RutgersJetFan 93,005 #386 Posted May 15, 2019 4 minutes ago, T0mShane said: They’re not theories once they’re proven, Doug. I am a conspiracy positivist Fun side note, this is the ad that popped up right below your post on my phone. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jetsfan80 119,142 #387 Posted May 15, 2019 1 minute ago, Rangers9 said: Gase didn’t show up on draft day. And why every time you see him speak does he pull his cap all the way down so you can barely see the guy. Btw if not for Macc no Darnold. If not for the Vikings, our QB is Kirk Cousins. For more money than the Vikings ended up paying him, too. Only Macc's own incompetence in building the roster prevented this from being our fate. 5 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Villain The Foe 11,261 #388 Posted May 15, 2019 May 10th 2018 Adam Gase said to the media in a presser: "Where does all this talk come from, it really angers me". Regarding possible changes at GM 5 days later.... May 15th 2018 CEO Chris Johnson fires GM Mike Maccagnan, with Adam Gas as the acting GM. lol 1 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fantasy Island 3,622 #389 Posted May 15, 2019 "Mac, you will get the GOT treatment, oh yes, you will." 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MasterChiefJets 399 #390 Posted May 15, 2019 This could also mean that Gase is safe after this year unless there is a total collapse. All he has to do is blame Mac for not giving him the pieces to win. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matt39 42,407 #391 Posted May 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, Scott Dierking said: The transparency you wanted was not going to come, for obvious reasons. And still won't. Unfortunately you are right. Nothing against them, but I can’t imagine paying to be a season ticket holder with this ownership. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CTM 148,742 #392 Posted May 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, nico002 said: Really? Seems like a pretty damn specific report for it to be an unsourced take... I edited my post to indicate that yes one of these initial reports could be true but note it was pretty different from what T0m said Cimini reported Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slats 108,911 #393 Posted May 15, 2019 1 minute ago, Augustiniak said: could well be, but then why get rid of heimdinger unless 1) cj never loved him or 2) gase has been lobbying for his own gm choice and cj just decided that instead of keeping part of the political bs he may as well start fresh with a new gm and hc. Could be that Heimerdinger, instead of vying for the GM job, has a loyalty to Mac. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jolot 1,953 #394 Posted May 15, 2019 6 minutes ago, Bruce Harper said: Who the hell cares what Manish thinks. How long can you keep a guy around who is that bad at drafting? He's just pissed because it was the first time ever anyone on the inside would talk to him. Now he can go back to bashing their every move. Agreed , people need to be reminded sometimes , beat reporters aren’t Jet fans ..they’re allegiance is to access and information...they have zero interest in wins and losses . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDL_JET 9,928 #395 Posted May 15, 2019 So basically Mac was hatin on Hermeindeger being better then him. Causing problems. So stupid to get rid of him too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jetsfan80 119,142 #396 Posted May 15, 2019 4 minutes ago, RSJ said: As opposed to what anyone has done. Yes the Johnsons have been further as owners than Gase has as a HC though. Further at what? 1 division title? A total of 5 seasons with 10+ wins out of 19 seasons? 1 home playoff game in two decades? Yeah, I'll take my chances with Emperor Gase, thanks. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scott Dierking 134,595 #397 Posted May 15, 2019 1 minute ago, MasterChiefJets said: This could also mean that Gase is safe after this year unless there is a total collapse. All he has to do is blame Mac for not giving him the pieces to win. Right now, they are flying without a flight plan. All bets are off. Buckle your seatbelts. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Augustiniak 7,513 #398 Posted May 15, 2019 Just now, slats said: Could be that Heimerdinger, instead of vying for the GM job, has a loyalty to Mac. perhaps but if heimerdinger were offered the gm job he'd take it, and mccags would understand, that's just business. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bless you....Thank you 176 #399 Posted May 15, 2019 Brian Costello was just on with joe and mac. Basically said he was lied to by multiple sources within the jets organization and is not going to use them as sources going forward this rat organization. 🐀 1 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joewilly12 23,458 #400 Posted May 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, slats said: Could be that Heimerdinger, instead of vying for the GM job, has a loyalty to Mac. Who knows what decisions these two were part of. CLEAN HOUSE start fresh is the best way. Maybe Macc and Heimer were pissed we fired Todd Bowles. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nyjets1969 144 #401 Posted May 15, 2019 YES! thank you wish they did it 2 years ago this guy ruined the Jets 5 years of worthless drafts that netted this team a total of 4 players all players that fell to him. Only gripe should have happened sooner. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike135 4,732 #402 Posted May 15, 2019 At least we're keeping things stable and consistent for our young franchise QB. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joewilly12 23,458 #403 Posted May 15, 2019 Lets see if MM lands another NFL job. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scott Dierking 134,595 #404 Posted May 15, 2019 11 minutes ago, nico002 said: UPDATES latest reports - Adam Gase did not know this am this was happening - Rumor is the rift that something “went down” between Heimidinger and Maccagnan which caused Johnson to act to end dysfunction - Gase does NOT want this on his plate. He is focused on developing Sam, just moved his family here, had nothing to do with this. Or, these could be planted stories by the Jets to shelter Gase to some degree. You just never know where the splatter lands or whom it will hit in this org. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jetsfan80 119,142 #405 Posted May 15, 2019 4 minutes ago, Fantasy Island said: "Mac, you will get the GOT treatment, oh yes, you will." For each of these 2 men, their final 3 seasons were terrible, with the final one being particularly pathetic. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bugg 44,567 #406 Posted May 15, 2019 8 minutes ago, Sperm Edwards said: Could be the DC/son stuff, and at that point they couldn't go on a GM search in March so they just let it go through the draft. You don't hire a HC and say here's your force-fed DC, and then the DC says here's another force-fed coach because he's the DC's son. Honestly I think that was the last straw for Gase, and the worst offense. You make a guy the HC he gets to pick his own staff or don't bother hiring him. Just took this long for him to wear down Chris Johnson, who probably hoped things would smooth out for a while at least with the draft over. I also don't think Gase is as thrilled with the OL as the GM was. Osemele was a fine addition, but the line isn't good overall. They're starting a backup center and next year both tackles are UFAs. The biggest splashes in FA went to the defense even after hiring an offensive-minded HC (not just Mosely, but don't forget the 2nd-biggest splash was to be Barr not Bell, and it's possible there is no Bell if the Barr signing went through). Like Anderson. But between the Williamses and Anderson, you are spending an awful lot of cap room on DTs. And not nearly so much on the OL. When you consider Tru Johnson, Adams and Maye and the legion of other DBS Coffee Boy has amassed, that is a ridiculous misallocation of resources. Said it over and over; DBs aren DL guys who do not get to the QB are overhead in 2019. Yet this idiot devoted the bulk of his chips to those groups. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Augustiniak 7,513 #407 Posted May 15, 2019 1 minute ago, Bless you....Thank you said: Brian Costello was just on with joe and mac. Basically said he was lied to by multiple sources within the jets organization and is not going to use them as sources going forward this rat organization. 🐀 still better than when rex was here and there were leaks galore. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nixhead 1,969 #408 Posted May 15, 2019 I don't know what to think about this team anymore. Well on the bright side things can't get any worse than they already are. We have nowhere to go but up! 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jolot 1,953 #409 Posted May 15, 2019 10 minutes ago, RSJ said: Literally nothing Gase has done qualifies him as the smartest man in any room. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app He went with the baseball cap instead of the combover ...that’s pretty smart . 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CrazyCarl40 53,110 #410 Posted May 15, 2019 I just don’t understand what Adam Gase has done in his career to have full control (he’s definitely going to have a massive voice in the GM hiring)? He just got fired from a rival and his players disliked him. This should have been done after the season with a real GM brought in to hire a coach. This organization is maddening. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jetsfan80 119,142 #411 Posted May 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, Scott Dierking said: Right now, they are flying without a flight plan. All bets are off. Buckle your seatbelts. The plan is to hire Joe Douglas. A much more sound plan than the Johnson's have had for the last two decades. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rangers9 1,921 #412 Posted May 15, 2019 5 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: If not for the Vikings, our QB is Kirk Cousins. For more money than the Vikings ended up paying him, too. Only Macc's own incompetence in building the roster prevented this from being our fate. That’s a good point. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jetsons 2,213 #413 Posted May 15, 2019 8 minutes ago, Integrity28 said: We lost Heimerdinger in this? yes Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MasterChiefJets 399 #414 Posted May 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, Scott Dierking said: Right now, they are flying without a flight plan. All bets are off. Buckle your seatbelts. I drink to that. This is gonna be fun. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scoop24 4,529 #415 Posted May 15, 2019 I honestly don’t care Macc got fired . But this Gase power play is ridiculous. He hasn’t earn the right to have this kinda power .. so as far as I’m concerned everything from now on good or bad falls on gase . I don’t even care who they hire as a GM. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tdoublee 496 #416 Posted May 15, 2019 Is there anyone out there that could be a Coach/GM for us? I'd love to demote Gase to OC right about now after this sh*t show. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spoot-Face 24,143 #417 Posted May 15, 2019 35 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Cimini on 1050 spilling all the tea. HOO BOY. Highlights: —Chris Johnson wanted Gase and got Maccagnan to go along with it, and they spun it to make it sound like Macc was more involved in the hire than he was. —Gase DID NOT WANT Gregg Williams. —Gase wanted the Browns job to the point that Peyton Manning called the Browns first. Jets were the fallback. My initial thought is, why is Cimini waiting until now to spill this? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jetsfan80 119,142 #418 Posted May 15, 2019 I've wanted a VP of Personnel here for years. We kind of overshot a bit today by installing a Supreme Overlord. But I'm cool with it. Lest we forget, Palpatine had a pretty good run when he was in charge of a galaxy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rangers9 1,921 #419 Posted May 15, 2019 I was thinking Reggie McKenzie but he now works for the Fins in a personnel position. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RSJ 37,628 #420 Posted May 15, 2019 The plan is to hire Joe Douglas. A much more sound plan than the Johnson's have had for the last two decades. Hire Joe Douglas. What about the rift with Greg Williams? The fact that Gase doesnt want Bell? This is a full blown sh*t show dude.Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites