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Jet Nut Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 Cool thread, lol 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 1 minute ago, Jet Nut said: Cool thread, lol Remember when savvy veteran receiver Jermaine Kearse was part of the insane heist Mike Maccagnan pulled off in the Sheldon Richardson trade and all the haters were super owned lol 1 2 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 1 minute ago, T0mShane said: Remember when savvy veteran receiver Jermaine Kearse was part of the insane heist Mike Maccagnan pulled off in the Sheldon Richardson trade and all the haters were super owned lol And how good it continued to look in the first year of that trade? I'll take that trade every time, really cant complain, come on. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 1 minute ago, Jet Nut said: And how good it continued to look in the first year of that trade? I'll take that trade every time, really cant complain, come on. I’m not complaining! Fûck Jermaine Kearse! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post slats Posted June 6, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 6, 2019 4 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Remember when savvy veteran receiver Jermaine Kearse was part of the insane heist Mike Maccagnan pulled off in the Sheldon Richardson trade and all the haters were super owned lol He was good his first year. Was a bit of a surprise when he retired during the season last year. 10 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 Just now, T0mShane said: I’m not complaining! Fûck Jermaine Kearse! Watch, you might get buttfumbled for not caring about Kearse. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 Should I start another thread? Jaguars reach deal with receiver Terrelle Pryor JACKSONVILLE, Fla. -- The Jaguars signed receiver Terrelle Pryor on Monday morning, adding another player with questions to a position group that has few certainties. Pryor -- who has 115 catches for 1,563 yards and seven touchdowns in six seasons -- is the second-most-experienced receiver on the Jaguars' roster. Only Marqise Lee, who missed the 2018 season after suffering a knee injury in the preseason, has more catches (171). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 Just now, slats said: He was good his first year. Was a bit of a surprise when he retired during the season last year. Iirc, they hinted at him being a pain in the ass in Seattle and that’s why they were trying to trade him for two years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drsamuel84 Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 3 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Jaguars reach deal with receiver Terrelle Pryor JACKSONVILLE, Fla. -- The Jaguars signed receiver Terrelle Pryor on Monday morning, adding another player with questions to a position group that has few certainties. Pryor -- who has 115 catches for 1,563 yards and seven touchdowns in six seasons -- is the second-most-experienced receiver on the Jaguars' roster. Only Marqise Lee, who missed the 2018 season after suffering a knee injury in the preseason, has more catches (171). Never understood what really happened with him. He's nothing spectacular but we were pretty thin at WR last year and he seemed to be at least developing some rapport with Sam. Not a huge loss but still seemed like he could've been a useful piece last year when we moved on. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 Most disappointing player on the team last year. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Harper Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 15 minutes ago, drsamuel84 said: Never understood what really happened with him. He's nothing spectacular but we were pretty thin at WR last year and he seemed to be at least developing some rapport with Sam. Not a huge loss but still seemed like he could've been a useful piece last year when we moved on. It definitely was odd. But the Bills didn't care to hold on to him either. I suspect that he is a hard guy to deal with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 nice...I guess 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 30 minutes ago, drsamuel84 said: Never understood what really happened with him. He's nothing spectacular but we were pretty thin at WR last year and he seemed to be at least developing some rapport with Sam. Not a huge loss but still seemed like he could've been a useful piece last year when we moved on. He's been a diva knucklehead everywhere hes been. Teammates not liking him He doesnt produce and is dumped. Not hard to speculate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterChiefJets Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 He gave up on Sam last year. Bye Bye team leader. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 1 hour ago, T0mShane said: Remember when savvy veteran receiver Jermaine Kearse was part of the insane heist Mike Maccagnan pulled off in the Sheldon Richardson trade and all the haters were super owned lol You’ve gone from best poster here to best poster here with a slightly smaller insurmountable lead over the pack the last 24 hours. Another hibernation to refuel your mitochondria in order? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 1 hour ago, drsamuel84 said: Never understood what really happened with him. He's nothing spectacular but we were pretty thin at WR last year and he seemed to be at least developing some rapport with Sam. Not a huge loss but still seemed like he could've been a useful piece last year when we moved on. Was toast after the home opener when he quit on the crossing route vs the Dolphins, leading to an end zone int.To his credit, admitted it after game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Beerfish said: Most disappointing player on the team last year. Pryor? He was the most disappointing player on TWO teams last year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hael Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 2 hours ago, Jet Nut said: And how good it continued to look in the first year of that trade? I'll take that trade every time, really cant complain, come on. It was much less good than advertised, and we got somewhat lucky. The Kearse piece was actually us paying Seattle in 'value' to take him off the roster b/c they didn't want his overpriced contract. The Richardson part was actually the equivalent of a late 3rd pick in draft value (we swapped late round picks). Kearse played really well that first season b/c he was slighted, but his salary was definitely a net negative last season. So it's a wash. End of the day, we got about expected value from the trade (Richardson for a late 3), which we would have got anyway in comp draft value. Meanwhile Sheldon has been average on the teams he's been on (i'm not entirely sure what happened to that guy, he was so good his first two years). So it's a whole lot of meh at the end of the day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhg1084 Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 Offensive coordinator Dowell Loggains enjoying himself at Top Golf today. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 12 minutes ago, Hael said: It was much less good than advertised, and we got somewhat lucky. The Kearse piece was actually us paying Seattle in 'value' to take him off the roster b/c they didn't want his overpriced contract. The Richardson part was actually the equivalent of a late 3rd pick in draft value (we swapped late round picks). Kearse played really well that first season b/c he was slighted, but his salary was definitely a net negative last season. So it's a wash. End of the day, we got about expected value from the trade (Richardson for a late 3), which we would have got anyway in comp draft value. Meanwhile Sheldon has been average on the teams he's been on (i'm not entirely sure what happened to that guy, he was so good his first two years). So it's a whole lot of meh at the end of the day. No, the Jets got a second, not a third along with Kearse. And the comp was in no way what people here were saying we would get for "a lazy, malcontent, locker room cancer. One of the 2s that we used to ultimately get Darnold. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 Kearse is DUN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 3 hours ago, nycdan said: Pryor? He was the most disappointing player on TWO teams last year. No, Kearse. I knew pryor was going to stink. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealeb319 Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 Remember when savvy veteran receiver Jermaine Kearse was part of the insane heist Mike Maccagnan pulled off in the Sheldon Richardson trade and all the haters were super owned lol Kearse wasn't bad his first year. Richardson hasn't been good either year. The Macc heist is the reason darnold is on our team right now. If darnold is as good as we all hope he is then this was a great trade. If not we swapped bums and picked up a draft pick.Sent from my LGUS991 using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 2 minutes ago, bealeb319 said: Kearse wasn't bad his first year. Richardson hasn't been good either year. The Macc heist is the reason darnold is on our team right now. If darnold is as good as we all hope he is then this was a great trade. If not we swapped bums and picked up a draft pick. Sent from my LGUS991 using JetNation.com mobile app You are dramatically underrating Richardson. He earned an $8M contract off his performance in Seattle and 3/$37M off Minnesota. Kearse has been an inconsistent, unreliable WR for his entire career and the Lions just signed him for $1.35M with a chance to earn another $1M. They are not in the same stratosphere as players. Here is a snarky fact for insertion, should anyone so choose. Sheldon Richardson has as many interceptions in the years since he left the Jets as Jamal Adams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJ1 Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 For whatever reason, he never developed chemistry with Sammy? Really find it ridiculous also? Jermaine Kearse is an outstanding receiver. That's one that will always confuse me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 I seriously didn't know he was off the team. I hardly ever realized he was on the team either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 14 minutes ago, NYJ1 said: For whatever reason, he never developed chemistry with Sammy? Really find it ridiculous also? Jermaine Kearse is an outstanding receiver. That's one that will always confuse me. So outstanding he got signed on June 6th for depth 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealeb319 Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 You are dramatically underrating Richardson. He earned an $8M contract off his performance in Seattle and 3/$37M off Minnesota. Kearse has been an inconsistent, unreliable WR for his entire career and the Lions just signed him for $1.35M with a chance to earn another $1M. They are not in the same stratosphere as players. Here is a snarky fact for insertion, should anyone so choose. Sheldon Richardson has as many interceptions in the years since he left the Jets as Jamal Adams.Jamal Adams plays a position where he should not be a turnover machine. Over the last two years Adams has had as many sacks as Richardson which is the stat that should be important for Sheldon.Sent from my LGUS991 using JetNation.com mobile app 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hael Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 5 hours ago, Jet Nut said: No, the Jets got a second, not a third along with Kearse. And the comp was in no way what people here were saying we would get for "a lazy, malcontent, locker room cancer. One of the 2s that we used to ultimately get Darnold. Nope, not in net value! The 2 we got was a late round pick, b/c of Seattles record. We swapped 7th rounders (which is like a late six for a late 7). That's 14 points in standard trade value off the chart. The pushes our late 2 value well into low to mid 3rd round range. The addition of Kearse (which was viewed as a negative) was us moving a few places lower in the third. This is just how GM's think in this league. It's all translated into net draft value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 1 hour ago, Hael said: Nope, not in net value! The 2 we got was a late round pick, b/c of Seattles record. We swapped 7th rounders (which is like a late six for a late 7). That's 14 points in standard trade value off the chart. The pushes our late 2 value well into low to mid 3rd round range. The addition of Kearse (which was viewed as a negative) was us moving a few places lower in the third. This is just how GM's think in this league. It's all translated into net draft value. Dude' we traded Sheldon for a 2nd and Kearney and swapped 7ths. We traded that second in the Darnold move up. Not a third, not a net value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 9 hours ago, Jet Nut said: No, the Jets got a second, not a third along with Kearse. And the comp was in no way what people here were saying we would get for "a lazy, malcontent, locker room cancer. One of the 2s that we used to ultimately get Darnold. @Hael‘s right. It was the trade value of a late 3rd. If it was a 2nd there wouldn’t have been a full season where we had neither Richardson nor the new draftee. If we got a 2nd at that time it’d have been a 2nd rounder that same year. A 2nd rounder you can draft/use now is not the same trade value as one you don’t get until a year later. Seattle made the calculation that Richardson would be a high priced UFA a year later and figured they’d recoup a 3rd round comp pick for him a year later. From their standpoint they were getting a 1 year $8MM rental for a player who’d cost more to replace on the FA market, and the cost for that was giving up a late 2nd rounder a year later & get back a late 3rd a year after that. (Kearse was a throw-in since they were going to cut him anyway.) They were legit SB contenders when they made the trade and it was pretty low risk high reward for them. As it turned out they had a worse season than expected and Richardson didn’t get a mammoth sized deal that’d get them that 3rd rounder in return. The trade was perfectly fine, but it was more Seattle unexpectedly rescuing our idiot GM from his own stupidity, not him being shrewd for holding onto 3 starting DTs for 2 years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STLuLu Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 I feel more enlightened now than I did 5 min ago after reading this thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rammagen Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 6 hours ago, #27TheDominator said: You are dramatically underrating Richardson. He earned an $8M contract off his performance in Seattle and 3/$37M off Minnesota. Kearse has been an inconsistent, unreliable WR for his entire career and the Lions just signed him for $1.35M with a chance to earn another $1M. They are not in the same stratosphere as players. Here is a snarky fact for insertion, should anyone so choose. Sheldon Richardson has as many interceptions in the years since he left the Jets as Jamal Adams. 3yrs with the files then how did he get to sign with the browns? Not to be snarky but he signed a one yr deal wit h the vikes and then a 3yr deal with the browns. And Adams has more aQB pressures and one less sack then to agree on last yr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joenamathwouldn'tcry Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 13 hours ago, Bruce Harper said: It definitely was odd. But the Bills didn't care to hold on to him either. I suspect that he is a hard guy to deal with. Seems to have a problem reporting for duty when he develops a Boo-boo or a Tummy Ache...…. Fine looking physical specimen, though. Looks like this dawg won't hunt... ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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