Gase Continues to Tweak Jets Roster, Is Leonard Williams Safe?

[JetNation]

The dust is still setting after the firing of general manager Mike Maccagnan. Adam Gase says he doesn’t want control of the Jets roster, but after forcing Mike Maccagnan out, he is taking full advantage of the opportunity to trade and cut players while re-working the scouting department. 

Tune in to our NY Jets Podcast as our hosts Glenn Naughton and Alex Varallo talk about Adam Gase, Darron Lee and some other players that could find themselves on the way out.  Could Leonard Williams be available via trade?

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[tkiss24]

Shouldn’t be. I’m actually frightened that this year we will get like 10-12 sacks out of him, give him a long term deal then get 8-10 sacks over the next 5 years


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[Joe W. Namath]

Adam gase had to prepare for leo twice a year for 3 years.  He knows exacly what he can and cant do.

I think if someone offered a 3rd, leo would be gone in a heartbrat.  

[UnknownJetFan]

I'd have no problem trading Leo for a starting Center.

[jack48]

54 minutes ago, JetNation said:

The dust is still setting after the firing of general manager Mike Maccagnan. Adam Gase says he doesn’t want control of the Jets roster, but after forcing Mike Maccagnan out, he is taking full advantage of the opportunity to trade and cut players while re-working the scouting department. 

Tune in to our NY Jets Podcast as our hosts Glenn Naughton and Alex Varallo talk about Adam Gase, Darron Lee and some other players that could find themselves on the way out.  Could Leonard Williams be available via trade?

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That is too big.  The new GM would have to be on board

[genot]

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2788367-jarvis-landry-rips-dolphins-culture-begged-adam-gase-for-bigger-route-tree  Read the article. If you have a question about your role, your told to f... off. Real good way to build team chemistry. You might even get traded, if you have a legitimate question about your role.

[Villain The Foe]

Leo Williams should be safe. He was the best player in the 2015 draft, right?

[bealeb319]

Adam gase had to prepare for leo twice a year for 3 years.  He knows exacly what he can and cant do.
I think if someone offered a 3rd, leo would be gone in a heartbrat.  

I think you are underrateing leo

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[New York Mick]

It would be asinine to get rid of Leo for anything less then a first rounder and I still think it’s stupid. He’s a good player that could be really good with a new DC and new players on the Dline with him. 

[Wonderboy]

22 minutes ago, bealeb319 said:

I think you are underrateing leo

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True. A third for Leo?  I’d be thrilled with a 2nd but Gase could continue to remove Macc’s presence and take a 4th for The kitten.  

[Jet Nut]

7 hours ago, Joe W. Namath said:

Adam gase had to prepare for leo twice a year for 3 years.  He knows exacly what he can and cant do.

I think if someone offered a 3rd, leo would be gone in a heartbrat.  

Because you have a good handle on what Adam Gase thinks of LW.  What he had to go through, or didnt have to go through, to prepare for him.

If someone offered a third, other than you most wouldnt accept it as equal comp.  

[Jet_Engine1]

42 minutes ago, genot said:

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2788367-jarvis-landry-rips-dolphins-culture-begged-adam-gase-for-bigger-route-tree  Read the article. If you have a question about your role, your told to f... off. Real good way to build team chemistry. You might even get traded, if you have a legitimate question about your role.

Delusional, Diva WR bitches about old team. News at 11.

[genot]

2 minutes ago, Jet_Engine1 said:

Delusional, Diva WR bitches about old team. News at 11.

He didn't bitch about team. He talked about the culture Gase created at Miami. Laundry went to three pro bowls, with the Dolphins. He got shipped out because he dared talk to the Diva HC about his role in the offense. Gase is doing the same thing here. You wait. He'll be gone real quick.

[Jet_Engine1]

3 minutes ago, genot said:

He didn't bitch about team. He talked about the culture Gase created at Miami. Laundry went to three pro bowls, with the Dolphins. He got shipped out because he dared talk to the Diva HC about his role in the offense. Gase is doing the same thing here. You wait. He'll be gone real quick.

https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/nfl/miami-dolphins/article223153290.html

[Eaton Beaver]

If you look at his career stats they have declined each year, Do you really want to pay him 14 million dollars? I am certain they will probably keep him, but I would be happy to get a center or a 2nd or 3rd for him.

