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57 minutes ago, MCGAHEE2121 said:

Lol you use that money for two pro bowl olineman plys the trade for osomele and you roll with McGuire, a rookie, ty and jail moore...

 

Bell is not a breakaway threat, hes not marshall faulk and style depends heavily on great oline play.

 

Its incompetence and a panic move like most by our gm

First things first, "McGahee".  "2121'" represents Willis McGahee's birthdate, October 21st, and his number with the Buffalo Bills was #21.  Guess that clears up the genesis of you "moniker".  Bills Fan.....

Now that we've established what you are, please refrain from using "we", when attempting to represent the point of view of a Jets Fan.  You are  a Troll.  Nothing more.  

To be an effective troll, at least try to make a believable argument.  Yours have been weak, and have been decimated by the posters here. 

The Steelers spent the better part of two seasons trying to extend LeVeon Bell.  When it became apparent that he wasn't signing with them long term, the conversation changed to save face.

He is still a running back in his prime.  You don't know what you're talking about.  He is also unique in his running style.  He picks holes created in the flow of the play.  He does not depend on holes created by the offensive linemen.  Again, you don't know what you're talking about.  He is also the best receiving running back in the league.  He is a completely different back than Ezekiel Elliott or Todd Gurley.  When you said that he wasn't a top 3 back in the league, you didn't mention who was.  I assumed you meant Elliott or Gurley as amongst them.  Again you don't know what you are talking about.

As for the "Stud Offensive Linemen" on the market, lets look at them.  Paradis, contrary to your insistence, is a country boy who didn't want to come here.  That's a fact.  Secondly he was/is a major injury concern, even now, so the Jets were not crazy about him. His former team, the Broncos, only offered him a one year deal.  Morse was given the highest contract paid to a center in football.  The Jets did not think he was worth that.  Saffold was considered, but signed a massive deal that is risky given his age.  Trent Brown also signed a ridiculous deal, paying him well above his performance level and history.  He was paid off of a great post season.  Osmele who the Jets acquired for a 5th round pick, is a better option than all of these players.

Perhaps you'd know these things if you were a  Jet's fan, or just not a troll.  Regardless, one thing is clear.  You don't know what you're talking about.  By the way, the Steelers are a mess, from the top down, maybe not a good example.

I'll be thinking about you when the Jets kick the Bills' asses twice this year.  Until then, enjoy.....

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Could you be a little more specific? Two of the “studs” on your list are Carpenter and Long. No thanks. And we know how well those Patriot linemen have done on other teams. Not convinced.

 

 

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1 minute ago, joenamathwouldn'tcry said:

First things first, "McGahee".  "2121'" represents Willis McGahee's birthdate, October 21st, and his number with the Buffalo Bills was #21.  Guess that clears up the genesis of you "moniker".  Bills Fan.....

Now that we've established what you are, please refrain from using "we", when attempting to represent the point of view of a Jets Fan.  You are  a Troll.  Nothing more.  

To be an effective troll, at least try to make a believable argument.  Yours have been weak, and have been decimated by the posters here. 

The Steelers spent the better part of two seasons trying to extend LeVeon Bell.  When it became apparent that he wasn't signing with them long term, the conversation changed to save face.

He is still a running back in his prime.  You don't know what you're talking about.  He is also unique in his running style.  He picks holes created in the flow of the play.  He does not depend on holes created by the offensive linemen.  Again, you don't know what you're talking about.  He is also the best receiving running back in the league.  He is a completely different back than Ezekiel Elliott or Todd Gurley.  When you said that he wasn't a top 3 back in the league, you didn't mention who was.  I assumed you meant Elliott or Gurley as amongst them.  Again you don't know what you are talking about.

As for the "Stud Offensive Linemen" on the market, lets look at them.  Paradis, contrary to your insistence, is a country boy who didn't want to come here.  That's a fact.  Secondly he was/is a major injury concern, even now, so the Jets were not crazy about him. His former team, the Broncos, only offered him a one year deal.  Morse was given the highest contract paid to a center in football.  The Jets did not think he was worth that.  Saffold was considered, but signed a massive deal that is risky given his age.  Trent Brown also signed a ridiculous deal, paying him well above his performance level and history.  He was paid off of a great post season.  Osmele who the Jets acquired for a 5th round pick, is a better option than all of these players.

Perhaps you'd know these things if you were a  Jet's fan, or just not a troll.  Regardless, one thing is clear.  You don't know what you're talking about.

I'll be thinking about you when the Jets kick the Bills' asses twice this year.  Until then, enjoy.....

What was connors #s last year?

How much does he make?

