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Rich Cimini         ESPN Staff Writer 

The Jets have requested permission to speak with two more candidates in their GM search — Vikings assistant GM George Paton and Seahawks co-director of player personnel Scott Fitterer, per the NFL Network. The Jets won't take "no" for an answer on Paton, who spurned their request in two previous GM searches. Don't expect the third time to be the charm. They also have sought permission for Eagles vice president of player personnel Joe Douglas and Bears assistant director of player personnel Champ Kelly. Interviews will start this week.

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With the Jets beginning their search for a new general manager, Philadelphia Eagles vice president of player personnel Joe Douglas has emerged as New York’s top target.Given his level of experience and familiarity with Adam Gase, Douglas seems like the perfect guy for the job. He spent 16 years in the Baltimore Ravens’ personnel department before spending a year in Chicago with Gase and then joining the Eagles in 2016. With Philadelphia, Douglas has been a key part of Howie Roseman’s front office and played a role in constructing the Eagles’ Super Bowl LII-winning roster.

Because of this, Philadelphia will not let Douglas go if the organization does not believe he is taking the ideal general manager job. Likewise, Douglas has no plans on leaving the Eagles for the Jets if New York does not grant him full control of the 53-man roster, according to SportsRadio 94WIP’s Howard Eskin.It does not make sense for Douglas to bolt for New York if the Jets do not give him the authority he desires. As a budding executive, Douglas will likely be a hot candidate for general manager openings next season if he does not take the Jets job. Why sign on with a team that is not willing to give you full control of the roster instead of waiting for one that will?

Douglas saw this scenario play out when he was with the Ravens, as Eric DeCosta repeatedly turned down other NFL teams in their search for a general manager throughout the years. Instead of jumping at the first opening, DeCosta waited for what he thought was the right fit. As a result, DeCosta was eventually named Ozzie Newsome’s successor as GM and took over as Baltimore’s Executive Vice President and general manager at the end of the 2018 season.

There are only 32 general manager jobs in the NFL, but patience is a virtue. Fit is the key, and if Douglas does not feel like he can do what he wants to do in New York, he will remain in Philadelphia, leaving the Jets with no choice but to move on to Plan B.

>    https://jetswire.usatoday.com/2019/05/26/new-york-jets-gm-search-adam-gase-joe-douglas-roster-control-eagles/

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The New York Jets are looking for a new general manager, but how much control will Mike Maccagnan’s replacement have over the final roster ?

Considering the power struggle that led to Maccagnan getting fired just months after the hiring of new head coach Adam Gase, it’s safe to assume Gase would have some influence over who becomes the next GM.

But will that influence extend to how his roster is put together ?

For example, the latest report involving one of the Jets’ top targets for the new position, Philadelphia Eagles Vice President of Player Personnel Joe Douglas, indicates this particular issue could be a sticking point.

According to Sports Radio WIP’s Howard Eskin, Douglas and the Eagles would scuttle his candidacy if he doesn’t get full control of the roster :    

 
Adding to a report @RapSheet the #Jets have asked for permission to talk with #Eagles VP of player personel for their GM opening. I’m told unless Jets give Douglas final say on players the Eagles would not let him go and Joe Douglas would not take the job. @SportsRadioWIP      
 

Last week, Gase told the media that the new general manager will indeed have control of the roster :

Whoever is getting hired is going to have the same role — control of the roster, control of the 53. I will coach the football team. That’s what I’m going to do. Nothing is changing in that structure.

It would obviously make more sense to give the new general manager that full power, rather than letting a head coach who was just fired from another AFC team exert influence over roster decisions rather than focusing purely on his coaching responsibilities. While many coaches have coveted decision-making power when it comes to roster building, few have proven to be up to the task.It’s certainly possible Gase could be the exception to the rule, but nothing he’s done in his career up to this point suggests he’s ready nor deserving of that kind of confidence.

The Jets will be better off letting the new general manager have complete roster control, especially if Douglas is their top target.

>     https://thejetpress.com/2019/05/27/will-next-jets-gm-get-full-roster-control/

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As the Jets continue their search for a new general manager, after firing Mike Maccagnan, they have added two names to their interview request list, bringing the total to four.The latest two are Vikings assistant general manager George Paton and Seahawks co-director of player personnel Scott Fitterer, according to NFL Network.The Jets previously requested interviews with Eagles vice president of player personnel Joe Douglas and Bears assistant director of player personnel Champ Kelly.It seems unlikely Paton would take the Jets’ job. He is a hot, up-and-coming GM candidate who surely would wait for a better opportunity in which he could pick his own coach. With the Jets, he’d be walking into a situation where coach Adam Gase already has a lot of power.

The Jets interviewed Fitterer in 2015 before they hired Maccagnan. They requested to speak with Paton during that search, but he declined.

Douglas is considered the favorite to get the job, partly because he has a relationship with Gase, who was the Bears offensive coordinator in 2015, when Douglas was their college scouting director. Kelly and Gase worked together with the Broncos from 2009-14.The 2018 season was Paton’s 12th with the Vikings. He has a long working relationship with GM Rick Spielman. Paton has worked in pro and college scouting. That versatility makes him a desirable candidate. But he has previously rejected multiple overtures to leave the Vikings.Fitterer is the Seahawks’ co-director of player personnel with Trent Kirchner, who is considered another up-and-coming GM candidate.

>    https://www.nj.com/jets/2019/05/jets-gm-search-christopher-johnson-adds-2-candidates-to-interview-request-list-who-will-get-the-job.html

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As the Jets search for a new General Manager, one question becomes whether and to what extent interim G.M. Adam Gase will surrender control over the roster when a new G.M. arrives. Another question becomes whether and to what extent he needs to.The fact that the Jets have requested permission to interview at least four executives currently under contract with other teams implies that the job entails enough responsibility to permit the hire to be made; otherwise, the requests could be (and likely would be) summarily denied.The relevant league policy requires that, in order to hire an executive under contract with another team, the Jets offer “the primary authority over all personnel decisions related to the signing of free agents, the selection of players in the College Draft, trades, and related decisions; and . . . the primary responsibility for coordinating other football activities with the head coach.”

