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4 minutes ago, Peace Frog said:

This is arguably one of the most embarrassing threads on Jet Nation. 

The amount of nuanced prevaricating to prove right or wrong is, quite frankly, unseemly for adults calling themselves fans of a football franchise  

 

Agreed. @joewilly12 should just admit that he designed that shirt.

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6 minutes ago, Peace Frog said:

This is arguably one of the most embarrassing threads on Jet Nation. 

The amount of nuanced prevaricating to prove right or wrong is, quite frankly, unseemly for adults calling themselves fans of a football franchise  

 

Agree 

1 minute ago, T0mShane said:

Agreed. @joewilly12 should just admit that he designed that shirt.

@T0mShane should just admit he's PatsFanTX 

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1 hour ago, NYJ1 said:

Well, Darron Lee definitely sucked, but we shall see this season.

Indeed.

1 hour ago, NYJ1 said:

Now, and according to you, CJ Moseley is a superior player to Adams.

He's a 4-time All-Pro.  I would expect all-pro level play, as I hope would all Jets fans.

1 hour ago, NYJ1 said:

If that's the case then with better personnel in front of him, Adams numbers should diminish substantially, right?

Not necessarily.  Depends on a multitude of factors.  But with superior D-Line and LB play I would expect his tackles to decline, and his passing game numbers to increase.

1 hour ago, NYJ1 said:

Because Moseley will make all the flashy plays, right?

Not a Mosely fan?

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4 hours ago, GreenFish said:

Jamal making the all clutch team. Team is based on player performance in the 4th quarter When a team is down by a TD or less. Guess the 4th quarter colllapses weren’t Jamal’s fault.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-the-2018-nfl-clutch-team

S – EDDIE JACKSONCHICAGO BEARSJAMAL ADAMSNEW YORK JETS

Second Team: Tracy WalkerDetroit Lions & Kenny VaccaroTennessee Titans

The two first-team spots at safety go to two of the best in the league last season. Jackson was an excellent playmaker on the back end, allowing a completion rate of just 35.7% on throws into his coverage while picking off three passes. Adams had similar success in coverage, allowing just 4-of-12 throws to be completed for 32 yards. Adams also saw some success as a pass-rusher, with five pressures on 13 pass-rushing snaps.

 

 

 

 

 

 

For a safety who supposedly can’t cover. Jamal really shined in all the coverage numbers. Except Ints of course.. 

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5 hours ago, GreenFish said:

Jamal making the all clutch team. Team is based on player performance in the 4th quarter When a team is down by a TD or less. Guess the 4th quarter colllapses weren’t Jamal’s fault.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-the-2018-nfl-clutch-team

The 2018 NFL Clutch Team

BY BEN LINSEY • MAY 31, 2019

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There is often debate over which players perform best when the pressure is at its highest, i.e. which players in the NFL are the most “clutch.” These debates often rely on anecdotal evidence, such as one memorably great play in a key moment, but the play-by-play grading at PFF allows us to look at the bigger picture and take the totality of a player’s performance in “clutch time” into consideration.

The sample size for this list — plays in the fourth quarter of games within seven points — might seem specific, but it’s meant to capture only those high-pressure situations in which the makeup of a player is put to the test. Among all players with 100-plus snaps in those situations last season, these guys came out on top.  

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QB – TOM BRADY, NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS

Second Team: Aaron Rodgers, Green Bay Packers

We kick off the list with a shocker. Tom Brady has been the standard at the quarterback position for the better part of his career, and in a year in which he took home his sixth Super Bowl title, Brady earns a first-team spot on the Clutch Team with his 90.5 grade when it mattered most. He picked up big chunks late in tight games — 1,073 passing yards on 107 attempts — and those 10.0 yards per attempt led all quarterbacks with 50 or more attempts in clutch time. 

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RB – JOE MIXON, CINCINNATI BENGALS

Second Team: Nyheim Hines, Indianapolis Colts

Mixon won the title of the top clutch running back last season by a healthy margin, as his 85.0 grade paced the position by over seven points. As a runner, he ran for 7.1 yards per attempt (first among running backs with 25-plus carries) and 3.8 yards after contact per attempt (second), and he forced eight missed tackles (fourth) in the process. As a receiver, he caught 9-of-10 targets for 81 yards and a touchdown.