 

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3 minutes ago, Bruce Harper said:

Could you be a little more specific? Two of the “studs” on your list are Carpenter and Long. No thanks. And we know how well those Patriot linemen have done on other teams. Not convinced.

 

 

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I wouldn't have signed bell

 

Id sign morse and brown and trade for osmele... There are other lineman on that list better than what we have, especially inside. From g-g

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2 minutes ago, Peace Frog said:

Another reason to fire Mac. 

Am I doing this right?

Yes... And he gets no credit for the darnold trade. My drunk ass couldve mafe that trade for less in a coma

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6 minutes ago, Bruce Harper said:

Could you be a little more specific? Two of the “studs” on your list are Carpenter and Long. No thanks. And we know how well those Patriot linemen have done on other teams. Not convinced.

 

 

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Its a logical fallacy to presuppose patriots olineman will be bad just because some from the pats have underperformed.

Read up on your epistemology bud.

 

Similar to the usc bad qb argument

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Oh, and you say Bell represents everything the Jets have done wrong in the past. When have they ever overpaid for a free agent running back? Curtis Martin? He was one of their best players ever and made the hall of fame. Maybe it’s time to slink back too that Bills message board.


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6 minutes ago, Bruce Harper said:

Oh, and you say Bell represents everything the Jets have done wrong in the past. When have they ever overpaid for a free agent running back? Curtis Martin? He was one of their best players ever and made the hall of fame. Maybe it’s time to slink back too that Bills message board.


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Who was the jets qb during the martin era? What was the jets record during that era?

Did u realy compare martin and bell???

 

Like i said. We wouldve been infinetly more wise using bells bling money on the oline....

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Its a logical fallacy to presuppose patriots olineman will be bad just because some from the pats have underperformed.
Read up on your epistemology bud.
 
Similar to the usc bad qb argument

We will see if the Raiders will get their money’s worth out of Trent Brown. I think not.


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9 minutes ago, MCGAHEE2121 said:

I wouldn't have signed bell

 

Id sign morse and brown and trade for osmele... There are other lineman on that list better than what we have, especially inside. From g-g

Let's get this straight.  Your "proposition" would be to build this all star Offensive Line featuring Morse, Trent Brown, and Osmele.  Then behind this awesome line, your  "master stroke", would be to trot out a backfield featuring Eli McGuire, DeAngelo Henderson, and Jalin Moore.  Brilliant.  And you have the audacity to call the Jets front office stupid?  Have another drink....

Please list former  Patriot Offensive Linemen who have excelled elsewhere.  I can't really think of any, can you??

James Connor [not Connors] had a fine season last year.  He also got hurt.  We'll see how he does going forward.  He's no LeVeon Bell, that much is for sure.

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Who was the jets qb during the martin era? What was the jets record during that era?

Did u realy compare martin and bell???

 

Like i said. We wouldve been infinetly more wise using bells bling money on the oline....

No. I thought that you did. But for what it’s worth, Martin said Bell is more talented than he was.

 

And the Jets made the playoffs four times with Martin, including a conference championship game, in case you forgot.

 

 

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1 minute ago, joenamathwouldn'tcry said:

Let's get this straight.  Your "proposition" would be to build this all star Offensive Line featuring Morse, Trent Brown, and Osmele.  Then behind this awesome line, your  "master stroke", would be to trot out a backfield featuring Eli McGuire, DeAngelo Henderson, and Jalin Moore.  Brilliant.  And you have the audacity to call the Jets front office stupid?  Have another drink....

Please list former  Patriot Offensive Linemen who have excelled elsewhere.  I can't really think of any, can you??

James Connor [not Connors] had a fine season last year.  He also got hurt.  We'll see how he does going forward.  He's no LeVeon Bell, that much is for sure.

When danny woodhead and rex burkhead run through giant holes.... Yes 

Yes we are stupid

 

Again its a logical fallacy with pats olineman underperforming... Learn to read tje whole thread genius

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2 minutes ago, Bruce Harper said:

No. I thought that you did. But for what it’s worth, Martin said Bell is more talented than he was.

 

And the Jets made the playoffs four times with Martin, including a conference championship game, in case you forgot.

 

 

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So we never won anything except one yr in 98 when our qb play was the best in franchise history arguably

 

Really man??

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4 minutes ago, Bruce Harper said:

No. I thought that you did. But for what it’s worth, Martin said Bell is more talented than he was.

 

And the Jets made the playoffs four times with Martin, including a conference championship game, in case you forgot.

 

 

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What else would martin say

 

Did the iq drop a standard deviation here wtf

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1 hour ago, MCGAHEE2121 said:

Try again jackass

I love when brand new posters give themselves a reason to be banned. It’s like the message board form of natural selection. 