The policy also includes this important language: “Final authority regarding the composition of the 53-player roster is not a requirement.”

This means that the Jets can hire an executive under contract with another team without offering full control over the 53-man roster. As long as the job includes “primary authority” over the signing of free agents, the draft, trades, and other personnel decisions and “primary responsibility for coordinating other football activities with the head coach,” that’s enough.Basically, the paperwork needs to simply give the G.M. the requisite powers in writing. Whether “primary authority” means that the G.M. will have, hold, and use the ability to do whatever he wants without regard to what the coach or anyone else thinks doesn’t matter. Nine years ago, Vikings coach Brad Childress had the primary authority over the roster, allowing him to fire receiver Randy Moss on a whim. Doing so without properly consulting with others in the organization (including ownership) greased the skids for Childress’ own firing not long thereafter.

Then there’s the 2008 Dolphins and 2009 Browns. In the former example, Miami hired G.M. Jeff Ireland away from the Cowboys, even though it was widely believed that V.P. of football operations Bill Parcells was calling the shots. In the latter, Cleveland pilfered George Kokinis from Baltimore, giving him authority in writing that coach Eric Mangini had as a practical matter.None of this stops the Jets from giving control over the 53-man roster to the G.M. Gase has made it clear that he doesn’t want it, and there’s a decent chance he means it. The overriding question continues to be whether the new G.M. will be someone who wants to work with Gase, or whether it is someone who walks through the door with a short list in hand of coaches the G.M. wants to hire, sooner or later.

If that’s the case, the Jets are destined to endure more dysfunction, until the G.M. finally gets to hire one of the coaches found on that short list.

>    https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/05/28/jets-dont-need-to-give-final-say-over-53-man-roster-to-hire-an-executive-away-from-another-team/

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After spending the past week issuing requests to interview, the Jets will finally meet their first candidate for their general manager position.

According to Sports Illustrated’s Albert Breer, the Jets will interview Seahawks Co-Director of Player Personnel Scott Fitterer on Thursday and Friday. Breer also noted that the Bears’ Champ Kelly will meet with the Jets at some point and Minnesota’s George Paton is not sure if he’ll accept an interview.Fitterer started as a scout with Seattle in 2001 and then moved all the way up to director of college scouting when Pete Carroll and John Schneider were both hired. He held that position until 2015 when he was upgraded to Co-Director of Player Personnel, a position he has held ever since.

At the moment, Eagles VP of Player Personnel Joe Douglas still remains the favorite to land the job. He has yet to accept his interview request, though.  As for Kelly, he could still wind up with the Jets even if he’s not given the general manager’s job. Breer said that if Douglas got the job, Kelly could still potentially work under Douglas.It’s safe to say that things are ramping up on 1 Jets Drive, but the Jets can take their time with this one. They are the only team who needs a general manager, so they have no competition. Before making a final decision, New York must vet all of its options in order to get the hire right.

> https://jetswire.usatoday.com/2019/05/28/new-york-jets-general-manager-search-seattle-seahawks-scott-fitterer-champ-kelly-george-paton-joe-douglas/

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On 5/14/2019 at 10:58 AM, T0mShane said:

What a hack-ass piece of sh*t article clearly written atop someone’s toilet. The actual list:

1. Passing on Deshaun Watson and Pat Mahomes. Call this revisionist, but that’s not how history works, which will show that there were two franchise QBs on the board and he took a safety. 

Better said as a summarized "QB talent management".  Pick of Petty, pick of Hackenberg, the failure to resign Fritz for cheap or early enough, signing McCown then resigning him for Fitz money, missing QB's in draft after draft (including Mahomes), and having to spend so much to get a chance for maybe Darnold (thank God for the Giants).  

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3. Offering Kirk Cousins $120 million in guaranteed money while fielding the worst roster in football. Imagine where the Jets would be if Maccagnan succeeded in bringing in Steve Beurlein 2.0 at $30 mil per.

8-8 last year and just having drafted the best Center in the 2019 draft?

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4. Ignoring the OL and skill positions in the drafts leading up to 2018 while still claiming the “plan” was to draft QB in 2018. 

+∞

I'd also add "BAP Drafting Philosophy".  Oddly, I heard Macc just drafted another D-Tackle last night, and plans to draft another tomorrow.....

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Maybe the third time will be the charm.

The Jets have twice tried to include Vikings assistant general manager George Paton in their search for a new GM, but were rebuffed in both 2013 and 2015. Now, they’re trying again, as Paton is among four known candidates with whom the Jets have requested an interview. (Click here to see the other three.)

Paton, who has been with the Vikings since 12 years, has been turning down GM opportunities around the league for years. But might he reconsider this time around? That remains to be seen.But if he does, would he be a good fit and smart hire for the Jets?

To answer that part, let’s take a closer look at who Paton is and what he’s done during his NFL career:

RESUME

Paton began his NFL career in the Bears’ scouting department and eventually became the team’s assistant director of pro personnel in 2000. From there, he hopped to the Dolphins, where he was the director of pro personnel from 2001-06. He’s been with the Vikings ever since, working hand in hand with Rick Spielman. Paton became the team’s assistant GM when Spielman was promoted to GM in 2012.Now, here’s a deeper look at why Paton may or may not be a good fit for the Jets:

PROS

Background as talent evaluator

We’ve written this before, but it bears repeating: The most vital job of any general manager is finding and securing good players. That’s much more difficult to accomplish when you’re not well versed in what actually makes a good player good. Having a GM with a background in scouting can help streamline the process of identifying needs and targeting the right players to fill them. It’s a minor positive, considering all of the Jets’ current prospects come from scouting backgrounds, but it still matters.

Stellar draft record

If there’s anything the Vikings have excelled at during Paton’s time toward the top of the flow chart, it’s owning the NFL Draft. Just look at the past five years as an example: The Vikings found Dalvin Cook in the second round, Danielle Hunter in the third, Stefon Diggs in the fifth, among other terrific pickups. Plus, they landed Adam Thielen as an undrafted free agent in 2013, which obviously turned into a tremendous pickup. That track record is basically the exact opposite of the Jets’ during that time frame. That massive deficiency has been the main reason for the Jets’ struggles the past few years. The fact that Paton has proven capable of selection college talent should make the Jets drool.