WR – JULIO JONES, ATLANTA FALCONS & MICHAEL THOMAS, NEW ORLEANS SAINTS

Second Team: Keenan Allen, Los Angeles Chargers & DeAndre Hopkins, Houston Texans

The first-team spots at wide receiver come from two of the top receivers in the game in Jones and Thomas, both hailing from the NFC South. Jones was a volume monster in clutch time with 612 receiving yards (first by 141 yards) and 20 explosive plays (plays of 15 or more yards) as a receiver, which was the most by eight plays. Thomas was just as efficient when the game was on the line: he caught a ridiculous 29 of his 33 targets for 312 yards, five touchdowns and a passer rating when targeted of 145.6.

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TE – DALLAS GOEDERT, PHILADELPHIA EAGLES

Second Team: Rob Gronkowski, New England Patriots

Goedert only just made the snap threshold, though as his spot on the top of the list would suggest, he was efficient in his time on the field. His run-blocking grade of 66.7 ranked seventh at the position, but he made his biggest impact in the passing game. His numbers look pedestrian at just eight receptions on 11 targets for 83 yards and a touchdown. Those numbers, however, do not take into account a 75-yard contested catch that was brought back for a penalty in which he forced two missed tackles. The PFF grade does take that into account, and it’s part of the reason Goedert ended up at the top of the list.

LT – TYRON SMITH, DALLAS COWBOYS

Second Team: Russell Okung, Los Angeles Chargers

Over the course of the season, Smith graded out as the sixth-best left tackle with an overall grade of 80.1. As great players do, though, he raised his game in clutch time and finished those plays with a grade of 87.3. Smith’s run-blocking grade of 78.4 led all tackles, and he allowed zero quarterback hits or sacks on 156 pass-blocking snaps.

LG – QUENTON NELSON, INDIANAPOLIS COLTS

Second Team: Ali Marpet, Tampa Bay Buccaneers

In his first season, Nelson immediately made his spot among the top guards in the league known. His performance in high-pressure situations was no different. Nelson led all left guards in run-blocking grade by a healthy margin (79.0), and he was no slouch in pass protection either. Only four pass-rushers got by him on 188 opportunities.

C – JASON KELCE, PHILADELPHIA EAGLES

Second Team: Rodney Hudson, Oakland Raiders

When you look at all snaps, Kelce was the clear-cut top center in the league last season with an overall grade of 83.6. That was even more apparent in the fourth quarter of close games, as Kelce’s grade rose to 86.6 — a full 8.5 points above the second place Hudson. It was his 85.5 run-blocking grade that really set him apart. He was one of only three centers to eclipse the 75.0 mark in clutch time.

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RG – MARK GLOWINSKI, INDIANAPOLIS COLTS

Second Team: Matt Slauson, Indianapolis Colts

Joining his teammate from Indy, Glowinski locked down the top spot at right guard with an overall grade of 76.4 in the clutch. Similar to Nelson, he was dominant in the run game. His 76.4 run-blocking grade across 48 snaps came in tops among all qualifying right guards.

RT – BRADEN SMITH, INDIANAPOLIS COLTS

Second Team: Mitchell Schwartz, Kansas City Chiefs

The rookie Smith makes three members of the Colts’ starting offensive line that ended up on the Clutch Team, surely making Andrew Luck a happy man. Smith allowed five pressures on 128 pass-blocking snaps, and he finished the season with a 75.1 overall grade in clutch time — first among all qualifying right tackles.

EDGE – JUSTIN HOUSTON, KANSAS CITY CHIEFS & CARLOS DUNLAP, CINCINNATI BENGALS

Second Team: Cameron Jordan, New Orleans Saints & Myles Garrett, Cleveland Browns

The run of Colts continues at the edge position, though this time it’s one of the team’s new additions that make the list. With the Chiefs, Houston was the only edge defender with 100-plus snaps to eclipse an overall grade of 90.0 in the clutch. He routinely beat his blocker as a pass rusher, notching a pass-rush win rate of 20.6%. The other first-team selection — Carlos Dunlap — did it with a well-rounded approach. He was one of six edge defenders to have both a run-defense and pass-rush grade of 73.0 or higher in the fourth quarter of one-score games.

