Jetsfan80 Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 In the same draft where we took Jamal Adams # 6 overall, the Bears found a stud Safety in Round 4, # 112 overall. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001032071/article/bears-dc-pagano-sees-some-ed-reed-in-eddie-jackson Bears DC Pagano sees some Ed Reed in Eddie Jackson Expectations for Chicago Bears safety Eddie Jackson were already through the roof entering his third pro season. New defensive coordinator Chuck Pagano added even more fuel to the hype fire. Pagano said last week that Jackson reminds him of former Ravens safety Ed Reed, who enters the Hall of Fame this year. "From a talent standpoint? Very, very similar," Pagano said, via the Chicago Sun-Times. "Great instincts. Great range. Great ball skills. He's only three years into it. Ed has a lot more time on task, obviously. He's got a lot of the same traits. He loves football. He's a football junkie. And again, the sky's the limit for a guy like that. "When you know the defense and you know what you're doing and then you can spend all your time figuring out the offense and being one step ahead, that's where he's got an edge on everybody. He's very similar to Reed." Pagano coached Reed in Baltimore for four seasons. He will now help Jackson take the next step in what could be an epic career. Jackson is coming off a dynamic second season in which he was named first-team All-Pro after compiling six interceptions, 15 passes defended, a sack and 51 tackles. The Bears' safety has the range ideal for the modern NFL, but has plenty of strides to make before a true comparison to Reed is fair to the young player. "He had a great year last year -- but that was then," safeties coach Sean Desai said. "He knows that. We're going to challenge him in a way that we see, and he sees, the small areas he can improve. ... "In this league, it's about one step and one inch. If you can get him one step faster than he was last year, that could lead to more plays he can make. If you get him one inch closer, that can lead to more plays." When Jackson suffered an injury late in the season (missing the final two games of the regular season and didn't play a snap in the playoff tilt), the Bears' back end noticeably suffered without the playmaking safety's ability to blanket the secondary. Watching Nick Foles dice up the Bears' defense late in the postseason tilt underscored Jackson's importance to Chicago's D. If Jackson lives up to Pagano's expectation in 2019, it will go a long way in the Bears' defense repeating their dominant 2018 campaign. 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonderboy Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 Jamal and Leo for Jackson. Do it Gase. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post southparkcpa Posted May 28, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted May 28, 2019 Why would a Jets fan care about the Bears 4th rounder? Oh... trash MAC? I HATE MAC... but this is a bit unfair. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PS17 Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 Eddie Jackson is a special player. Best safety in the league, by a decent margin I’d say. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted May 28, 2019 Author Share Posted May 28, 2019 10 minutes ago, southparkcpa said: Why would a Jets fan care about the Bears 4th rounder? Oh... trash MAC? I HATE MAC... but this is a bit unfair. Its totally fair. We used the 6th pick on Adams for 1 INT. The Bears used the # 112 pick on a guy who in the same span has 8 INTs. And not only did Macc take Adams at 6, he took ANOTHER Safety in Round 2. Record since those 2 picks: 9-23. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDL_JET Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 Cool. Good for them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JustInFudge Posted May 28, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted May 28, 2019 Meh. He'd say that about Adams too I'm sure. There were 12 safeties taken before Jackson. And while Jackson is great, the Jets got a great player as well. I get the point and topic, it's a fresh one; Adams wasnt worth the #6th overall pick! but there are much worse drafts to complain about and much bigger finds than Jackson in the history of the draft. For example; the year same year Antonio Brown was drafted in the 6th round, the Jets took; Kyle Wilson, Vlad Ducasse, Joe McKnight and John Connor before him. This was the same year that Jeremy Kerley and Chaz Schilens were the Jets leading WR's. 11 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetstream Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 5 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Its totally fair. We used the 6th pick on Adams for 1 INT. The Bears used the # 112 pick on a guy who in the same span has 8 INTs. And not only did Macc take Adams at 6, he took ANOTHER Safety in Round 2. Record since those 2 picks: 9-23. so who do we want to fire next for that?? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted May 28, 2019 Author Share Posted May 28, 2019 Just now, JiF said: Meh. He'd say that about Adams too I'm sure. Ed Reed generated turnovers. So no, Pagano wouldn't compared Adams to him. The best comparison for Adams would probably be Kam Chancellor (former 5th round pick). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDL_JET Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Ed Reed generated turnovers. So no, Pagano wouldn't compared Adams to him. The best comparison for Adams would probably be Kam Chancellor (former 5th round pick). It's okay man, it all worked out. We still got Darnold, we have Adams, Mac is gone. It's gonna be alright. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post JustInFudge Posted May 28, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted May 28, 2019 1 minute ago, Jetsfan80 said: Ed Reed generated turnovers. So no, Pagano wouldn't compared Adams to him. The best comparison for Adams would probably be Kam Chancellor (former 5th round pick). I'm not going to argue with you about coach pillow talk...but I'm sure he'd have very nice things to say about a great player in Jamal Adams (former 6th overall pick). Jackson and Adams are clearly used totally different. Jackson a free roaming center fielder and Adams is basically a LB'er. I'm not saying Adams can do what Jackson does but I know for a fact that Jackson could not come close to doing what Adams does. I could be wrong here but I dont think Jackson is an all world athlete head and shoulders above Adams. A good, not great athlete. I think the wrap on him other than always injured was that he was not a "speed demon" for safety who cant tackle. I think his instincts are just insane. I do think dumbing it down to just turnovers is a bit juvenile in thought. Not all turnovers are created equal. And is play on 3rd down forcing a punt any different than an INT that doesnt give you better field position? I dont think so. It's like the old saying, a bomb on 3rd down that gets picked off is no different than a punt on 4th. Jamal had 65 more tackles and 3 more sacks than Jackson. It's safe to assume, somewhere in those statistics are a few plays on 3rd down that created a punt situation or maybe even created a turnover for someone else. Jackson really isnt asked to do much. He wasnt at Bama either. He just plays a great centerfield. Compare that to what Jamal Adams is asked to do and it's night and day. I'm not arguing your overall point. The Bears got a game changing player at a non-premium position much later in the draft. Kudos. I just think there could be a lot worse situations than having Jamal Adams on your team and using a fluff quote from a coach to drive home an already belabored point is weak sauce. 5 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinemanCT Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 2016 Drafted Wide outs Corey Coleman Will Fuller (ok) Josh Doctson Laquon Treadwell Sterling Shepard (Good) Michael Thomas N.O (A+) Tyler Boyd (ok) Braxton Miller Leonte Carroo Chris Moore Malcolm Mitchell Ricardo Louis Pharoh Cooper Demarcus Robinson Tajae Sharpe Jordan Payton Trevor Davis Tyreek Hill (A+) on the field Rashard Higgins Moritz Böhringer Keenan Reynolds Jakeem Grant Kolby Listenbee Cody Core Mike Thomas L.A.R Aaron Burbridge Devin Lucien Demarcus Ayers Daniel Braverman Devin Fuller Charone Peake Kenny Lawler Not Drafted Geronimo Allison Robby (Nut In the I) Anderson Look how many misses I'll stick with Adams at 6 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Frog Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 A coach is singing his player’s praises. Shocked. Shocked I tell you. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Frog Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 This is incontrovertible evidence that a 4th rounder is going to the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 Just curious....didn't Pagano coach Luck? Wonder if he sees some of him in Trubisky?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post UnitedWhofans Posted May 28, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted May 28, 2019 The hate for Jamal Adams is whew. I just don't get it. I don't get. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted May 28, 2019 Author Share Posted May 28, 2019 7 minutes ago, Peace Frog said: A coach is singing his player’s praises. Shocked. Shocked I tell you. Per PFF, Jackson was the # 1 Safety in the NFL last year. Not the Prez. Eddie Jackson. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Per PFF, Jackson was the # 1 Safety in the NFL last year. Not the Prez. Eddie Jackson. WHO CARES? What is it with this fanbase going out of their way to discredit the players that they are supposed to be rooting for? What the hell is wrong with you? 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 Dear Lord, I'm so glad Joe Klecko didn't play in the time of social media. Or Al Toon for that matter 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 Can you imagine Al Toon playing now. OH WE COULD HAVE GOTTEN JERRY RICE! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 Trivia question for you guys - Name the round that Tom Brady was drafted in? Don't you just love these threads about all the great things we've missed on? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 1 hour ago, southparkcpa said: Why would a Jets fan care about the Bears 4th rounder? Oh... trash MAC? I HATE MAC... but this is a bit unfair. No it's not. As good as Adams is, his pick was emblematic of the routine poor decision making and improper prioritization of the organization as a whole. Had we not scored Darnold (at the extreme cost of all those high-round picks), the Adams > Mahomes decision might have gone down in Jets History as one of the all-time worst decisions in our history. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 Just now, Warfish said: No it's not. As good as Adams is, his pick was emblematic of the routine poor decision making and improper prioritization of the organization as a whole. But why bring it up at all now? Macc is gone. What's the point? I just don't get the fans hating on a player who wants to play here 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-met57 Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 people need to learn to move on, esp with Macc gone...let it go people....future is now. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Villain The Foe Posted May 28, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted May 28, 2019 The lengths people will go to find a reason why a very good Jets player is bad. 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 1 minute ago, k-met57 said: people need to learn to move on, esp with Macc gone...let it go people....future is now. And since he's gone, the only way this type of information makes sense is that it is being used to attack Jamal Adams the player rather than the pick 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 Just now, Villain The Foe said: The lengths people will go to find a reason why a very good Jets player is bad. It's insanity. INSANITY 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 4 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: Can you imagine Al Toon playing now. OH WE COULD HAVE GOTTEN JERRY RICE! I don't know how old you are, but trust me, people were definitely saying stuff like that back in the day. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 Just now, section314 said: I don't know how old you are, but trust me, people were definitely saying stuff like that back in the day. And they were dumb then too. Not only the difference in QB but offensive system 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 14 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: It's insanity. INSANITY Indeed it is. It's almost like folks are pissed that he had a all pro year. It doesn't allow their hate to go unchallenged. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thai Jet Posted May 28, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted May 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Jetsfan80 said: Its totally fair. We used the 6th pick on Adams for 1 INT. The Bears used the # 112 pick on a guy who in the same span has 8 INTs. And not only did Macc take Adams at 6, he took ANOTHER Safety in Round 2. Record since those 2 picks: 9-23. Get over it already. Are you that bored ? I'd like to think that you're better than this 80. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 1 hour ago, JiF said: Meh. He'd say that about Adams too I'm sure. There were 12 safeties taken before Jackson. And while Jackson is great, the Jets got a great player as well. I get the point and topic, it's a fresh one; Adams wasnt worth the #6th overall pick! but there are much worse drafts to complain about and much bigger finds than Jackson in the history of the draft. For example; the year same year Antonio Brown was drafted in the 6th round, the Jets took; Kyle Wilson, Vlad Ducasse, Joe McKnight and John Connor before him. This was the same year that Jeremy Kerley and Chaz Schilens were the Jets leading WR's. Jackson was hurt at the end of the season at Bama. That's why his stock dropped. He was one of the top safeties that year pre injury. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 15 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: But why bring it up at all now? Macc is gone. What's the point? I just don't get the fans hating on a player who wants to play here And I don't get fans incapable of have rational discussions of things without going full-bore homer-defensive over every thing. Jamal Adams can be a very good Safety AND not have been worth the pick he was selected at. We always say (rightfully so) that we cannot and should not judge a draft till after a few years have passed. A few years have passed, and the best Safety in the NFL is a guy picked in the same class as Adams three rounds later. Rational people should be able to discuss this without getting all emotional and blubbery about it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Jetsfan80 said: Its totally fair. We used the 6th pick on Adams for 1 INT. The Bears used the # 112 pick on a guy who in the same span has 8 INTs. And not only did Macc take Adams at 6, he took ANOTHER Safety in Round 2. Record since those 2 picks: 9-23. Then every GM should be fired for not drafting Brady. To me, Monday morning QB stuff is not what we should be doing. It's the NOT taking a QB when 2 quality starters were available. THAT is my beef, and in my mind, the better argument that MAC is NOT a quality GM. Oline avoidance etc. BUT to have a HOFer picked by a team in the 4th round? That player was available to every team at least 2 times. But yes, let's crucify MAC. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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