 

Leonard Williams   #92 DE

New York Jets | Official Team Site

Height: 6-5   Weight: 302   Age: 24

Born: 6/20/1994 Bakersfield , CA

College: USC

Experience: 5th season

High School: Mainland HS [Daytona Beach,

			Tackles					Interceptions
Year	Team	G	Comb	Total	Ast	Sck	SFTY	PDef	Int	TDs	Yds	Avg	Lng
2018	New York Jets	16	42	27	15	5.0	--	2	--	--	--	0.0	--
2017	New York Jets	16	47	22	25	2.0	--	1	1	0	6	6.0	6
2016	New York Jets	16	68	36	32	7.0	--	0	--	--	--	0.0	--
2015	New York Jets	16	63	29	34	3.0	--	0	--	--	--	0.0	--
TOTAL		64	220	114	106	17.0	0	3	1	0	6	--	6

[joewilly12]

The NY Jets cannot continue trading away former #1 draft picks like we do. 

Give him a chance with Gregg Williams as the DC and surrounded by better players. 

50 years and counting its this way for a reason. 

[Peace Frog]

1 hour ago, tkiss24 said:

Shouldn’t be. I’m actually frightened that this year we will get like 10-12 sacks out of him, give him a long term deal then get 8-10 sacks over the next 5 years


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How about he has 10-12 sacks this year and we sign him long term and he averages 12+ sacks a year for the next decade. 

He doesn’t appear to be the dog that Wilk was. 

I’d be frightened if we don’t sign him and he realizes his potential elsewhere. 

But that’s just me. 

[genot]

8 minutes ago, Jet_Engine1 said:

https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/nfl/miami-dolphins/article223153290.html

Cmon. They fizzled out, finished the season with a losing record, and Gase got canned.

[ComfortablyNumb]

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2788367-jarvis-landry-rips-dolphins-culture-begged-adam-gase-for-bigger-route-tree  Read the article. If you have a question about your role, your told to f... off. Real good way to build team chemistry. You might even get traded, if you have a legitimate question about your role.

Landry runs a 4.7 on his best day. Routes downfield aren’t his cup of tea.


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[Eaton Beaver]

32 minutes ago, New York Mick said:

It would be asinine to get rid of Leo for anything less then a first rounder and I still think it’s stupid. He’s a good player that could be really good with a new DC and new players on the Dline with him. 

What makes you think you could get a 1st round pick for Leo, he has underachieved for 4 years? If he were as good as you think there is no way they would get rid of him.

[New York Mick]

4 minutes ago, Eaton Beaver said:

What makes you think you could get a 1st round pick for Leo, he has underachieved for 4 years? If he were as good as you think there is no way they would get rid of him.

If he’s as bad as some posters think he won’t get $14 million a year.

As I’ve said 100 times. If they trade Leo they’ll need to replace him. You either get someone that cost more and is better, cost the same and is as talented or someone who sucks but is cheaper. I’d rather keep Leo this season and see how he does. He’s not a bad player. 

As for as the first goes, they won’t get a first for him but I’d rather they keep him instead of taken a crapshoot on a draft pick and hope he’s better anyway. 

[genot]

8 minutes ago, ComfortablyNumb said:

Landry runs a 4.7 on his best day. Routes downfield aren’t his cup of tea.


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Look at what he did with the Browns last year. 81 catches, and averaged more than 4 more yards a catch than he did with the Phins. Your right, he isn't the down field threat that an Anderson is,[or whoever], but to bring up wanting to do more on the outside, and basically told to get lost by the coach, and then get shipped out. It's disturbing to me.

[TNJet]

Yeah lets get rid of Leo then our Dline can still be average like last season. Quinnen is the dark horse that will help Leo get free on double teams finally. And he has a D coach not named Bowles/Rogers.

[choon328]

16 minutes ago, New York Mick said:

If he’s as bad as some posters think he won’t get $14 million a year.