DI – AARON DONALD, LOS ANGELES RAMS & KAWANN SHORT, CAROLINA PANTHERS

Second Team: Fletcher Cox, Philadelphia Eagles & Kenny Clark, Green Bay Packers

If there is an NFL list of any kind, it’s a safe bet to pencil in Donald at interior defender. The guy is a one-man wrecking crew in the passing game, as his absurd 25.1% pass-rush win rate in clutch time can attest. No other interior defender with 50 or more pass-rushing snaps came within 4% of that rate. Short was second-best with a rate of 20.8%, which is impressive in its own right, and he was a stopper in the run game, as well: his run-defense grade of 90.4 ranked second behind only Jurrell Casey

LB – BOBBY WAGNER, SEATTLE SEAHAWKS & DARIUS LEONARD, INDIANAPOLIS COLTS

Second Team: Zach Brown, Washington Redskins & Leighton Vander Esch, Dallas Cowboys

In a similar vein to Donald, Wagner is one of the unquestioned, elite players at his position, so it comes as no surprise to see him at the top in clutch time. He was excellent in all phases of the game, notching a run-defense grade of 81.5 (second among qualifying linebackers) and a coverage grade of 91.2 (first among qualifying linebackers). Joining the ranks of first-year Colts to burst onto the scene, Leonard also excelled in the clutch, especially in coverage. His six forced incompletions led the position, and his eight defensive stops in coverage trailed only Vander Esch.  

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CB – MARLON HUMPHREY, BALTIMORE RAVENS & DESMOND KING II, LOS ANGELES CHARGERS

Second Team: Stephon Gilmore, New England Patriots & Jason McCourty, New England Patriots

Humphrey is developing into one of the more promising young cornerbacks in the NFL, and he put it on display in high-pressure situations last season. On those plays, Humphrey was targeted 18 times and allowed just eight receptions for 58 yards while picking off two passes and forcing five incompletions. King recorded his second season with an overall grade of 85.0 or higher, and that bumped up to 91.3 in the fourth quarter of one-score games, and his ten defensive stops in coverage led all cornerbacks.

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S – EDDIE JACKSON, CHICAGO BEARS & JAMAL ADAMS, NEW YORK JETS

Second Team: Tracy Walker, Detroit Lions & Kenny Vaccaro, Tennessee Titans

The two first-team spots at safety go to two of the best in the league last season. Jackson was an excellent playmaker on the back end, allowing a completion rate of just 35.7% on throws into his coverage while picking off three passes. Adams had similar success in coverage, allowing just 4-of-12 throws to be completed for 32 yards. Adams also saw some success as a pass-rusher, with five pressures on 13 pass-rushing snaps.

 

But lets keep that narrative that he's just a "box safety". Time and time again it's proven to be false. 

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4 hours ago, Villain The Foe said:

The 2018 NFL Clutch Team

BY BEN LINSEY • MAY 31, 2019

USATSI_12109291_168386533_lowres.jpg?w=9

There is often debate over which players perform best when the pressure is at its highest, i.e. which players in the NFL are the most “clutch.” These debates often rely on anecdotal evidence, such as one memorably great play in a key moment, but the play-by-play grading at PFF allows us to look at the bigger picture and take the totality of a player’s performance in “clutch time” into consideration.

The sample size for this list — plays in the fourth quarter of games within seven points — might seem specific, but it’s meant to capture only those high-pressure situations in which the makeup of a player is put to the test. Among all players with 100-plus snaps in those situations last season, these guys came out on top.  

gbg-elite-banner2.png

QB – TOM BRADY, NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS

Second Team: Aaron Rodgers, Green Bay Packers

We kick off the list with a shocker. Tom Brady has been the standard at the quarterback position for the better part of his career, and in a year in which he took home his sixth Super Bowl title, Brady earns a first-team spot on the Clutch Team with his 90.5 grade when it mattered most. He picked up big chunks late in tight games — 1,073 passing yards on 107 attempts — and those 10.0 yards per attempt led all quarterbacks with 50 or more attempts in clutch time. 

Brady_Clutch-QBs-1024x576.png

RB – JOE MIXON, CINCINNATI BENGALS

Second Team: Nyheim Hines, Indianapolis Colts

Mixon won the title of the top clutch running back last season by a healthy margin, as his 85.0 grade paced the position by over seven points. As a runner, he ran for 7.1 yards per attempt (first among running backs with 25-plus carries) and 3.8 yards after contact per attempt (second), and he forced eight missed tackles (fourth) in the process. As a receiver, he caught 9-of-10 targets for 81 yards and a touchdown.

WR – JULIO JONES, ATLANTA FALCONS & MICHAEL THOMAS, NEW ORLEANS SAINTS

Second Team: Keenan Allen, Los Angeles Chargers & DeAndre Hopkins, Houston Texans

The first-team spots at wide receiver come from two of the top receivers in the game in Jones and Thomas, both hailing from the NFC South. Jones was a volume monster in clutch time with 612 receiving yards (first by 141 yards) and 20 explosive plays (plays of 15 or more yards) as a receiver, which was the most by eight plays. Thomas was just as efficient when the game was on the line: he caught a ridiculous 29 of his 33 targets for 312 yards, five touchdowns and a passer rating when targeted of 145.6.

