Mac fired!

[Matt39]

2 minutes ago, CTM said:

Been wondering that as well

Pure gut feeling, but it feels like a Mangini situation again with the Johnsons- and Gase may have misrepresented his personality in interviews etc and the Johsnons fell for it. Owner then panics and fires the GM to save face for the time being.

[jetstream23]

29 minutes ago, Sam_S said:

You should all kiss Tony Pauline's a$$...

Ha!  Thanks for stopping in with your second post, Tony!

 

[Jets Voice of Reason]

9 minutes ago, Paradis said:

I was right 

I’ve always been right. 

Jalen Hurd and Matt Rhule had to die for this.

[Patriot Killa]

23 minutes ago, Scoop24 said:

Lol so should we be blaming Heimindinger?

I feel like it’s a bit too late for a 114 page FIRE HEIMERDINGER thread but I’d be willing to bite the bullet for you guys.

[MasterChiefJets]

11 minutes ago, Kleckineau said:

Hey wait a sec... shouldnt we be getting some Presmal tweets?

He just lost his Assistant GM position. I'm sure he is in mourning.

[Jetsfan80]

7 minutes ago, CTM said:

And why was that? Dorsey, who is highly competent, didnt want to swap out systems on his FQB.

So a competent GM thought his first-year OC's system was better than Mike McCarthy's Super Bowl-winning system. 

Interesting. 

[Kleckineau]

He should have been fired after Bowles 3rd year. He was the mook responsible for hiring that dope wasnt he?  Lets not even mention 2 safeties taken when the team had no QB. Mahommes? Watson?

I think the NYJ have finally surpassed the Knicks as the worst run pro sports franchise in NY and possibly even the country.

[T0mShane]

9 minutes ago, slats said:

This plays into Gase not liking what the Jets paid for free agents. 

If Heimerdinger is as much of an analytics guy as has been reported, it must have made him puke to pay a running back in free agency. That's anathema to the math bros.

[Sperm Edwards]

17 minutes ago, slats said:

This plays into Gase not liking what the Jets paid for free agents. 

Also Heimerdinger coordinating the trades with other teams (including the trade for the move up to #3 for Darnold). Probably didn't care for Macc taking all the credit for it in the papers. 

Whatever, if that's the case they both had to go. Macc for the lousy drafting and draft-asset management, and both him and Heimerdinger for the lousy asset management in terms of the cap. 

Gase will get his guy, as he's the acting GM, and if they fail before turning this team around then they'll both likely get tossed together in a few years. That is, unless one is clearly so much better than the other on paper I suppose. Would be better if they just didn't suck of course. 

Whatever. New day and all.  GM and HC will have no built-in excuses to be able to blame the other. A hand-picked B, and B accepted it; and they both know each other, like each other, and presumably share philosophies. 

[Jetsfan80]

9 minutes ago, Spoot-Face said:

I thought the word was that McCarthy either wanted the Jets job, or didn't want to coach at all, and just sit at home while the Packers still pay him.

It was but I like busting @CTM's chops when the opportunity comes.  He does the same to me, only most of the time, he wins those battles.  I hate him. 

[CTM]

Just now, Jetsfan80 said:

Problem is we weren't the only team with a young FQB and cap space. 

Ugh,  you are likely a little dog herpes nat fluttering around spewing out the host organisms talking points

[Sperm Edwards]

16 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

If McCarthy wanted the Jets job, but 31 other teams didn't want McCarthy, is that really a good example of someone competent wanting the Jets job?

I'd love to coach the Jets too.  But currently, neither McCarthy nor I are football coaches of any kind. 

And "dear leader" is Gase, not T0mShane.  Keep up. 

31 other teams weren't looking for a new HC

[Jetsfan80]

Just now, CTM said:

Ugh,  you are likely a little dog herpes nat fluttering around spewing out the host organisms talking points

Again, just because I share some views with Shane doesn't make them wrong. 

[Sperm Edwards]

15 minutes ago, dbatesman said:

It's getting uncanny how many of the velcro shoe crew's talking points are being shot down

Master of the cap who gets us out of contracts after only 2 years for non-QBs, totally unlike every other GM!

I particularly used to enjoy that one.

[Jetsfan80]

1 minute ago, Sperm Edwards said:

31 other teams weren't looking for a new HC 

For sure, but there's always about 5-6, and there's some teams that are willing to fire their current coach to replace him with someone better. 

I suppose we'll see what kinds of jobs come calling for McCarthy next year.  My guess is there won't be many good ones looking for him. 

[slats]

3 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

If Heimerdinger is as much of an analytics guy as has been reported, it must have made him puke to pay a running back in free agency. That's anathema to the math bros.

Mosley's contract is twice as bad. 