Not a puppet

If the Jets hired Paton, they’d immediately put to bed most of the speculation that the next GM will simply be a “yes man” for – or at the very least friend of – head coach Adam Gase. Why? Because Paton has no previous connection to Gase. Obviously, the Jets could only hire Paton if he and Gase got along and believed they could work together. Otherwise, picking him would be counterproductive. But if he clears that hurdle, then having an independent voice in the room could potentially be an asset.

CONS

No relationship with Gase

Here’s the flip side of that coin: The lack of a previous relationship could slow down the learning process for both Gase and Paton. Gase loved his relationship with Chris Grier in Miami – once the GM learned how he thinks. But that took three years. If the Jets hire someone with whom Gase is already familiar, they may be able to cut down on that lag time. If that helps lead to better roster decisions earlier in this new regime’s tenure, it could go a long way toward turning a bad team into a competitive team, a competitive team into a playoff team, etc. Gase and Paton would be starting from scratch. In some sense, that diversity of opinion could be good. In another, it could lead to a less-than-symbiotic relationship for a while, as the two feel each other out.

Who really deserves credit?

Paton obviously deserves some measure of credit for the Vikings’ successes, given he’s been with the team for 12 years. But he’s been attached at the hip with Spielman throughout that tenure. So it’s fair to wonder whether Paton is capable of replicating this success and draft record on his own or whether he’s – to some degree – riding on his friend’s coattails. Unfortunately for the Jets, there’s probably one one way to find out for sure.

Shying away from spotlight

Paton has spent quite a while now turning down interview requests in order to stick by Spielman. That won’t help shoot down the narrative put forward above. But it also suggests that he may be content as the second in command. Perhaps he doesn’t feel comfortable envisioning himself as the lead dog. Obviously, that’s something the Jets should find out pretty quickly during an interview. But if there’s even a small sliver of Paton that doubts whether or not he’s cut out for the job, then hiring him could be a disastrous move. NFL GM jobs are not ones you can succeed at with less than 100 percent conviction.

VERDICT

Paton may not be the perfect hire – we still think Joe Douglas is the man for the job – but he’d be a very solid one for the Jets. That’s if they can get him to sit down at the table, of course. His extensive experiences and track record in the draft are incredibly alluring and should give the Jets confidence that he’d be able to build around quarterback Sam Darnold, while also building a base of talent and depth that only the draft can truly provide. Sure, there may be some bumps along the road as he and Gase learn to work together, but that’s far from uncommon. It’s worth signing up for the learning curve if it means having an experienced voice and razor-sharp talent evaluator to lead the front office.

>     https://www.nj.com/jets/2019/05/jets-gm-search-who-is-vikings-george-paton-bio-pros-cons-of-dark-horse-candidate.html

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The Jets have added a fifth candidate to their general manager search.

According to NFL Network’s Ian Rapoport, the Jets have put in a request to interview the Saints Director of Pro Scouting Terry Fontenot. Unlike some of the candidates New York has requested to interview, Fontenot has no pre-existing relationship with Gase.

@RapSheet 

The #Jets added a 5th name to their GM search: NYJ has put a request in for #Saints Director of Pro Scouting Terry Fontenot, sources say. Under-the-radar, but Fontenot has a great reputation and along with Sean Payton & Jeff Ireland, has helped NO drastically improve its roster.

The Jets have now requested to interview Joe Douglas, Champ Kelly, Scott Fitterer, George Paton, and Fontenot. However, only Fitterer and Kelly have accepted their interview requests so far.Fontenot is entering his 16th season with the Saints and has spent six of them as the director of pro scouting. Previously, he was a pro scout for seven years before being promoted to director of pro scouting. Fontenot also served as a pro scouting assistant as well.

Douglas still remains the favorite to land the general manager job, but the Jets are keeping their options open just in case Douglas elects to stay with the Eagles. The Jets will have their first interview on Thursday and Friday with Fitterer, while Kelly is most likely the next candidate that will be interviewed.

> https://jetswire.usatoday.com/2019/05/29/report-jets-add-saints-director-of-pro-scouting-terry-fontenot-to-gm-search/

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 Two weeks after firing Mike Maccagnan as general manager, the New York Jets are poised to begin the interview process for a replacement.

The Jets are expected to meet in the coming days with Seattle Seahawks co-director of player personnel Scott Fitterer, Chicago Bears assistant director of player personnel Champ Kelly and Philadelphia Eagles vice president of player personnel Joe Douglas, starting Thursday with Fitterer.They also requested permission to speak with Minnesota Vikings assistant general manager George Paton and New Orleans Saints director of pro scouting Terry Fontenot, according to the NFL Network, but it's unclear if interviews have been set up.

Realistically, the Jets could have a new GM in place in seven to 10 days. It's possible they could reach out to another candidate or two.Coach Adam Gase, named the interim GM, declined to provide an update Wednesday on the search. Gase will have a key role in the process, fueling speculation that Douglas is the favorite because they worked together with the Bears in 2015. The Douglas rumors started before Maccagnan was fired on May 15.

Douglas has a key role in the Eagles' front office, and they don't want to lose him, but he has told friends he's intrigued by the Jets' opening.Gase also has a background with Kelly; they were part of the Denver Broncos' organization from 2009 to 2014.The new general manager will work alongside Gase, and both will report directly to CEO Christopher Johnson -- the same power structure they had with Maccagnan and former coach Todd Bowles. The GM's power won't change, according to the Jets.

The GM will have control of the 53-man roster and final say on personnel decisions. Gase said he doesn't mind not having control of the roster, which he had with the Miami Dolphins.The Jets' long-term uncertainty at the ownership level could be a concern for candidates, league sources said. Johnson is running the team while his older brother and owner Woody Johnson serves as the U.S. ambassador to the United Kingdom. His future in that role will hinge on the outcome of the 2020 presidential election.

>      http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/26849272/jets-begin-interview-process-new-gm

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For the third time, Vikings vice president of player personnel and assistant general manager George Paton has rebuffed the Jets and will remain put in Minnesota.According to The Athletic’s Connor Hughes, Paton declined New York’s request to interview him for its general manager job. Paton is the first candidate that has elected not to talk to the Jets about the opening.

Paton is no stranger to turning the Jets away. When New York was looking to replace Mike Tannenbaum, Paton declined to interview for the job. He did the same when the Jets fired John Idzik a couple of years later.Given Paton’s comfort level in Minnesota and his long-standing relationship with general manager Rick Spielman, his decision not to interview with the Jets does not come as much of a surprise. Paton has rebuffed other NFL teams in the past and odds are, he will take over for Spielman when the time comes.

With Paton out of the running, New York’s search for a new general manager is down to four candidates. The Jets are interviewing Seattle Seahawks Co-Director of player personnel Scott Fitterer on Thursday and Friday, while Philadelphia Eagles vice president personnel and perceived favorite Joe Douglas will interview for the job as soon as this weekend.New York is also expected to talk to Chicago Bears executive Champ Kelly, but a date has not yet been set. New Orleans Saints Director of Pro Scouting Terry Fontenot has yet to respond to the Jets’ request to interview.

>   https://jetswire.usatoday.com/2019/05/30/new-york-jets-general-manager-search-vikings-george-paton-declines-interview-request/

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The Jets are more than two weeks into their search for a new general manager, but only have four names on their current list of candidates, now that Vikings assistant GM George Paton has pulled his name from consideration.

Here are the current candidates:

Joe DouglasEagles vice president of player personnel

Scott Fitterer – Seahawks co-director of player personnel

Champ Kelly – Bears assistant director of player personnel

Terry Fontenot – Saints director of pro scouting

If the Jets are still hoping to interview about a half-dozen candidates, as was previously reported, they’ll need to find some new prospects to add into the mix.And, frankly, they should. The more candidates acting owner Christopher Johnson meets with the better. Playing the field should only help the Jets solidify what they’re looking for in their next front-office leader.

So, here’s a look at five names the Jets should consider adding to the mix as this search continues forward:

OTHERS TO CONSIDER

Adam Peters – 49ers vice president of player personnel: Peters, like some of the names on the Jets’ current list, has a friendship with head coach Adam Gase. That shouldn’t be the main priority with this hire, but the possibility of hiring a familiar face and cutting down the learning curve between Gase and the new GM is certainly appealing. More than that, Peters got his scouting start with the Patriots from 2003-08, then worked in college scouting with the Broncos and eventually ascended to director of college scouting before landing in his current job. Those are some legit credentials.

• Lance Newmark – Lions director of player personnel: The knock on Newmark is that he’s been with the Lions for 23 years and hasn’t exactly done a boatload of winning. But all that time does give him the heft of experience. He’s been in this current No. 2 role since 2017. Before that, he also had a long history as a scout. And, like Peters, he’s a friend of Gase – they overlapped from 2003-07 in Detroit. So, if Johnson is intrigued by finding someone with whom his coach has a previous relationship, Newmark would be an obvious addition.

• Brian Xanders – Rams senior personnel executive: A somewhat off-the-board pick here, but Xanders helped build the Broncos’ roster in the early stages of their contending years; he was the team’s assistant GM in 2008 and GM from 2009-12. He’s spent the last two seasons in this role with the Rams, who sure seem to be doing a good job of getting in contention while building around a young quarterback. Seems like a formula the Jets could stand to copy. Oh, and he overlapped with Gase in Denver during his stint as GM, too.

 Mike Borgonzi – Chiefs director of football operations: No Gase connection here, but he gets the nod here because of how successful the Chiefs have been of late. Last season was his first in this job; he spent 2017 as the team’s director of player personnel – still a big title. The knock here would be that head coach Andy Reid makes most of the personnel decisions in Kansas City, so Borgonzi may not have the requisite experience in that department quite yet.

• JoJo Wooden – Chargers director of player personnel: Wooden makes the list because he’s more than a little familiar with the Jets; he worked for the team from 1997-2012, climbing the ladder to become assistant director of player personnel for his last six seasons in New York. He’s been in California ever since, helping the Chargers remain a consistent threat. Perhaps it’s time for him to take another step up the ladder in an NFL front office. The Jets could offer him that chance, along with the ability to move back to his long-time home.

>      https://www.nj.com/jets/2019/05/jets-gm-search-5-names-christopher-johnson-should-consider-adding-to-candidate-list.html

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 The Jets have interviewed Seattle Seahawks executive Scott Fitterer for their general manager job.

The team's announcement Friday that it completed its meeting with Fitterer marked New York's first interview in the process of filling its front-office vacancy.Fitterer has been the Seahawks' co-director of player personnel alongside Trent Kirchner since 2015. He has worked with Seattle since 2001 and served in various roles, including as the team's director of college scouting.

Mike Maccagnan was fired in a surprise move by Jets chairman and CEO Christopher Johnson on May 15 after four seasons -- just over two weeks after the GM oversaw the team's draft. Johnson said he was looking to hire someone who was "a strategic thinker" and added that "it's more than a talent evaluation guy."Head coach Adam Gase is the acting general manager and has an active role in the Jets' process of finding a new GM.

Joe Douglas, Philadelphia's vice president of player personnel, is expected to interview with New York over the weekend. He is largely considered the favorite to land the gig. Terry Fontenot, New Orleans' director of pro scouting, is also expected to be among the candidates to meet with the Jets.

>     http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/26865615/jets-interview-seahawks-exec-fitterer-gm-job

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Adam Gase and Christopher Johnson are going to be extremely busy over the next couple of days.

With the weekend here, New York’s general manager search is beginning to ramp up. On Friday, the Jets hosted Seattle Seahawks Co-Director of Player Personnel Scott Fitterer for their first interview of the search. New Orleans Saints Director of Pro Scouting Terry Fontenot will interview on Saturday, Philadelphia Eagles vice president of player personnel and perceived front-runner for the job Joe Douglas will meet with New York on Sunday and Chicago Bears executive Champ Kelly will have his chance to impress Jets brass early next week.

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The #Jets GM candidate interview schedule as of now: Scott Fitterer of the #Seahawks was today. Terry Fontenot of the #Saints is tomorrow. Joe Douglas of the #Eagles is Sunday. Then Champ Kelly of the #Bears to begin next week.

 

The interview to keep an eye on is Douglas on Sunday. Given his connection with Adam Gase and extensive experience in the front office, Douglas is the ideal candidate for the job. If all goes well in his interview, New York’s search could be over before Kelly gets to meet with the team.However, if the Jets do not give in and allow Douglas to have his desired full control of the 53-man roster, New York will likely have to extend its search into next week with some new candidates likely entering the mix.

With the interview schedule set in stone, the Jets are entering the most crucial part of their search for a new general manager. New York has zoned in on its top candidates for the job and secured sitdowns with them. Now, both Gase and Johnson will have to make sure they find the right fit for the position. It will be a strenuous process, but one that is crucial to the success of the franchise moving forward.

>    https://jetswire.usatoday.com/2019/06/01/new-york-jets-general-manager-search-interview-schedule-joe-douglas/

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Rich Cimini    ESPN Staff Writer 

The Jets have completed their two-day interview with GM candidate Joe Douglas (Eagles), the team announced. He's the odds-on favorite. One interview to go: Champ Kelly (Bears). The search could be wrapped up in a couple of days.

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A look at what's happening around the New York Jets:

1. Next man up? Interviews for the general manager vacancy are underway and, barring any glitches, the team could have its man by the end of the week. There are four known candidates with confirmed interviews, none of whom has previous GM experience. They're all from NFC teams that made the playoffs last season, so the Jets are looking in the right places. The key is finding an executive who is compatible with new head coach Adam Gase, whose personality isn't for everybody.That they're hiring the GM after the coach -- yet another arranged marriage -- makes it an especially slippery slope. Many league insiders believe Gase's recommendation will be rubber-stamped by ownership. What could go wrong?

I spoke to five people in the scouting/personnel community to formulate a scouting report, if you will, on each of the candidates. Here's how I would rank them:

Joe Douglas, Eagles vice president of player personnel: The presumptive favorite received high marks for his ability as a talent evaluator. No one had anything negative to say about his football acumen, not even competitors -- which is a rarity in the business. A former associate said Douglas, 42, is "a quality option" for the Jets. Another called him "a scout's scout." He was a member of two Super Bowl winners with the Ravens and another with the Eagles. Now, after three seasons of running the Eagles' personnel department and managing the scouts on a day-to-day basis, Douglas is looking to run his own shop, friends say.Douglas knows Gase better than any of the other candidates, which gives him an advantage. They spent 2015 together with the Bears, and they also have the same agent, Jimmy Sexton. (Don't think for a second that isn't a factor.) Described as quiet and easygoing, does Douglas have the personality to command an entire organization? Could he coexist with the high-strung Gase?Douglas worked his way up the scouting ladder in the Ravens' organization, learning from Ozzie Newsome. Fun fact: In 2001, while working for the Ravens as a low-level personnel assistant, Douglas was the "Turk" in HBO's "Hard Knocks," which featured the Baltimore training camp.

  • Scott Fitterer, Seahawks co-director of player personnel: This isn't his first rodeo; Fitterer interviewed for previous GM openings with the Colts, Chiefs and 49ers. The consensus among our five-man panel is that Fitterer, 45, is ready to make the jump. Specifically, he was praised for his expertise in college scouting. He doesn't have much experience on the pro side, which could be a concern. One person called him a "foot soldier" in the Seahawks operation. He has no background with Gase, but friends say they became acquainted on the NFL's off-season circuit -- scouting combine, Senior Bowl, etc.Born and raised in Seattle, Fitterer has worked for his hometown team since 2001 -- a double-edged sword. He has been around a lot of winning, and he has observed one of the most successful coach-GM tandems in the league in Pete Carroll and John Schneider. On the flip side, he knows only one way of doing things. Fitterer "doesn't have a big personality, but I think he has enough moxie to handle the New York scrutiny," one rival scout said. Fun fact: Fitterer was drafted by the Toronto Blue Jays.

  • Champ Kelly, Bears assistant director of player personnel: He has the "it" factor. One scout said of Kelly, "You're not going to find a better person. He'll know everybody's name in the building after a week." That's worth noting, because CEO Christopher Johnson has said he wants more than a talent evaluator; he covets a "strategic thinker" who can galvanize the organization.Actually, Kelly has known Gase longer than anybody on this list, as they overlapped for six seasons with the Broncos (2009 to 2014) and one with the Bears (2015).There's some talk in league circles that Douglas, if he gets the job, could try to pry Kelly from the Bears to be his right-hand man. They have a good relationship. Kelly, 40, has spent most of his career in pro scouting; his work on the college side is limited. With his charisma, Kelly would win the introductory news conference, but some wonder if the jump from assistant director to GM is too big. Fun fact: Kelly has a master's degree in business and worked for IBM as a software engineer.

  • Terry Fontenot, Saints director of pro scouting: His presence on this list puzzled some because he has no obvious connection to Gase. Two prominent Jets assistants, Gregg Williams and Joe Vitt, are familiar with Fontenot because they spent time with the Saints. Fontenot, 38, is considered an up-and-comer in the business, but his credentials are thin at this stage of his career. He started with the Saints after college, and he has spent the past 16 years in the organization, working mainly in pro scouting -- yet another candidate with limited exposure to the college side. He is a long shot.

  • George Paton, Vikings assistant general manager: Still no word on whether he will take the interview. The Jets were spurned in previous attempts, 2013 and 2015, and it would surprise no one if they go 0-for-3.

