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Its obvious the nfl has moved to rb by committee for obvious reason. Short career. The position has the highest injury risk. And the position is overly dependent on oline competency and quality qb play to take the 8th man out of the box. What do the jets do??? The pay 60 million to a rb ( where most plateau at 27-28 and ) , and not only that. They pick the biggest asshat and selfish cancer they can find in bell. 

 

You would think after getting millions after sitting out you'd want to be a leader ,meet your teammates and just do the normal damn thing... Nope he gives the finger to the jets and our joke of a gm...

 

We could have signed a couple more stud olineman but nope. Just like passing on marino and sapp we find a way to avoid common sense. Mark my words the obj trade and bell singing will be a disaster.

 

We just dont " get it" 

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Just now, Rolloffjet said:

Yea bad idea to sign top 3 rb in league. And a great safety target for Sam to keep drives alive.

Give me two stud olineman and whoever for our 3rbs... Its beyond incompetent. And bell is NOT a top 3 rb. Thats a joke. He had a great qb and oline in pitt

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1 minute ago, jvill 51 said:

The Steelers tried to give Bell an even larger deal than the Jets did

Not in guaranteed money and bell was 2 years younger... Plus its obvious they were never gonna sign him long term. Thats ehy they low balled him and never backed off the franchise tag

 

Try again.

 

Not to mention its still stupid to not have rbs on their rookie contract and then let them go.

 

 

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2 minutes ago, DJF71 said:

So glad he is gone and glad he blew out his achilles.

Lol you use that money for two pro bowl olineman plys the trade for osomele and you roll with McGuire, a rookie, ty and jail moore...

 

Bell is not a breakaway threat, hes not marshall faulk and style depends heavily on great oline play.

 

Its incompetence and a panic move like most by our gm

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Just now, Bruce Harper said:

 


Who are these “stud olinemen” who were available?There were not any available and are not generally generally available. And Paradis (coming off an injury) made clear that he would not play in New York.

And Bell is not just any RB. His numbers compare favorably to Jim Brown and other all-time greats. People use running backs by committee because they don’t have RBs like Bell.


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His numbers are like connor and the other rbs in Pitt for the past 15 yrs

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1 minute ago, jvill 51 said:

It was last year, so he was one year younger. The offfer was 5/70 with 33 million guaranteed paid out over the first 2 years, and 45 paid out over the first 3 years (unclear how much of that 3rd year was guaranteed). The Jets paid him 4/52 with 26 million guaranteed paid out over the first two years and zero guaranteed after that. So the Jets got Bell to sign for substantially less than the Steelers “lowball offer”.

Try again.

From what i read they only guaranteed the 1st year...

 

Its a moot point because the guaranteed money was substantially less than the market....

 

They did that on purpose because they never had any urgency in signing him because of the reasons i already stated.

 

Regardless even if the steelers were to give him that contract it would still be insanely retarded

 

Try again jackass

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5 minutes ago, Bruce Harper said:

 


Who are these “stud olinemen” who were available?There were not any available and are not generally generally available. And Paradis (coming off an injury) made clear that he would not play in New York.

And Bell is not just any RB. His numbers compare favorably to Jim Brown and other all-time greats. People use running backs by committee because they don’t have RBs like Bell.


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Paradis not wanting to come here supports that the jets fo is incompetent. Not competent

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2 minutes ago, Bruce Harper said:


He didn’t want to play in a big city. Don’t make stuff up.


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You buy that pc line lol

 

Just like elway didnt want to play in the cold and just like barr loves our fo

 

Wake up man

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8 minutes ago, jvill 51 said:

Off to a hot start with the personal attacks.

But sure, let’s keep breaking down your logic. Your initial premise that I quoted was that the Bell signing was a bad move because the Steelers front office is smarter than the Jets and the Steelers didn’t offer Bell a long term deal. Except they did offer him a long term deal, with a higher AAV, and more money paid out over the first few years of the deal (see here: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/leveon-bell-reportedly-turned-down-a-monstrous-70-million-deal-from-the-steelers/amp/ ).

You then claim that this offer was so below market value that they knew Bell would never sign it. The flaws here are: 1. You cite nothing to back up that contention and 2. The offer clearly was not below market value as Bell signed for far less the following offseason. Given that the deal was actually above market value, what would have happened if Bell accepted rather than gambled? Would be a pretty dumb way to conduct business, don’t you think?

