Irish Jet Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 On 3/2/2022 at 6:07 PM, Jetsfan80 said: They could have had Nicholas Cage play Batman and you’d still be making this exact post. He played Batman in Kick Ass and it was glorious. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted March 6, 2022 Share Posted March 6, 2022 Perhaps all these movies with people in literally childrens' Halloween costumes have gotten out of hand. Have not watched Marvel movies since first few Iron Man ones with Downey, but how does Benedict Cumberpatch put on the Doctor Strange wardrobe while laughing his ass off while counting his money? "Ok , how many f___in' million is that?" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maury77 Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 I really enjoyed The Batman. It covered the detective aspect of the character far better than we have ever seen on film. Its also a more vulnerable Batman who relies less on technology and is also hurt more often than we are accustomed to. Pattinson was ok, not as good as Bale or Keaton, but probably better than the others that have played the role. I thought Riddler, Selina Kyle and Turturro were excellent. Farrel is unrecognizable as Penguin, who is good but really is more of a side character in this movie. Less Alfred in the movie than I expected and I was a little underwhelmed by Jeffrey Wright (who is typically brilliant) as Jim Gordon. There is a cameo at the end that felt unnecessary and forced. Movie is long, but it never felt slow and I was generally entertained. Its not better than The Dark Night, but it is in the next tier with Batman 89 and the other 2 Nolan movies. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maury77 Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 Also, I always find the Marvel vs. DC debates amusing. Why can't you just like both? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flightattendant Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 6 hours ago, maury77 said: I really enjoyed The Batman. It covered the detective aspect of the character far better than we have ever seen on film. Its also a more vulnerable Batman who relies less on technology and is also hurt more often than we are accustomed to. Pattinson was ok, not as good as Bale or Keaton, but probably better than the others that have played the role. I thought Riddler, Selina Kyle and Turturro were excellent. Farrel is unrecognizable as Penguin, who is good but really is more of a side character in this movie. Less Alfred in the movie than I expected and I was a little underwhelmed by Jeffrey Wright (who is typically brilliant) as Jim Gordon. There is a cameo at the end that felt unnecessary and forced. Movie is long, but it never felt slow and I was generally entertained. Its not better than The Dark Night, but it is in the next tier with Batman 89 and the other 2 Nolan movies. I agree with a lot of this. I thought Wright was an awesome Jim gordon though. One thing I'll add is that while RP was a passable batman, he was god aweful as Bruce Wayne. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomebodytoAnybody47 Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 2 hours ago, Flightattendant said: I agree with a lot of this. I thought Wright was an awesome Jim gordon though. One thing I'll add is that while RP was a passable batman, he was god aweful as Bruce Wayne. I went back and forth on this. At first, I thought he was terrible as Bruce Wayne. You expect a well put together billionaire genius. He was more of a emo teenager. But as the story developed, it played off OK as a son who struggling to cope with his parents being killed, much like the mayors boy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flightattendant Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 10 minutes ago, Zachtomims47 said: I went back and forth on this. At first, I thought he was terrible as Bruce Wayne. You expect a well put together billionaire genius. He was more of a emo teenager. But as the story developed, it played off OK as a son who struggling to cope with his parents being killed, much like the mayors boy. All that is fine as far that story may go in another universe, but I've never seen Bruce Wayne portrayed as such (especially while he's already taken on the role as batman). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy 2 Times Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 Saw it today. The first third of the film had me thinking this was the greatest Batman movie ever. It started to drag a bit in the middle, but kicked back up for the final action scene. The ending definitely dragged though. Over all I really really liked it. It got so very close to me loving it, but fell short of that. It may have been the fight scenes. Batman is supposed to try and dodge the gun fire, not just walk into it over and over. Attack from the shadows, not head long into action. If he was a bit more stealthy in his approach and they cut about 30 minutes out, it's an A+ film. That being said, it's right there with TDK as the best film. 1. TDK 2. The Batman 3. Batman