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2 minutes ago, Rhg1084 said:

How is an interim gm allowed to make major moves 

Major move? Lee is bad. 

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1 minute ago, Chrebetfan80 said:

Not sure how this is a great move other than everyone just hates lee? 

Cheifs traded a 4th for Reggie Ragland.. is Reggie ragland that much better than lee? Personally, I dont think so, and I’m not even a fan of lee to begin with

Yeah he is much better

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1 minute ago, Joe W. Namath said:

Leo is as good as gone.

Robbie Anderson isnt going anywhere.  Hes our best offensive player.  Although he is a dope in the offseason, i think hes all business when hes in the building.

Bell and Crowder are better

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Just now, T0mShane said:

I'm just thinking of guys that Maccagnan would re-sign to save face that Gase has no attachment to. If Gase has a vision about what he wants this roster to look like and he's got a week to move some pieces around, this is his chance to do it without getting blood on the hands of Joe Douglas.

Leo getting traded is like 75% after they drafted Quinnen. But I think that it'll be for a player. Maybe a CB or Center. The chances of Anderson getting traded are 50/50. I think that would be for a pick.

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1 minute ago, T0mShane said:

If this is true, 1. Imagine holding on to a malcontent player for months because you want a fifth rounder and not a sixth. And, 2. Gives you an idea of how paralyzed Maccagnan would be on draft day when trade offers are being presented to him and he has five minutes to decide on them. Allegedly, that's how they lost out on a Kamara trade, because Macc couldn't pull the trigger.

Maybe the indecision is what CJ saw in Macc that made him ultimately make the move

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13 minutes ago, CurtMart said:

This is possibly the worse first trade a GM has ever made, giving away a young player with potential for peanuts while he’s making under 2mil. Would’ve gotten much more back after next year as comp pick. Game could not have started any worse imo. Get your GM fired, trade an asset for nothing, pretty much hating the idea of having Bell as your bellcow, not being a part of the draft, and those baffling looks in his intro presser. 

They wouldn't have gotten a comp pick for him next year since he wouldn't have played much if he remained on the team. They got a 6th for a player they would've cut before camp.

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Just now, CurtMart said:

Would’ve been a good insurance policy at the very least. It’s not like we saved cap $. He wasn’t making much. 

They saved $1.8 million and got a pick. That's not nothing. The Eagles just signed a starting Center/Guard Wisniewski for less than that.

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4 minutes ago, CurtMart said:

He’s still 24 so my guess is, you don’t know what “a young player with potential” means. 

Just bc you're young doesn't mean you have potential.

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2 hours ago, Sperm Edwards said:

Osemele is a 30 year-old (or he will be next month) who makes $10M this year and $12M the year after, coming off a bad season for him.

Lee is a physically healthy, speedy 24 year-old who makes $2M. While still unworthy of his draft slot, he was coming off his best season, with visible improvement from year 1 to year 2 to year 3. If he has even a half-decent season this year as starter he'll get a veteran contract and the acquiring team (KC) can recoup more in a comp pick than they surrendered to get him in the first place.

It's not apples to apples.

Disappointment as he was for a 20th overall pick, he was a cheap backup player with years of starting experience, who can obviously start in a pinch should one of our 2 expensive starters go down, or show value in other defensive looks.

Maccagnan was a bad GM, but the only way this is a good trade is if it's being done to show who's the boss and have name players on their toes respecting his authority, and if it has that desired effect on the team. Or maybe if there's something even more that's wrong with Lee from the neck up that we don't know about yet. On paper Lee had more value to keep him than a late 6th rounder next season (trade value of a late 7th rounder this year, since we don't get to use that pick this season). 

The Jets will be active in FA again next year, especially with a new GM, so they won't receive any comp picks again in 2021 for Lee or anybody. If a player is on the last year of his deal and you have no plans to keep him then it makes more sense to move him now for an asset then lose him for nothing in FA. It's a pretty simple concept that pretty much every successful team utilizes. 

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It's going to get crazy here when Leo and Robbie get traded.

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2 hours ago, slats said:

The Jets have something like 20 players on one-year or the last year of their deals on the roster. Even if they're active in free agency, they could still wind up losing more free agents than they sign. If they plan on letting guys like Leo and/or Robby walk, they'll need to make sure they sign fewer free agents to make sure they get those comp picks. 

The best comp pick is basically an early 4th round pick. You shouldn't be avoiding impact free agents for a 4th round pick that is virtually worthless 80% of the time. If they are going to let Robbie and Leo walk after the year they should trade them now to guarantee an actual return for them.

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1 hour ago, kevinc855 said:

Imagine what you all been saying if Mac was the one who gave up Lee for some trash 6th rounder? 

Exactly...

We'd be talking about another waste of a draft pick by Macc just like we should be now. Gase has no attachment to any of the players Macc drafted. The gloves are off.

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