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36 minutes ago, joenamathwouldn'tcry said:

  He is also unique in his running style.  He picks holes created in the flow of the play.  He does not depend on holes created by the offensive linemen.

I don't get this point. I think patient guys who wait for the hole like him, need a good OL to open up that hole. It seems like a guy who runs with his style, with a bad OL, will take a lot of runs for losses. Better off a guy who hits the hole quickly, even if there is none, cause maybe for a second a hole will open up and he'll burst rhrough.... I don't know, I guess we'll see what happens.

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24 minutes ago, MCGAHEE2121 said:

When danny woodhead and rex burkhead run through giant holes.... Yes 

Yes we are stupid

 

Again its a logical fallacy with pats olineman underperforming... Learn to read tje whole thread genius

I read the "whole thread", genius.  Please learn how to spell three letter words before you disparage the intelligence of others..  So, now the conversation shifts it's focus to Danny Woodhead and Rex Burkhead running through giant holes?   OK, I'll play.... 

Tell me "Einstein", what is the Patriocheats offense predicated on?  That's right.  Short quick passes to slot receivers, and tight ends.  The "giant holes" that these running backs go through, are the result of the off balanced defense created by the quick passes featured in the Brady/Bellicheat Offense.  In other words they are a by product of the passing game.  They are not the result of a superior, dominating offensive line.

Good job, you made the argument.  For the position that the Patriocheats Offensive Linemen don't have to be very good.  Congratulations.

A little advice.  Stop throwing around terms like "epistemology", when you can't spell people's names, or spell words like "the", or is it "tje"?  It makes you look even more stupid.  Now go have another drink, and perhaps work on your grammar, spelling and football knowledge.  And stop using the phrase "we" if you choose to discuss the Jets or their fans.

You are not one of us.  That is the only point that you've proven here tonight.  I'm done.  Happy trolling, jerkoff.....

 

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4 minutes ago, roscoeword said:

I don't get this point. I think patient guys who wait for the hole like him, need a good OL to open up that hole. It seems like a guy who runs with his style, with a bad OL, will take a lot of runs for losses. Better off a guy who hits the hole quickly, even if there is none, cause maybe for a second a hole will open up and he'll burst rhrough.... I don't know, I guess we'll see what happens.

I think you are all overthinking this tbh.

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30 minutes ago, MCGAHEE2121 said:

The original premise was the idiocy of the signing.

 

So youre wrong there...

The gurley contract and was way above bells in guaranteed money. So they did lowball him. So youre second pt is wrong.

The jets paid more in guaranteed money and overall ( its 61 mil/4yrs). So ypur 3rd pt is wrong.

 

All this is moot as i already stated because AGAIN the syeelers didnt sign him. The idiotic jets did which was my original point. Good lord get it together

The original premise of our “discussion”, which began as I said with the post of yours I originally quoted, was that the Steelers never offered Bell a long term contract. That’s been the entire whole of our conversation. I could go into your first post here, which is similarly flawed, but others have already done that and frankly it’s pretty clear that you aren’t here in good faith so I’m not sure what the point is.

Moving on, just because they didn’t offer him the most guaranteed money of any RB does not mean that they lowballed him. Obviously Bell thought he could get more on the open market. He couldn’t. So the Steelers offer to him was actually more than the rest of the market offered him. It’s a pretty simple concept.

As for the contract details, it’s only 4/61 if he hits every incentive in his deal, which includes winning league MVP. If Bell wins the league MVP 4 times, I think even you would agree the signing was far from a mistake. So let’s stick with the more likely number, which is 4/52, with 26 guaranteed, all in the first two years. Again, the Steelers offer was 5/70, with 33 guaranteed.

The one thing you are right about is that this is moot. The whole conversation is premised on the idea that the Steelers never tried to sign Bell long term when they clearly did.

There’s legitimate reasons to dislike the Bell signing. The Steelers letting him go isn’t one of them, but by all means continue doubling down.

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4 minutes ago, roscoeword said:

I don't get this point. I think patient guys who wait for the hole like him, need a good OL to open up that hole. It seems like a guy who runs with his style, with a bad OL, will take a lot of runs for losses. Better off a guy who hits the hole quickly, even if there is none, cause maybe for a second a hole will open up and he'll burst rhrough.... I don't know, I guess we'll see what happens.

The point is Roscoe, Bell finds his holes within the flow of the play, not some predetermined space that is necessarily created through a blocking scheme. 

His patience, his talent, allows him to wait and choose where and when to go.  It is just as likely that he will make a gain on a failed block, by running behind it, as he would on a successful block creating a hole.