Begins 4. Batman 5. Batman Returns 6. DKR 7. the rest were crap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rillo Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 Didn't have high hopes for this, but damn it was good. Definitely recommend it if you're a Batman fan, you won't be disappointed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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chirorob Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 1 hour ago, RutgersJetFan said: I saw that today. That is a great scene they should have left in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 3 hours ago, chirorob said: I saw that today. That is a great scene they should have left in. I love it. The Joker has been way overdone at this point in Batman movies as the main guy. Using him as a Hannibal Lecter-type character is a great and fitting take. I hope they stick with this. Shame they didn’t leave it in. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 10 hours ago, chirorob said: I saw that today. That is a great scene they should have left in. Call me crazy, but glad they didnt. I didnt even like the cameo at the end. I just felt like this was a great time to show the story and Gotham, without Joker. He wasnt necessary. I dont think the scene added anything to the storyline, other than to say, ewwwww Joker is demented and twisted and Batman seeks his advice?!?!?! It was unnecessary to the plot, IMO and personally, I think it dilutes the detective aspects of Batman in the version. And I'm just overall confused on wtf DC is doing with Joker, 4 different Joker's have appeared that last 4 times he's been featured. Who is he? A continuation of Ledger? They quickly abandoned Leto? And what's up w/ Phoenix? Are we just getting 1 film with his version of Joker? That's a shame because IMO, that's the best movie DC has ever done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 On 9/1/2020 at 7:24 PM, Larz said: Hey check it out. Did you guys hear that Batman is different? He's dark and edgy lol I meant how many Batman movies do we need? Batman > Spider-Man This conversation just ended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 1 hour ago, JiFapono said: Call me crazy, but glad they didnt. I didnt even like the cameo at the end. I just felt like this was a great time to show the story and Gotham, without Joker. He wasnt necessary. I dont think the scene added anything to the storyline, other than to say, ewwwww Joker is demented and twisted and Batman seeks his advice?!?!?! It was unnecessary to the plot, IMO and personally, I think it dilutes the detective aspects of Batman in the version. And I'm just overall confused on wtf DC is doing with Joker, 4 different Joker's have appeared that last 4 times he's been featured. Who is he? A continuation of Ledger? They quickly abandoned Leto? And what's up w/ Phoenix? Are we just getting 1 film with his version of Joker? That's a shame because IMO, that's the best movie DC has ever done. Phoenix playing Joker was one of the most eerily compelling things I watched. Felt beyond real! Of course they screw it up, 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 1 hour ago, JiFapono said: Call me crazy, but glad they didnt. I didnt even like the cameo at the end. I just felt like this was a great time to show the story and Gotham, without Joker. He wasnt necessary. I dont think the scene added anything to the storyline, other than to say, ewwwww Joker is demented and twisted and Batman seeks his advice?!?!?! It was unnecessary to the plot, IMO and personally, I think it dilutes the detective aspects of Batman in the version. And I'm just overall confused on wtf DC is doing with Joker, 4 different Joker's have appeared that last 4 times he's been featured. Who is he? A continuation of Ledger? They quickly abandoned Leto? And what's up w/ Phoenix? Are we just getting 1 film with his version of Joker? That's a shame because IMO, that's the best movie DC has ever done. The lack of continuity hurts. They also are trying to have their DC Movie universe going, but at the same time have a Batman movie that has nothing to do with it. Probably my biggest issue with "The Batman" is Batman didn't actually do anything. He didn't stop the Riddler, he didn't catch him, he did nothing. He did probably kill a bunch of innocent drivers while chasing the Penguin though, so there's that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 1 hour ago, chirorob said: The lack of continuity hurts. They also are trying to have their DC Movie universe going, but at the same time have a Batman movie that has nothing to do with it. Probably my biggest issue with "The Batman" is Batman didn't actually do anything. He didn't stop the Riddler, he didn't catch him, he did nothing. He did probably kill a bunch of innocent drivers while chasing the Penguin though, so there's that. For sure, the continuity is weird with DC. It's like they are doing a bunch of stand alone movies while they're trying to build a universe on the side. It's weird and I've liked a lot of them, but yeah, still just disjointed. I