Your next point is that if the Steelers gave him that contract it would be “insanely retarded”. Maybe so. Problem is, they did offer him that contract, which negates your original premise that the Bell signing was dumb because the Steelers never offered him a long term deal.

The original premise was the idiocy of the signing.

 

So youre wrong there...

The gurley contract and was way above bells in guaranteed money. So they did lowball him. So youre second pt is wrong.

The jets paid more in guaranteed money and overall ( its 61 mil/4yrs). So ypur 3rd pt is wrong.

 

All this is moot as i already stated because AGAIN the syeelers didnt sign him. The idiotic jets did which was my original point. Good lord get it together

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18 minutes ago, Bruce Harper said:

You still haven’t told us who these stud lineman are. Paradis was such a stud that he was coming off an injury and the broncos gave up on him. Who else did you have in mind?

 

 

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https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/all/offensive-line/

 

 

Google is your friend...

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2 minutes ago, Bruce Harper said:

Since you apparently don’t understand, pc stands for politically correct. How does that apply here? It does not. And your thread title contains the word “tje,” which, as far as I know, is not really a word.


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Paradis giving the big city line was pc and bs... If you cant understand that im.assuming u think barr was lying? 

 

You cant be this dumb

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1 minute ago, joenamathwouldn'tcry said:

First things first, "McGahee".  "2121'" represents Willis McGahee's birthdate, October 21st, and his number with the Buffalo Bills was #21.  Guess that clears up the genesis of you "moniker".  Bills Fan.....

Now that we've established what you are, please refrain from using "we", when attempting to represent the point of view of a Jets Fan.  You are  a Troll.  Nothing more.  

To be an effective troll, at least try to make a believable argument.  Yours have been weak, and have been decimated by the posters here. 

The Steelers spent the better part of two seasons trying to extend LeVeon Bell.  When it became apparent that he wasn't signing with them long term, the conversation changed to save face.

He is still a running back in his prime.  You don't know what you're talking about.  He is also unique in his running style.  He picks holes created in the flow of the play.  He does not depend on holes created by the offensive linemen.  Again, you don't know what you're talking about.  He is also the best receiving running back in the league.  He is a completely different back than Ezekiel Elliott or Todd Gurley.  When you said that he wasn't a top 3 back in the league, you didn't mention who was.  I assumed you meant Elliott or Gurley as amongst them.  Again you don't know what you are talking about.

As for the "Stud Offensive Linemen" on the market, lets look at them.  Paradis, contrary to your insistence, is a country boy who didn't want to come here.  That's a fact.  Secondly he was/is a major injury concern, even now, so the Jets were not crazy about him. His former team, the Broncos, only offered him a one year deal.  Morse was given the highest contract paid to a center in football.  The Jets did not think he was worth that.  Saffold was considered, but signed a massive deal that is risky given his age.  Trent Brown also signed a ridiculous deal, paying him well above his performance level and history.  He was paid off of a great post season.  Osmele who the Jets acquired for a 5th round pick, is a better option than all of these players.

Perhaps you'd know these things if you were a  Jet's fan, or just not a troll.  Regardless, one thing is clear.  You don't know what you're talking about.

I'll be thinking about you when the Jets kick the Bills' asses twice this year.  Until then, enjoy.....

What was connors #s last year?

How much does he make?

 

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3 minutes ago, Bruce Harper said:

Could you be a little more specific? Two of the “studs” on your list are Carpenter and Long. No thanks. And we know how well those Patriot linemen have done on other teams. Not convinced.

 

 

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I wouldn't have signed bell

 

Id sign morse and brown and trade for osmele... There are other lineman on that list better than what we have, especially inside. From g-g

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2 minutes ago, Peace Frog said:

Another reason to fire Mac. 

Am I doing this right?

Yes... And he gets no credit for the darnold trade. My drunk ass couldve mafe that trade for less in a coma

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6 minutes ago, Bruce Harper said:

Could you be a little more specific? Two of the “studs” on your list are Carpenter and Long. No thanks. And we know how well those Patriot linemen have done on other teams. Not convinced.

 

 

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Its a logical fallacy to presuppose patriots olineman will be bad just because some from the pats have underperformed.

Read up on your epistemology bud.

 

Similar to the usc bad qb argument

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6 minutes ago, Bruce Harper said:

Oh, and you say Bell represents everything the Jets have done wrong in the past. When have they ever overpaid for a free agent running back? Curtis Martin? He was one of their best players ever and made the hall of fame. Maybe it’s time to slink back too that Bills message board.