Don't get me wrong, he does hit the hole if it is there.  What makes him different is that when it's not there, he has the vision, patience and ability to pick his way through, without running into the defense.

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3 minutes ago, jvill 51 said:

The original premise of our “discussion”, which began as I said with the post of yours I originally quoted, was that the Steelers never offered Bell a long term contract. That’s been the entire whole of our conversation. I could go into your first post here, which is similarly flawed, but others have already done that and frankly it’s pretty clear that you aren’t here in good faith so I’m not sure what the point is.

Moving on, just because they didn’t offer him the most guaranteed money of any RB does not mean that they lowballed him. Obviously Bell thought he could get more on the open market. He couldn’t. So the Steelers offer to him was actually more than the rest of the market offered him. It’s a pretty simple concept.

As for the contract details, it’s only 4/61 if he hits every incentive in his deal, which includes winning league MVP. If Bell wins the league MVP 4 times, I think even you would agree the signing was far from a mistake. So let’s stick with the more likely number, which is 4/52, with 26 guaranteed, all in the first two years. Again, the Steelers offer was 5/70, with 33 guaranteed.

The one thing you are right about is that this is moot. The whole conversation is premised on the idea that the Steelers never tried to sign Bell long term when they clearly did.

There’s legitimate reasons to dislike the Bell signing. The Steelers letting him go isn’t one of them, but by all means continue doubling down.

Connors stats?

Connors salary?

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9 minutes ago, joenamathwouldn'tcry said:

I read the "whole thread", genius.  Please learn how to spell three letter words before you disparage the intelligence of others..  So, now the conversation shifts it's focus to Danny Woodhead and Rex Burkhead running through giant holes?   OK, I'll play.... 

Tell me "Einstein", what is the Patriocheats offense predicated on?  That's right.  Short quick passes to slot receivers, and tight ends.  The "giant holes" that these running backs go through, are the result of the off balanced defense created by the quick passes featured in the Brady/Bellicheat Offense.  In other words they are a by product of the passing game.  They are not the result of a superior, dominating offensive line.

Good job, you made the argument.  For the position that the Patriocheats Offensive Linemen don't have to be very good.  Congratulations.

A little advice.  Stop throwing around terms like "epistemology", when you can't spell people's names, or spell words like "the", or is it "tje".  It makes you look even more stupid.  Now go have another drink, and perhaps work on your grammar, spelling and football knowledge.  And stop using the phrase "we" if you choose to discuss the Jets or their fans.

You are not one of us.  That is the only point that you've proven here tonight.  I'm done.  Happy trolling, jerkoff.....

 

lol insecure

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So we never won anything except one yr in 98 when our qb play was the best in franchise history arguably
 
Really man??

I don’t understand your point. And why are you pretending to be a Jets fan?


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2 hours ago, MCGAHEE2121 said:

What was connors #s last year?

How much does he make?

 

Better than McCoys

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1 hour ago, MCGAHEE2121 said:

lol insecure

A Bills fan trolling a Jets board to feel better about his players calling others insecure.

We've hit the deep level of irony.

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14 minutes ago, Mogglez said:

A Bills fan trolling a Jets board to feel better about his players calling others insecure.

We've hit the deep level of irony.

Huh

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5 minutes ago, MCGAHEE2121 said:

So im right?

No, you're a troll.

Bells better than Conner, both are better than McCoy. 

One playoff beatdown in 20 years has melted whatever sense was in your head

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I miss the pre-Internet days when a hot take like this would result in a handful of peanuts thrown at your head down at the local sports bar.

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7 hours ago, MCGAHEE2121 said:

Its a logical fallacy to presuppose patriots olineman will be bad just because some from the pats have underperformed.

Read up on your epistemology bud.

 

Similar to the usc bad qb argument

Well he did use epistemology in a sentence. Must be a Philosophy major..

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9 hours ago, MCGAHEE2121 said:

Its obvious the nfl has moved to rb by committee for obvious reason. Short career. The position has the highest injury risk. And the position is overly dependent on oline competency and quality qb play to take the 8th man out of the box. What do the jets do??? The pay 60 million to a rb ( where most plateau at 27-28 and ) , and not only that. They pick the biggest asshat and selfish cancer they can find in bell. 

 

You would think after getting millions after sitting out you'd want to be a leader ,meet your teammates and just do the normal damn thing... Nope he gives the finger to the jets and our joke of a gm...

 

We could have signed a couple more stud olineman but nope. Just like passing on marino and sapp we find a way to avoid common sense. Mark my words the obj trade and bell singing will be a disaster.

 

We just dont " get it" 

Why don’t you post on a Bills site instead of acting like an ass whole here.

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