Julio_Clutch-WRs-1024x576.png

TE – DALLAS GOEDERT, PHILADELPHIA EAGLES

Second Team: Rob Gronkowski, New England Patriots

Goedert only just made the snap threshold, though as his spot on the top of the list would suggest, he was efficient in his time on the field. His run-blocking grade of 66.7 ranked seventh at the position, but he made his biggest impact in the passing game. His numbers look pedestrian at just eight receptions on 11 targets for 83 yards and a touchdown. Those numbers, however, do not take into account a 75-yard contested catch that was brought back for a penalty in which he forced two missed tackles. The PFF grade does take that into account, and it’s part of the reason Goedert ended up at the top of the list.

LT – TYRON SMITH, DALLAS COWBOYS

Second Team: Russell Okung, Los Angeles Chargers

Over the course of the season, Smith graded out as the sixth-best left tackle with an overall grade of 80.1. As great players do, though, he raised his game in clutch time and finished those plays with a grade of 87.3. Smith’s run-blocking grade of 78.4 led all tackles, and he allowed zero quarterback hits or sacks on 156 pass-blocking snaps.

LG – QUENTON NELSON, INDIANAPOLIS COLTS

Second Team: Ali Marpet, Tampa Bay Buccaneers

In his first season, Nelson immediately made his spot among the top guards in the league known. His performance in high-pressure situations was no different. Nelson led all left guards in run-blocking grade by a healthy margin (79.0), and he was no slouch in pass protection either. Only four pass-rushers got by him on 188 opportunities.

C – JASON KELCE, PHILADELPHIA EAGLES

Second Team: Rodney Hudson, Oakland Raiders

When you look at all snaps, Kelce was the clear-cut top center in the league last season with an overall grade of 83.6. That was even more apparent in the fourth quarter of close games, as Kelce’s grade rose to 86.6 — a full 8.5 points above the second place Hudson. It was his 85.5 run-blocking grade that really set him apart. He was one of only three centers to eclipse the 75.0 mark in clutch time.

Kelce_Clutch-IOL-1024x576.png

RG – MARK GLOWINSKI, INDIANAPOLIS COLTS

Second Team: Matt Slauson, Indianapolis Colts

Joining his teammate from Indy, Glowinski locked down the top spot at right guard with an overall grade of 76.4 in the clutch. Similar to Nelson, he was dominant in the run game. His 76.4 run-blocking grade across 48 snaps came in tops among all qualifying right guards.

RT – BRADEN SMITH, INDIANAPOLIS COLTS

Second Team: Mitchell Schwartz, Kansas City Chiefs

The rookie Smith makes three members of the Colts’ starting offensive line that ended up on the Clutch Team, surely making Andrew Luck a happy man. Smith allowed five pressures on 128 pass-blocking snaps, and he finished the season with a 75.1 overall grade in clutch time — first among all qualifying right tackles.

EDGE – JUSTIN HOUSTON, KANSAS CITY CHIEFS & CARLOS DUNLAP, CINCINNATI BENGALS

Second Team: Cameron Jordan, New Orleans Saints & Myles Garrett, Cleveland Browns

The run of Colts continues at the edge position, though this time it’s one of the team’s new additions that make the list. With the Chiefs, Houston was the only edge defender with 100-plus snaps to eclipse an overall grade of 90.0 in the clutch. He routinely beat his blocker as a pass rusher, notching a pass-rush win rate of 20.6%. The other first-team selection — Carlos Dunlap — did it with a well-rounded approach. He was one of six edge defenders to have both a run-defense and pass-rush grade of 73.0 or higher in the fourth quarter of one-score games.