As I’ve said 100 times. If they trade Leo they’ll need to replace him. You either get someone that cost more and is better, cost the same and is as talented or someone who sucks but is cheaper. I’d rather keep Leo this season and see how he does. He’s not a bad player. 

As for as the first goes, they won’t get a first for him but I’d rather they keep him instead of taken a crapshoot on a draft pick and hope he’s better anyway. 

They literally just replaced him with the 3rd pick in the draft.

[New York Mick]

7 minutes ago, choon328 said:

They literally just replaced him with the 3rd pick in the draft.

So Leo won’t be on the field the same time as  QWillaims? Is Leo his backup?

[T0mShane]

I think the right move with Leonard is to give him to Gregg Williams for the summer and let him tell you if he thinks Leonard is salvageable as a top player or if he’s simply a limited athlete with motor issues, and if there’s anyone on the roster who can play his position. If Williams thinks Leonard is a dog, then they can try and deal him. They’re playing with house money because they neither drafted him nor chose to pay him. If I’m Gase, I’m vacuuming up draft picks and dumping expensive Maccagnan players. 

[jetstream23]

4 hours ago, tkiss24 said:

Shouldn’t be. I’m actually frightened that this year we will get like 10-12 sacks out of him, give him a long term deal then get 8-10 sacks over the next 5 years


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If we get 10-12 sacks out of him then I'd franchise tag him for 2020, and then potentially look at trading him.  Even though this just seems like the Jetsiest thing ever, drafting an excellent DT and watching him get 10 sacks, then trading him at the ripe old age of 25 or 26, I could probably get on board as long as two things happen:  1) QW is looking solid 2) The compensation for Leo is good (something like getting a 1st round pick and sending a 6th back to the trade partner).

[Alka]

22 minutes ago, choon328 said:

They literally just replaced him with the 3rd pick in the draft.

I didn't realize that we only played with (1) one defensive lineman.  I thought we ran a 3-4 defense, with (3) three defensive linemen?  

[jetstream23]

14 minutes ago, New York Mick said:

So Leo won’t be on the field the same time as  QWillaims? Is Leo his backup?

I'd like to see those two guys rotating but also getting on the field simultaneously something like 50% of the time.  I think a Henry Anderson - Q Williams - Leo Williams front 3 would be dynamite with guys like Mosely, Williamson, Jenkins, Polite behind them.

[tkiss24]

If we get 10-12 sacks out of him then I'd franchise tag him for 2020, and the potentially look at trading him.  Even though this just seems like the Jetsiest thing ever, drafting an excellent DT and watching him get 10 sacks, then trading him at the ripe old age of 25 or 26, I could probably get on board as long as two things happen:  1) QW is looking solid 2) The compensation for Leo is good (something like getting a 1st round pick and sending a 6th back to the trade partner).

I would be on board with that also. One good thing about firing Mac is we don’t have a gm who feels the need to hang on to a guy like Williams just to keep his draft record looking “good”


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[New York Mick]

39 minutes ago, jetstream23 said:

I'd like to see those two guys rotating but also getting on the field simultaneously something like 50% of the time.  I think a Henry Anderson - Q Williams - Leo Williams front 3 would be dynamite with guys like Mosely, Williamson, Jenkins, Polite behind them.

It has a chance of being a very good defense especially if the offense doesn’t go three and out all the time. 

[T0mShane]

What’s more likely: 

A: Leonard goes out and gets 10+ sacks and earns an Aaron Donald contract

-or-

B: Leonard gets his normal 5-8 sacks, then leaves as a free agent

[Scoop24]

It’s funny how cimini speculated this now y’all running with as if wasn’t just his opinion .

 

[Barry McCockinner]

Next tweak coming up

 

[varjet]

Although you would think differently watching games, Leo’s and Trey Flowers stats last year were not that different.  He could conceivably get a large contract.

But for where this team is, and after drafting Quinnen and the other DL, and signing Henry, I would rather have a 2 or 3 draft pick and Leo’s $14mm to use next year to sign an OL.