[Paradis]

3 minutes ago, Jets Voice of Reason said:

Jalen Hurd and Matt Rhule had to die for this.

[Sperm Edwards]

2 minutes ago, CTM said:

Ugh,  you are likely a little dog herpes nat fluttering around spewing out the host organisms talking points

ew

and lol

[Sperm Edwards]

30 minutes ago, Scott Dierking said:

Very dangerous ground the Jets are treading on right now. 

Not that Macc was any hero, but a vacuum power void can turn this thing very toxic. And the characters that are lurking can turn things fast.

[Untouchable]

47 minutes ago, RSJ said:

 

Joe Douglas is friends with Adam Gase and brought the current Eagles GM coffee. That’s literally all we know about him.


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He’s been the main personnel guy in Philly.

Roseman is a cap guru similar to Tanny and Idzik.

[CTM]

4 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

Again, just because I share some views with Shane doesn't make them wrong. 

Some?

[Jetsfan80]

1 minute ago, CTM said:

Some?

Yes, some.  I was not a Matt Leinart or Solomon Thomas fan.  Nor do I think Idzik was anything but a lousy GM (albeit better than Macc, for sure; but that's a low bar to clear). 

[JustInFudge]

2 hours ago, Rhg1084 said:

Why let him spend $100m and draft then fire him? Backwards organization 

This franchise is un-*******-real. 

[Eaton Beaver]

 

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[Scoop24]

lol mr. voice of reason 

[Jetsfan80]

Just now, Scoop24 said:

lol mr. voice of reason 

 

Be nice to one of our top 10 TE's of all-time, lol. 

[New York Mick]

1 hour ago, Sperm Edwards said:

So we could listen to the whining about the new GM handicapped by drafting using someone else's scouts? Been there done that.

The time to do it was before the HC hiring process outright. 

Dumb as they look right now, but it'll pass as it did in Buffalo. It is a little bit funny that the HC he hired ended up getting him fired just 4 months later.

Who’s the new GM?

[CTM]

1 minute ago, Jetsfan80 said:

Yes, some.  I was not a Matt Leinart or Solomon Thomas fan.  Nor do I think Idzik was anything but a lousy GM (albeit better than Macc, for sure; but that's a low bar to clear). 

You defend this with as much tenacity as Joe's willy does homosexual claims. Me thinks we've hit a nerve.

Very good.

[Jetsfan80]

Just now, New York Mick said:

Who’s the new GM?

Probably Joe Douglas.  They wouldn't have fired Macc on a Wednesday without having something in the works already. 

[Pac]

3 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

Yes, some.  I was not a Matt Leinart or Solomon Thomas fan.  Nor do I think Idzik was anything but a lousy GM (albeit better than Macc, for sure; but that's a low bar to clear). 

Please..  you've been holding Shane's belt loop and following him around like a flea ridden mutt for years.

You and his "relationship" is one of the more grotesque things I've seen on the internet.

[varjet]

I think the Johnsons were always dubious that Mac was going to work out. 

They gave him one last chance.   They were also likely trying to save money, and also knew that better GM candidates would be available after the draft, because many out of loyalty would not want to take a new job in January having already done their scouting.  

Dorsey was also fired after the Draft.

Mac and Heimerdinger, individually or separately, did not prove to anyone that they had figured out how to build a football team.  It has been clear from the posts here and articles recently written that people were gathering up all of Mac’s screw ups in an easily readable place.  

I think if the Johnsons were going to keep the FO around through this year, they should have had Mac/BH on a much tighter leash.   It’s one thing to not overpay for players, but if I am going to overpay for a player I overpay for OL and not DL and ILB.    

It was clear to me that Mac was going to get fired, but I assumed in January after the Jets finished 7-9.  Firing him now, and bringing in capable others, is a good thing.

The piece of news that disturbs me most, if true, is hearing how Gase did not want Williams.  Hopefully they get that figured out.  

[maury77]

Perhaps they were waiting for some under the table confirmation that this Douglas guy could get out of his contract and take the job.

I absolutely think Douglas is a done deal.


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[Jetsfan80]

Just now, CTM said:

You defend this with as much tenacity as Joe's willy does homosexual claims. Me thinks we've hit a nerve.

Very good.

Joe Willy spends his days posting shirtless men, I used to post pics of nearly shirtless women.  Decent comparison I suppose. 

[JustInFudge]

This was so ******* obvious.  The level of toxicity is through the roof.  Wonder how this impacts the coaching staff.  Sounds like dudes were forced down Gase's throat.  lmfao.

The only downside is we dont get to see the sideline meltdown that carried into the locker room to jump Mac.

 

[jeremy2020]

13 minutes ago, MasterChiefJets said:

He just lost his Assistant GM position. I'm sure he is in mourning.

Did you ever think he might be promoted?