DI – AARON DONALD, LOS ANGELES RAMS & KAWANN SHORT, CAROLINA PANTHERS

Second Team: Fletcher Cox, Philadelphia Eagles & Kenny Clark, Green Bay Packers

If there is an NFL list of any kind, it’s a safe bet to pencil in Donald at interior defender. The guy is a one-man wrecking crew in the passing game, as his absurd 25.1% pass-rush win rate in clutch time can attest. No other interior defender with 50 or more pass-rushing snaps came within 4% of that rate. Short was second-best with a rate of 20.8%, which is impressive in its own right, and he was a stopper in the run game, as well: his run-defense grade of 90.4 ranked second behind only Jurrell Casey

LB – BOBBY WAGNER, SEATTLE SEAHAWKS & DARIUS LEONARD, INDIANAPOLIS COLTS

Second Team: Zach Brown, Washington Redskins & Leighton Vander Esch, Dallas Cowboys

In a similar vein to Donald, Wagner is one of the unquestioned, elite players at his position, so it comes as no surprise to see him at the top in clutch time. He was excellent in all phases of the game, notching a run-defense grade of 81.5 (second among qualifying linebackers) and a coverage grade of 91.2 (first among qualifying linebackers). Joining the ranks of first-year Colts to burst onto the scene, Leonard also excelled in the clutch, especially in coverage. His six forced incompletions led the position, and his eight defensive stops in coverage trailed only Vander Esch.  

Wagner_Clutch-LBs-1024x576.png

CB – MARLON HUMPHREY, BALTIMORE RAVENS & DESMOND KING II, LOS ANGELES CHARGERS

Second Team: Stephon Gilmore, New England Patriots & Jason McCourty, New England Patriots

Humphrey is developing into one of the more promising young cornerbacks in the NFL, and he put it on display in high-pressure situations last season. On those plays, Humphrey was targeted 18 times and allowed just eight receptions for 58 yards while picking off two passes and forcing five incompletions. King recorded his second season with an overall grade of 85.0 or higher, and that bumped up to 91.3 in the fourth quarter of one-score games, and his ten defensive stops in coverage led all cornerbacks.

Humphrey_Clutch-CBs-1024x576.png

S – EDDIE JACKSON, CHICAGO BEARS & JAMAL ADAMS, NEW YORK JETS

Second Team: Tracy Walker, Detroit Lions & Kenny Vaccaro, Tennessee Titans

The two first-team spots at safety go to two of the best in the league last season. Jackson was an excellent playmaker on the back end, allowing a completion rate of just 35.7% on throws into his coverage while picking off three passes. Adams had similar success in coverage, allowing just 4-of-12 throws to be completed for 32 yards. Adams also saw some success as a pass-rusher, with five pressures on 13 pass-rushing snaps.

 

But lets keep that narrative that he's just a "box safety". Time and time again it's proven to be false. 

Would note Matt Slauson is a guy the Jets had and didn't value. As usual, DBs, we'll bend over backward to overpay them, OL guys, not so much.

Fashion designers post here? 

 

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On 5/27/2019 at 6:01 PM, joewilly12 said:

Jamal Adams was NOT the reason the NY Jets were 4-12 

Carry on. 

I'm not saying he was. What I'm saying is don't celebrate a stop on 4th and 1 when you're down by multiple TD's in a season when you have 4 wins.

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On 6/1/2019 at 1:40 PM, Jet Nut said:

WTF are you even arguing about at this point?

Someone said Adams was the best player on the team and you laughed at him.  Thought it was funny.

I said he is and at worst hes in the discussion.  You keep coming back for more.  Now he is one of the best just not the best?  Which is different from hes in the discussion how?   

Sorry, spin it, twist it anyway you want, he was the best player on the team a year ago.  

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Not exactly a bubble bursting moment.

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21 hours ago, JetFaninMI said:

I'm not saying he was. What I'm saying is don't celebrate a stop on 4th and 1 when you're down by multiple TD's in a season when you have 4 wins.

Why not? Why can you not celebrate the fact that you're doing your job even though you're losing?

I bet that If every defensive player on that team played as good at their position as Adams plays at his, they wouldn't be getting blown out of the building. 

In otherwords, Adams is doing his job. It's the guys around him that arent. Maybe if all of those drafted defensive linemen by Maccagnan could make a play then it wouldnt require a safety to make the stop. 

Folks are making an issue out of nothing. If celebrating keeps him in the state of mind that makes him one of the best in the league at his job, then the last thing I'd want him to donis to stop celebrating his stops on 4th and 1.

 

Lastly, what's really weird to me is how the same Jets fans can overly praise Sam Darnold, not because of his production in his rookie season...but because of his youth, potential and his position on the field, yet criticize Adams though he's executing his potential on the field, but given his position on the field he's somehow insignificant. 

Jamal Adams is the best player on this team, and he's one of the best in the league....even without the 10 interceptions. 

He hasnt given up a touch down while in coverage since his rookie season. That is literally a shut down safety. 

So yeah, he celebrated a stop down by multiple TD's...but how many more would they be down if not for Adams and his play? He's the only solid and consistently great player on the Jets. 

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