  •  Leonard ready to cash in: One of the first big items on the new GM's agenda is to make a decision on the long-term future of Leonard Williams, who is entering a contract year. Basically, the new boss has four options: Sign Williams to an extension, use the franchise tag (an estimated $18 million), let him walk as a free agent or trade him.The problem with hiring a new GM this late in the game, not to mention having to work with a new coach, is that he probably will want to use the season to evaluate Williams. It's risky, because if Williams delivers a career year, it'll cost the Jets at the bargaining table. (See: Muhammad Wilkerson, a massive contract the Jets quickly regretted.) If Williams has a productive year, he will look for something north of $18 million per year.Williams downplayed his contract situation, but he admitted "it definitely feels a little bit different than all of the other years."He said he "definitely" wants to remain with the Jets, adding, "I feel like I'm a loyal type of player. I never thought about transferring when I was in high school or college. It's like kind of the same now. I want to stay on the team if I have the opportunity to."Quite frankly, Williams needs to be better to warrant a huge extension. His pass rush win rate was only 16 percent last season, five points below the NFL average for his position, according to NFL Next Gen Stats data. The previous coaching staff always tried to mitigate his low sack numbers (seven over the past two seasons) by claiming he drew an inordinate number of double-teams.

  • When pass-rushing from the 3-technique position (lined up on the outside shoulder of a guard), Williams was double-teamed 63 percent of the time in 2018. The league average for the position was 54 percent. If rookie Quinnen Williams develops quickly, he might be able to reduce the pressure on Leonard, resulting in fewer double-teams. Which should be a huge boost to his bank account.

  • Studying Peyton: This shouldn't come as a surprise, but Sam Darnold has been studying old Peyton Manning video in an effort to familiarize himself with Gase's offense -- and, of course, to see how a great quarterback played the position.Stylistically, Darnold is different from Manning in that he can play outside the pocket, but Darnold still can pick up some nuances with regard to footwork, protection schemes and route concepts. Manning played under Gase from 2012 to 2014 with the Denver Broncos, so there are more than 3,000 plays at Darnold's fingertips on his computer tablet."I don't think he's trying to overanalyze it," Gase said. "I think he's trying to take some of those finer points of some of the things Peyton did and implement those, but at the same time, be himself. ... It's really about putting his spin on the entire offense."

    4. Dangerous corner: My biggest takeaway after watching two practices: The cornerback situation is precarious.

  • The position was suspect last season, and the Jets didn't do much to improve it. They said goodbye to penalty machine Buster Skrine, overpaid to re-sign backup Darryl Roberts, made a low-level signing in Atlanta Falcons castoff Brian Poole and used a sixth-round pick on the injury-prone Blessuan Austin, who probably will begin the season on the physically unable to perform list. The Jets still have Trumaine Johnson, but the previous administration concluded after only one season that he was a bad signing.How is this possible? The Jets haven't drafted a good corner since Darrelle Revis in 2007. Defensive coordinator Gregg Williams is a smart dude, but there's no scheme that can camouflage shaky corners.

    5. The last word: "I can say this, and it might be speaking very loud right now, but I think (Le'Veon Bell) probably will retire a Jet because of the fact that him and Jamal [Adams] together, on opposite sides of the ball, they're going to make each other better. He's going to make everybody better." -- Jets nose tackle Steve McLendon, reunited with the former Pittsburgh Steelers star after four years apart.

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If I had to number his f*ck ups in order of severity, I guess I'd have to say drafting Hack was clearly the most egregious? I hated the Lee pick from the very second it was made. I've been an outspoken critic of him from day one. But looking back, drafting Hack was like flushing a perfectly good draft pick down the toilet. At least Lee played on the field.

The Kirk Cousins offer is probably a strong third? It never happened so Cousins isn't f*cking up the Jets now, but the offer alone demonstrates just how bad Mac was and how he had no vision of what the team would look like had he acquired that JAG.

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Maccagnan's worst move by far was signing Mccown instead of letting Bryce Petty and Hackenberg battle it out to be the starter. That would have been no more reckless than the Kellen Clemens vs  Mark Sanchez battle of 2009. Maccagnan would have saved himself three 2nd rounders and got Bowels who he knew was atrocious fired. Gase would not be the HC and Macagnan would still be the GM with Darnold not having to learn a knew offense and with greater young talent around him.

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On 5/14/2019 at 1:39 PM, Thai Jet said:

Exactly. Especially Mahomes who everyone thought the Chiefs were crazy to move up to grab him. You just never know.

 

On 5/14/2019 at 12:14 PM, dbatesman said:

literally no one knew Watson or Mahomes would be good, cant fault Maccc for that one

Guys me, and @JiF are right here!  There were more.

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The Jets have completed their GM interview with Bears exec Champ Kelly, the team announced. This likely completes the first round of interviews, as the four known candidates have met with the Jets. The decision could be made this week.

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The Jets are likely just days away from hiring a new general manager.

We don’t yet know if it’ll be frontrunner Joe Douglas or one of the other candidates who will end up in the Jets’ GM chair. But we do know that whoever it is will have some major decisions to make – and soon.

Here’s a look at a few key moves that will face the Jets’ general manager shortly after he assumes the role:

1. Find a right-hand man

One (understandably) overlooked piece of this GM search? That it isn’t the only job the Jets need to fill. The next general manager will also have to find someone to be his second in command as the vice president of player personnel, considering Brian Heimerdinger was fired at the same time as Mike Maccagnan.If Douglas is the hire, both NFL Network analyst Daniel Jeremiah and Bears assistant director of player personnel Champ Kelly (who is also a GM candidate) have been floated as potential package deals. But that’s not a guarantee. And if the Jets hire a different GM, that man will have to find his No. 2, too. That will be the first order of business and a crucial one in shaping the new front office.

2. Flesh out scouting department

This falls right behind finding a right-hand man, but not by much. The next GM will have to decide which of the Jets’ current scouts can stay, which will go and who should be brought in to take their place. This all happens outside of the public view, for the most part; fans aren’t keeping up with the names and profiles of in-house scouts. But it’s still a crucial piece of the puzzle within a healthy front office. Nailing these hires and having good talent evaluators in place is necessary to a successful operation.

3. Lock up remaining draft picks

Here’s where we get into the nitty gritty of roster moves. This is a simple one, though, considering rookie contracts are all slotted. So, both Quinnen Williams and Chuma Edgoa – the Jets’ two remaining unsigned draft picks – basically know what money is headed their way. So the only obstacle stopping a contract from being signed, really, is contract language. Hammering that out and getting these two players on the official roster should be the new GM’s first tasks when it comes to his current crop of players.