actually really liked that Batman was largely unsuccessful in detective efforts and that Riddler was 1 step ahead. It played into the portrayal of him being such a flawed, vulnerable conflicted version of the Batman. Obviously he kind of saves the day, so to speak, so he does do that but I hear you, you're not getting the every 20 minutes Batman does something cool type of storytelling, which for me was a nice break for the norm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 1 hour ago, The Crusher said: Phoenix playing Joker was one of the most eerily compelling things I watched. Felt beyond real! Of course they screw it up, I was shook when I left the movie theatre. Shook. It took me like an hour, if not 2 to decompress. I cant remember the last time I've felt that way watching a movie. Legit, one of my favorite movies of all time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 4 minutes ago, JiFapono said: I was shook when I left the movie theatre. Shook. It took me like an hour, if not 2 to decompress. I cant remember the last time I've felt that way watching a movie. Legit, one of my favorite movies of all time. Yep, I saw it with my friend Bobby at an old run down theatre across from GMU. We left there and went to the tap house in the same complex and literally stared at each other wondering WTF we just watched. Yet, the movie felt as real as if I was there when it happen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 2 hours ago, The Crusher said: Batman > Spider-Man This conversation just ended. Yeah that didn’t age well ?. I heard it was great 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 30 minutes ago, Larz said: Yeah that didn’t age well ?. I heard it was great I haven’t seen it yet either. I grew up, likely the way you did, hoping Adam West would escape the villains ill conceived execution plan every other episode! Haha, 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 1 minute ago, The Crusher said: I haven’t seen it yet either. I grew up, likely the way you did, hoping Adam West would escape the villains ill conceived execution plan every other episode! Haha, Yup. The black and white George Reeves Superman too ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, Larz said: Yup. The black and white George Reeves Superman too ! Yeah brother. Haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 10 minutes ago, Larz said: Yup. The black and white George Reeves Superman too ! Wtf were you alive during the civil war too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 7 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said: Wtf were you alive during the civil war too ? re- runs ! I remember when UHF was an option tho ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 57 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said: Wtf were you alive during the civil war too The real test is did you ever try to see a boob on playboy channel? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 I haven't seen the movie yet, but can you tell me why was this scene cut? It is amazing. The slow reveal of Joker is great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted March 26, 2022 Share Posted March 26, 2022 4 hours ago, Dcat said: I haven't seen the movie yet, but can you tell me why was this scene cut? It is amazing. The slow reveal of Joker is great. Reeves is on record saying that he didn’t know if there would be a sequel and didn’t want to display the movie as though their would be, so he didn’t want to give the audience the impression that he was setting things up for the future. The end Joker scene was more a wink to the audience and still kept things focused on Dano, and I believe the way Reeves put it was that he wanted people to interpret it as this was a Gotham that had been around for quite some time. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy 2 Times Posted March 26, 2022 Share Posted March 26, 2022 On 3/25/2022 at 6:52 AM, JiFapono said: Call me crazy, but glad they didnt. I didnt even like the cameo at the end. I just felt like this was a great time to show the story and Gotham, without Joker. He wasnt necessary. I dont think the scene added anything to the storyline, other than to say, ewwwww Joker is demented and twisted and Batman seeks his advice?!?!?! It was unnecessary to the plot, IMO and personally, I think it dilutes the detective aspects of Batman in the version. And I'm just overall confused on wtf DC is doing with Joker, 4 different Joker's have appeared that last 4 times he's been featured. Who is he? A continuation of Ledger? They quickly abandoned Leto? And what's up w/ Phoenix? Are we just getting 1 film with his version of Joker? That's a shame because IMO, that's the best movie DC has ever done. I disliked the cameo at the end also, but I loved this deleted scene. The Lecter role feels a bit played out, but it works. Releasing it now works because it would've felt forced in the theater, not to mention adding another 5 minutes to an already way too long film. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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