... that wasn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 Shonn Greene. After that first postseason, I really thought we had something. Never could carry the load as a feature back -- I expected so much more from him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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