4. Extend Leonard Williams’ contract?

This topic came up last week during OTAs; Williams has said that he’s not thinking much about his contract, but would like to stay in New York long term. Now it’s up to the new GM to decide whether he wants Williams, too. And, if he does, the GM also has to decide if it’s worth locking him up now, before he’s played a single snap under the new coaching staff and alongside Quinnen Williams or whether it would be better to wait and see how this season plays out – even if that means risking Leonard Williams’ price tag increasing in free agency or him walking away altogether. Not an easy call.

5. Fill hole at CB

If the Jets’ next GM is going to make any sort of notable additions in the early stages of his tenure, they should come at cornerback. That is by far this team’s weakest spot on the roster right now. The Jets need to bring in competition for Darryl Roberts at the No. 2 spot – perhaps by re-signing Morris Claiborne, who remains a free agent – and also need to add depth. Relying on Trumaine Johnson and Roberts as starters, then leaning on Jeremy Clark and Derrick Jones as backups, sure looks like a recipe for disaster.

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As the Jets begin mandatory minicamp on Tuesday, the team expects to have a GM in place at the end of next week according to Adam Gase.New York finished up its first round of interviews on Monday when Chicago Bears assistant director of player personnel, Champ Kelly, completed his interview with the team. Now that the first round of interviews is over, the Jets have a decision to make between Kelly, Joe Douglas, Terry Fontenot and Scott Fitterer.

“We went through some interviews this weekend,” Gase said. “Those guys did a great job. It was a great process that we’ve gone through so far.”

Gase told reporters before minicamp kicked off that he participated in all four interviews for the vacant GM position. As Gase has said before, the final decision will be up to Christopher Johnson, but the two presumed favorites have previous ties to Gase.“We’ll just keep huddling up and figuring out where we’re at with that until Christopher [Johnson]’s ready to make a decision,” Gase said.

Ultimately, the Jets will take their time to make a decision and a general manager will not be put in place until New York is sure that it is hiring the right guy.Gang Green is holding their mandatory three-day minicamp before one more week of voluntary OTAs. The hope is the Jets will have their next GM in place before the league goes on a month-long hiatus in preparation for training camp.

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When it comes to handicapping the field of candidates to replace Mike Maccagnan as general manager of the New York Jets, the general consensus has been it’s Joe Douglas and everybody else.

While Douglas, the Vice President of Player Personnel for the Philadelphia Eagles, has interviewed for the job and has strong ties with head coach Adam Gase, the rush to give him the job may be a bit premature.Ian Rapoport of the NFL Network said Tuesday that Seattle Seahawks Co-Director of Player Personnel Scott Fitterer made a strong impression on the Jets during his interview for the job on Friday.“The presumptive favorite is Joe Douglas from the Philadelphia Eagles,” Rapoport said. “And it has been pretty clear from the beginning that at the least he would have a very good shot at this based on his relationship with Adam Gase and based on his prowess in the front office with the Eagles. But I would add one thing, do not discount Scott Fitterer from the Seahawks. I know everyone assumes it’s going to be Joe Douglas’ job and it may be, but from what I am told, Fitterer was incredibly impressive.

They like his body of work, they like him as a guy, which everyone around the league seems to. He also is expected to be in the mix at the end likely with Joe Douglas for the Jets.”Mike Garafolo of the network added there has been “buzz” regarding Fitterer in recent days.Fitterer has worked for the Seahawks since 2001 and currently serves as Seattle’s co-director of player personnel alongside Trent Kirchner, who has also been a candidate for G.M. jobs in recent years. Fitterer joined the team as an area scout in 2001 and the club promoted him to director of college scouting in 2010 when Pete Carroll and John Schneider took over the front office.

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The Jets conducted a second round of talks with the four GM candidates, ESPN's Adam Schefter reported. The four are Joe Douglas (Eagles), Scott Fitterer (Seahawks), Champ Kelly (Bears) and Terry Fontenot (Saints). This means the Jets are in the homestretch. Douglas still is considered the favorite, but these situations can be fluid. There's a lot to be ironed out with regard to salary and staffing.

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The New York Jets conclude their spring workouts next week with their final set of OTA practices. Head coach Adam Gase has said he hopes the team hires a new general manager by next Thursday, when OTAs finish.

The team has had two rounds of interviews with four candidates: EaglesJoe Douglas, Seahawks’ Scott Fitterer, Saints’ Terry Fontenot, and Bears’ Champ Kelly.Douglas started as the early favorite to replace Mike Maccagnan. But NFL Network’s Ian Rapoport and Mike Garafolo have reported that Fitterer could be a serious contender.Not so, says The Athletic’s Jay Glazer, who insists Douglas is the frontrunner, despite the Eagles attempts to keep him in Philadelphia.

It has been Joe Douglas all along but the Eagles were really trying to squeeze Joe and convince him that staying with Philly is a better opportunity. On the surface, the Jets job is not the most appealing gig. For one, there’s the recent history of the Jets, which isn’t pretty. Two, there’s the question of the ownership and what happens when Woody Johnson (who is currently serving as U.S. Ambassador to the United Kingdom) returns? You don’t really look at the Jets and think how great it would be to work for them. Sure, you’ve got a good, young quarterback in Sam Darnold, and that should factor in some. But listen, I’m from Jersey but if you gave me a job right now to move my ass right in the middle of Jersey, it better be for a lot of damn money, because I am not going back.

The Jets concluded their mandatory minicamp Thursday by cancelling practice and heading to TopGolf in Edison for some team bonding.

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-- The first time anyone noticed Joe Douglas in the NFL was the summer of 2001, when he played a bit role in the debut of HBO's "Hard Knocks" series. A low-level personnel assistant for the Baltimore Ravens, Douglas was "The Turk" -- the league's version of the Grim Reaper.A camera followed him on cut-down day as he walked the halls of the Ravens' facility, breaking the bad news to players. He was only 25, and he looked it. He wore a blue baseball cap, khaki shorts and a blue T-shirt with "Sloppy Joe's" on the back. For what it's worth, he didn't seem to relish the assignment.Douglas has gone from the most thankless job in the NFL to one of the toughest -- general manager of the New York Jets. From Hard Knocks to Hard Times.

