jvill 51 Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 The only RB worth a top 10 pick last year was Saquon, so no. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 6 minutes ago, MCGAHEE2121 said: I hope you're right. It clearly doesn't look that way... I can see Allen as the best qb by far in 3 yrs. In the whole nfl It clearly does look that way. Otherwise, I wouldn’t of had anything to say. Otherwise, I wouldn’t of had legit stats to post. Sam Darnold, by far, outplayed Josh Allen. Josh Allen panics and throws wobblers or he scrambles when he’s pressured. Darnold goes through every progression, moves around in the pocket, re-adjusts his body position and throws strikes. they are not the same breed of QB. Being able to throw far or being athletic doesn’t make you a top QB. Ask Jamarcus Russell. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Harper Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 I hope you're right. It clearly doesn't look that way... I can see Allen as the best qb by far in 3 yrs. In the whole nflRoflmao. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 1 hour ago, MCGAHEE2121 said: Mel kiper and Michael Robinson... find me where either said that after the season they see Allen as the better player. Not where Kiper, who's not close to being an expert, thought they would be drafted, he said he thought the Bills would trade up for Allen. He also had Darnold as his best QB talent wise. Two different things Michael Robinson isnt an expert, hes a talking head on NFLN NYUP.COM (DUH) NFL: Michael Robinson: QB Kyle Lauletta May Be The Best QB Of This Class Josh Allen will win most games among 2018 Round 1 QBs; lead Buffalo Bills to playoffs, says Michael Robinson 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJF71 Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 48 minutes ago, MCGAHEE2121 said: Did u actually watch the games? Allen was way more accurate. Darnold was captain checkdown. I like darnold and his proficiency but he screams ordinary Allen looks elite. Almost trevor lawrence like but was from a smaller school Allen was 52.8% completion vs Darnolds 57.7%. That means Darnold was more accurate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJF71 Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 12 minutes ago, MCGAHEE2121 said: I hope you're right. It clearly doesn't look that way... I can see Allen as the best qb by far in 3 yrs. In the whole nfl Dumbest post of all your 38 posts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCGAHEE2121 Posted May 15, 2019 Author Share Posted May 15, 2019 10 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said: It clearly does look that way. Otherwise, I wouldn’t of had anything to say. Otherwise, I wouldn’t of had legit stats to post. Sam Darnold, by far, outplayed Josh Allen. Josh Allen panics and throws wobblers or he scrambles when he’s pressured. Darnold goes through every progression, moves around in the pocket, re-adjusts his body position and throws strikes. they are not the same breed of QB. Being able to throw far or being athletic doesn’t make you a top QB. Ask Jamarcus Russell. Allen is more accurate, has infinite more upside, stronger arm, much better poise. Darnold is more polished. But from a pure eye ball test of qb play from the pocket, its not even close. I hope I'm wrong but I just see no comparison. It was clear as day when they played each other 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCGAHEE2121 Posted May 15, 2019 Author Share Posted May 15, 2019 Allen is more cerebral too 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCGAHEE2121 Posted May 15, 2019 Author Share Posted May 15, 2019 8 minutes ago, DJF71 said: Allen was 52.8% completion vs Darnolds 57.7%. That means Darnold was more accurate. Good lord you're retarded 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 1 minute ago, MCGAHEE2121 said: Allen is more accurate, has infinite more upside, stronger arm, much better poise. Darnold is more polished. But from a pure eye ball test of qb play from the pocket, its not even close. I hope I'm wrong but I just see no comparison. It was clear as day when they played each other How is Allen more accurate when his stats literally tell you that he isn’t more accurate? infinite upside? Who are you? Todd McShay? Lol I hate the word upside. It means NOTHING. People use the word upside when you aren’t good enough at football to match your athletic ability to play football. much better poise? Dude...he throws an interception and it turns into two. Then it turns into 3. Darnold has thrown picks and then went on to win a game by throwing two touchdowns and nearly 80% you aren't making any sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, MCGAHEE2121 said: Allen is more cerebral too Jesus Christ lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 3 hours ago, MCGAHEE2121 said: Did u actually watch the games? Allen was way more accurate. Darnold was captain checkdown. I like darnold and his proficiency but he screams ordinary Allen looks elite. Almost trevor lawrence like but was from a smaller school Did you really just vote for your own laughably horrendous post for post of the week? Allen more accurate than Darnold? Looks "elite"? LOL. Oh man this is gonna be fun. Also, if you're gonna troll as a buffalo bills fan, you might not wanna pick the name of an old Bills RB. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCGAHEE2121 Posted May 15, 2019 Author Share Posted May 15, 2019 11 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said: How is Allen more accurate when his stats literally tell you that he isn’t more accurate? infinite upside? Who are you? Todd McShay? Lol I hate the word upside. It means NOTHING. People use the word upside when you aren’t good enough at football to match your athletic ability to play football. much better poise? Dude...he throws an interception and it turns into two. Then it turns into 3. Darnold has thrown picks and then went on to win a game by throwing two touchdowns and nearly 80% you aren't making any sense. Comp % does on t equal accuracy Allen has more poise and isn't afraid of hanging in the pocket Darnold constantly had happy feet and would check it down... Either you're blind or an idiot. Allen seriously looks like elway. Darnold looks like a Fitzpatrick turnover machine. Allen is clearly more talented Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 8 minutes ago, MCGAHEE2121 said: Comp % does on t equal accuracy Allen has more poise and isn't afraid of hanging in the pocket Darnold constantly had happy feet and would check it down... Either you're blind or an idiot. Allen seriously looks like elway. Darnold looks like a Fitzpatrick turnover machine. Allen is clearly more talented Yeah it’s probably time for you to go. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 28 minutes ago, MCGAHEE2121 said: Allen is more accurate, has infinite more upside, stronger arm, much better poise. Darnold is more polished. But from a pure eye ball test of qb play from the pocket, its not even close. I hope I'm wrong but I just see no comparison. It was clear as day when they played each other Josh Allen had a QB rating of 44.4 when he played Sam Darnold this year. 44.4 44 .4. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 10 minutes ago, MCGAHEE2121 said: Comp % does on t equal accuracy Allen has more poise and isn't afraid of hanging in the pocket Darnold constantly had happy feet and would check it down... Either you're blind or an idiot. Allen seriously looks like elway. Darnold looks like a Fitzpatrick turnover machine. Allen is clearly more talented Hahahahahahahahahaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, Mogglez said: Josh Allen had a QB rating of 44.4 when he played Sam Darnold this year. 44.4 44 .4. I mean, I’m still trying to figure out how completion % doesn’t have anything to do with accuracy. its like you can just say things and they are right because you said them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 1 minute ago, Patriot Killa said: I mean, I’m still trying to figure out how completion % doesn’t have anything to do with accuracy. I remember when all the Josh Allen fans here said the same thing when they were telling everyone that he would be more accurate in the NFL. Then he put together a Tim Tebow esque rookie year and they were nowhere to be found. Hmm. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 Josh Allen threw for less touchdowns and passing yards than Mark Sanchez.??♂️ Let that sink in. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 Just now, Patriot Killa said: Josh Allen threw for less touchdowns and passing yards than Mark Sanchez.??♂️ Let that sink in. But he can run tho. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 18 minutes ago, MCGAHEE2121 said: Comp % does on t equal accuracy Allen has more poise and isn't afraid of hanging in the pocket Darnold constantly had happy feet and would check it down... Either you're blind or an idiot. Darnold was and is known for his poise in the pocket. Allen, if he isn't running looks like a chicken without a head when rushed. The key point of the Jets v Bills game? Darnold coming back from injury and abusing the Bills along with a dumb assed int by Allen forcing a pass If you forgot, I get it, Bills fans are lacking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darnold Schwarzenegger Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Patriot Killa said: He’s trolling you all. 1 hour ago, Patriot Killa said: You seriously don’t see what’s going on here? 1 hour ago, Patriot Killa said: He just made a Quinnen Williams is a bust thread too. he’s clearly a Bills fan trying to trigger you all and hopefully you guys don’t let it work lol. its pretty weird that people gain something from this. 1 hour ago, Patriot Killa said: Josh Allen had a QB rating of 100+ only twice last year. He had more interceptions than passing TD’s and he was a running back for the majority of the year. Sam Darnold was the #1 rated QB in the final 4 games. He went over 100+ QB rating like 5-6 times. He looked like the far more polished pocket passer. He had the most 20+ yard touchdowns by any QB all year..so not sure where this “Captain Checkdown” bullsh*t comes from. Sam Darnold vs Josh Allen isn’t even a question. Who the hell is Josh Allen? The kid blows a bag of..... the only QB’s you should be comparing are Sam Darnold and Baker Mayfield. They were the two best last season. Quote It clearly does look that way. Otherwise, I wouldn’t of had anything to say. Otherwise, I wouldn’t of had legit stats to post. Sam Darnold, by far, outplayed Josh Allen. Josh Allen panics and throws wobblers or he scrambles when he’s pressured. Darnold goes through every progression, moves around in the pocket, re-adjusts his body position and throws strikes. they are not the same breed of QB. Being able to throw far or being athletic doesn’t make you a top QB. Ask Jamarcus Russell Quote How is Allen more accurate when his stats literally tell you that he isn’t more accurate? infinite upside? Who are you? Todd McShay? Lol I hate the word upside. It means NOTHING. People use the word upside when you aren’t good enough at football to match your athletic ability to play football. much better poise? Dude...he throws an interception and it turns into two. Then it turns into 3. Darnold has thrown picks and then went on to win a game by throwing two touchdowns and nearly 80% you aren't making any sense. Lol. Dude. You Saw it coming. From a mile away. And he still got you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 Just now, Darnold Schwarzenegger said: Lol. Dude. You Saw it coming. From a mile away. And he still got you. Nah I got bored and couldn’t sleep. The hell with it. Let’s go. I haven’t been on here much anyway. I need an easy win in the debate category. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 1 minute ago, Patriot Killa said: Nah I got bored and couldn’t sleep. The hell with it. Let’s go. I haven’t been on here much anyway. I need an easy win in the debate category. I just finished up finals today. I've got a nut to bust. We back baby. Bring on the trash talk with these guys. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetfan39 Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Bronxville Jets Fan said: You are the first Jets fan I have heard question whether Allen would have been a better pick then Darnold, which makes me think you’re really a trolling Bills fan. Even though Allen is faster and has a stronger arm, Darnold is still the superior prospect. Much more polished and a million times more accurate. what makes you think he is a Jet fan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, Mogglez said: I just finished up finals today. I've got a nut to bust. We back baby. Bring on the trash talk with these guys. *cracks fingers* did you know rookie Geno Smith also threw for 1,000 more yards and more touchdowns than Josh Allen did? ? Yes, two of the worst QB’s to ever play for our franchise in recent memory had better rookie years than Josh Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 5 minutes ago, Darnold Schwarzenegger said: Lol. Dude. You Saw it coming. From a mile away. And he still got you. Using that logic he got you too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said: *cracks fingers* did you know rookie Geno Smith also threw for 1,000 more yards and more touchdowns than Josh Allen did? ? Yes, two of the worst QB’s to ever play for our franchise in recent memory had better rookie years than Josh Allen And who says facts can't be fun? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 1 minute ago, Mogglez said: And who says facts can't be fun? This is the part where he hits us with the... ”Well it’s not about how you start, it’s about how you finish.” well, sir, I don’t fancy the chances that it’s going to finish much better than it started.? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCGAHEE2121 Posted May 15, 2019 Author Share Posted May 15, 2019 16 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said: I mean, I’m still trying to figure out how completion % doesn’t have anything to do with accuracy. its like you can just say things and they are right because you said them. Because you can check it down a million times like darnold and have 70% comp % Or you could throw a sh*t tons of passes past 15 yds like allen but be at 55% Or you could be proficient in a west coast offense and hit 70 % but it would be more indicative of proficiency and reading a defense Or it can be a combination This is why you have to eatch the game Not just quote stats like an idiot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCGAHEE2121 Posted May 15, 2019 Author Share Posted May 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said: This is the part where he hits us with the... ”Well it’s not about how you start, it’s about how you finish.” well, sir, I don’t fancy the chances that it’s going to finish much better than it started.? He has started better than darnold unless youre blind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said: This is the part where he hits us with the... ”Well it’s not about how you start, it’s about how you finish.” well, sir, I don’t fancy the chances that it’s going to finish much better than it started.? More tape on a QB that struggles with passing the football but can scramble has always worked out well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCGAHEE2121 Posted May 15, 2019 Author Share Posted May 15, 2019 I wouldnt trade allen for any current qb. No effin way. I wish we had him baddd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCGAHEE2121 Posted May 15, 2019 Author Share Posted May 15, 2019 Just now, Mogglez said: More tape on a QB that struggles with passing the football but can scramble has always worked out well. Huh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 7 minutes ago, MCGAHEE2121 said: Because you can check it down a million times like darnold and have 70% comp % Or you could throw a sh*t tons of passes past 15 yds like allen but be at 55% Or you could be proficient in a west coast offense and hit 70 % but it would be more indicative of proficiency and reading a defense Or it can be a combination This is why you have to eatch the game Not just quote stats like an idiot Hey Rain Man, Guess which QB had the higher YPA. Also, Allen didn't even hit 55%. He was at 52.8%. I thought you said that Google was your friend? You calling someone an idiot. Ironic. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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