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Who was the jets qb during the martin era? What was the jets record during that era?

Did u realy compare martin and bell???

 

Like i said. We wouldve been infinetly more wise using bells bling money on the oline....

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1 minute ago, joenamathwouldn'tcry said:

Let's get this straight.  Your "proposition" would be to build this all star Offensive Line featuring Morse, Trent Brown, and Osmele.  Then behind this awesome line, your  "master stroke", would be to trot out a backfield featuring Eli McGuire, DeAngelo Henderson, and Jalin Moore.  Brilliant.  And you have the audacity to call the Jets front office stupid?  Have another drink....

Please list former  Patriot Offensive Linemen who have excelled elsewhere.  I can't really think of any, can you??

James Connor [not Connors] had a fine season last year.  He also got hurt.  We'll see how he does going forward.  He's no LeVeon Bell, that much is for sure.

When danny woodhead and rex burkhead run through giant holes.... Yes 

Yes we are stupid

 

Again its a logical fallacy with pats olineman underperforming... Learn to read tje whole thread genius

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2 minutes ago, Bruce Harper said:

No. I thought that you did. But for what it’s worth, Martin said Bell is more talented than he was.

 

And the Jets made the playoffs four times with Martin, including a conference championship game, in case you forgot.

 

 

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So we never won anything except one yr in 98 when our qb play was the best in franchise history arguably

 

Really man??

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4 minutes ago, Bruce Harper said:

No. I thought that you did. But for what it’s worth, Martin said Bell is more talented than he was.

 

And the Jets made the playoffs four times with Martin, including a conference championship game, in case you forgot.

 

 

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What else would martin say

 

Did the iq drop a standard deviation here wtf

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3 minutes ago, jvill 51 said:

The original premise of our “discussion”, which began as I said with the post of yours I originally quoted, was that the Steelers never offered Bell a long term contract. That’s been the entire whole of our conversation. I could go into your first post here, which is similarly flawed, but others have already done that and frankly it’s pretty clear that you aren’t here in good faith so I’m not sure what the point is.

Moving on, just because they didn’t offer him the most guaranteed money of any RB does not mean that they lowballed him. Obviously Bell thought he could get more on the open market. He couldn’t. So the Steelers offer to him was actually more than the rest of the market offered him. It’s a pretty simple concept.

As for the contract details, it’s only 4/61 if he hits every incentive in his deal, which includes winning league MVP. If Bell wins the league MVP 4 times, I think even you would agree the signing was far from a mistake. So let’s stick with the more likely number, which is 4/52, with 26 guaranteed, all in the first two years. Again, the Steelers offer was 5/70, with 33 guaranteed.

The one thing you are right about is that this is moot. The whole conversation is premised on the idea that the Steelers never tried to sign Bell long term when they clearly did.

There’s legitimate reasons to dislike the Bell signing. The Steelers letting him go isn’t one of them, but by all means continue doubling down.

Connors stats?

Connors salary?

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9 minutes ago, joenamathwouldn'tcry said:

I read the "whole thread", genius.  Please learn how to spell three letter words before you disparage the intelligence of others..  So, now the conversation shifts it's focus to Danny Woodhead and Rex Burkhead running through giant holes?   OK, I'll play.... 

Tell me "Einstein", what is the Patriocheats offense predicated on?  That's right.  Short quick passes to slot receivers, and tight ends.  The "giant holes" that these running backs go through, are the result of the off balanced defense created by the quick passes featured in the Brady/Bellicheat Offense.  In other words they are a by product of the passing game.  They are not the result of a superior, dominating offensive line.

Good job, you made the argument.  For the position that the Patriocheats Offensive Linemen don't have to be very good.  Congratulations.

A little advice.  Stop throwing around terms like "epistemology", when you can't spell people's names, or spell words like "the", or is it "tje".  It makes you look even more stupid.  Now go have another drink, and perhaps work on your grammar, spelling and football knowledge.  And stop using the phrase "we" if you choose to discuss the Jets or their fans.

You are not one of us.  That is the only point that you've proven here tonight.  I'm done.  Happy trolling, jerkoff.....

 

lol insecure

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14 minutes ago, Mogglez said:

A Bills fan trolling a Jets board to feel better about his players calling others insecure.

We've hit the deep level of irony.

Huh

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