Wish the man luck because he will need it.

On the surface, this is a very good hire by the Jets. Douglas, named on Friday to replace the recently fired Mike Maccagnan, is a true football guy. He worked his way up the scouting ladder in two organizations that hoisted a Lombardi Trophy during his tenure -- the Ravens and Philadelphia Eagles, where he spent the past three years as the vice president of player personnel. People in the scouting community say he's a terrific talent evaluator with a tireless work ethic. His résumé screams, "I'm ready!"

But is he ready for the Jets ?

Pardon the skepticism, but this isn't your typical GM gig. Oh, no. This is a franchise that lacks stability (he's the fourth GM in the past eight years). This is a franchise with a stand-in owner, CEO Christopher Johnson, who showed inexperience and indecisiveness by waiting so long to make the Maccagnan move. This is an organization known for clashing agendas and backroom politics. A former Jets coach once told me, "You always have to watch your back in that building."

And Douglas wants to be part of this ?

Hearkening back to that old T-shirt, this could get sloppy, Joe. He could be the next Bobby Beathard in terms of scouting acumen, but that doesn't mean he will be a smashing success. There are so many mitigating factors, starting with this: He must be compatible with coach Adam Gase, who, despite his denials, ran off Maccagnan in four months -- the same Maccagnan who was instrumental in hiring him.You would like to believe Gase and Douglas will be a good team because ... well, Gase picked him. If you believe the conspiracy theorists, Gase had his eye on Douglas from the moment he arrived at One Jets Drive in January. They worked together in 2015 with the Chicago Bears and they stayed in touch. Familiarity is important in the coach-GM relationship. The Jets didn't have it with Rex Ryan-John Idzik and Todd Bowles-Maccagnan, and the results were awful -- 12-20 and 24-40, respectively.    

Jets just would not take “no” as an answer from Joe Douglas. He tried to turn down the Jets and each time he did, they came back at him harder and harder. Jets simply were not going to be denied in their efforts to land the former Eagles’ vice president of player personnel.

The Jets have no chance -- no chance! -- if Gase and Douglas don't have the same vision, don't work collaboratively and don't have each other's back. That doesn't sound too difficult, but it is for this franchise. As the New York Daily News reported last week, and sources confirmed, Johnson and Maccagnan held a secret meeting late last fall with Kliff Kingsbury's agent even though Bowles was still the coach. Maccagnan must have felt like a "Sopranos" character because he went from "made" man to sleeping with the fishes in only a few months.Gase isn't for everybody because of his intense, high-strung personality, so it's fair to wonder about the long-term viability of this marriage. Will Gase stay in his lane and let Douglas handle the roster and personnel decisions? Contractually, Douglas controls the 53-man roster and has final say. Gase insists he's cool with that, but we'll see. One positive: Basically, both men are starting at the same time, which means there shouldn't be any finger pointing if things go bad after one year. They're on the same timeline. They're in it together.

Famous last words.

Douglas inherits a roster that isn't terrible but isn't playoff-ready either. He doesn't have to worry about a quarterback because Sam Darnold shows promise, but the offensive line needs a makeover, defensive end Leonard Williams and wide receiver Robby Anderson are entering contract years and the cornerback position is scary thin. The cap situation is fine, but will Douglas feel the same way in 2021, when C.J. Mosley, Trumaine Johnson and Le'Veon Bell are counting for $47.5 million, and Darnold is eligible for an extension ?  Make no mistake, Douglas will have a lot of heavy lifting in the coming years, but there's so much more to this than personnel decisions. This is about changing the culture within the building. The late great George Young, former GM of the New York Giants, used to say (paraphrasing): It's not the system that fails, it's the resistance of people buying in.

If the Jets fail to accomplish a singular vision (again), the Turk will be coming for Douglas and Gase a lot sooner than they anticipated.

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Despite all the mistakes I think if Macc had run that last draft differently he might have stayed.  Whatever his approach on those three days caused a rift in the personnel department and that along with Gase's dissatisfaction with free agency, basically finished him.  If I had to pick one move that got the clock ticking though.  It was the Hackenberg selection.

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Newly hired Jets GM Joe Douglas, whose first day in the office was Monday, will be introduced Tuesday at a 3 p.m. news conference. The challenge for Douglas is to change the perception that he.will be a "yes" man for coach Adam Gase. Another question he must answer: Is it true that he turned down the Jets and had to be convinced to take the job?

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My top 4 duds....

Hackenberg….The fact this guy couldn't get himself on the field was hard to believe. I always said to myself how bad can he be but now we know the answer.

Re-upping Fitzpatrick.

Going Safety/Safety in the 2017 draft. I like both players but who does that with such other glaring needs? 

Not addressing Center in this years draft. How may did he pass on? I have a feeling that was his downfall and lead him to get fired. 

 

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On 5/14/2019 at 12:14 PM, dbatesman said:

literally no one knew Watson or Mahomes would be good, cant fault Maccc for that one

Now that I'm thinking about this in context of his other selections, if he could spend a second on Hack, he certainly could have taken either Watson or Mahomes with the 6th overall. True nobody knew they would be as good as they are (not really convinced Watson is legit yet) but they were true QB prospects, a lot more true than Hack. It actually shows how dysfunctionally the draft was handled. 

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A few takeaways on Joe Douglas' introductory presser: 1.) True to his roots as a former offensive lineman, Douglas is a blue-collar guy with a clear vision of how he wants to build the team. He said it starts with the quarterback and both lines. 2.) Adam Gase was happier than he was at his own intro presser. Clearly, he has a comfort level with Douglas. 3.) Instead of yapping about a long-team plan (see: rebuilding) and tamping down expectations, as Mike Maccagnan often did, Douglas said there's "a sense of urgency" because they have a young QB in Sam Darnold.

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