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2 hours ago, docdhc said:

Does it  bother anyone that he seemed to need convincing to take the job?  It was reported he didn’t want the job but was finally won over after several offers by an overwhelming financial sum and six year length of contract. Taking a job just for the money can lead to trouble later on. I hope he really wants it. 

I think this is make believe. Every job I’ve ever taken has been for money. I do a good job, because I want more money. 

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2 hours ago, docdhc said:

Does it  bother anyone that he seemed to need convincing to take the job?  It was reported he didn’t want the job but was finally won over after several offers by an overwhelming financial sum and six year length of contract. Taking a job just for the money can lead to trouble later on. I hope he really wants it. 

Not because it’s not true. Sexton worked the situation perfectly. 

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28 minutes ago, Sperm Edwards said:

Macc had 5 offseasons of compiling players. Idzik sucked and was deservedly fired, but he had just 2 offseasons to Macc's 5; the first of which was a full-on cap purge season post-Tannenbaum, in a weak draft to boot. Never took his chance to spend all the cap space he'd saved up, but that's the bed he made. Still, if you want to make an apples to apples comparison, at least compare the state of the team after the 2014 season to the team right after the 2016 season. 

Whatever. Hopefully the new GM makes it beyond arguable that he's not as bad as either of his 2 predecessors.

Very true, at the same time he should have hit the ball out of the park on his last draft but sh*t no one knew at the time it was going to be that bad, but he wasn't as bad as he is credited with. Couldve but we don't know.

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10 hours ago, docdhc said:

Does it  bother anyone that he seemed to need convincing to take the job?  It was reported he didn’t want the job but was finally won over after several offers by an overwhelming financial sum and six year length of contract. Taking a job just for the money can lead to trouble later on. I hope he really wants it. 

Look forget the money for a second any thinking person would have some trepidation going into a situation where they just fired four GMs in 8 years!!!

Only a nincompoop would run into a team that shows underlying organizational dysfunction. 

He basically said because of the Jets recent past they are a risky job and because of that real risk he should be accordingly compensated

None of that is crazy....

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10 hours ago, docdhc said:

Does it  bother anyone that he seemed to need convincing to take the job?  It was reported he didn’t want the job but was finally won over after several offers by an overwhelming financial sum and six year length of contract. Taking a job just for the money can lead to trouble later on. I hope he really wants it. 

He didn’t need convincing to take the job, his agent is just competent and manufactured and capitalized on his leverage to maximize the money for his client. 

Put yourself in Joe Douglas’s shoes, you literally started your career handing out resumes and driving prospects from the airport to the facility. You worked and paid your dues in your career for 20 years a vast majority or it working insane hours and traveling several hours every day. You finally get an offer for the biggest payday and basically the top position you can get at an organization since we don’t have anyone above a gm for infrastructure. Are you seriously considering turning that down? 

Both sides negotiated through the media here but It was probably pretty obvious and well known that the Jets wanted Douglas badly. Agent did well. Joe Douglas did well, and let’s be serious, the Jets shouldn’t be skimping on what is probably the most important role in the organization to be filled with a competent person. If Joe works out, he’s worth the money and then some. 

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Does it  bother anyone that he seemed to need convincing to take the job?  It was reported he didn’t want the job but was finally won over after several offers by an overwhelming financial sum and six year length of contract. Taking a job just for the money can lead to trouble later on. I hope he really wants it. 

That’s called successful negotiating. I’m not inside his head but have read that he really wanted the job all along.


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I think this clip from the post summarizes why Douglas could be the GM we have been searching for since forever.  I think some people forget the magnitude of the Chip Kelly mess that was left in Philly and was cleaned up rather quickly.

 

"Eagles owner Jeffrey Lurie called the hiring of Douglas “the pivotal moment of the last year” in March 2017, the year the Eagles would go on to win the Super Bowl. The Eagles were still dealing with the fallout of the Howie Roseman-Chip Kelly war and wanted someone to oversee personnel under Roseman. That was Douglas, who then played a critical role in bringing in some of the players who helped the Eagles win it all.

He is more than just a scout, though. Douglas is able to connect with people, something the Jets desperately need. Their last two GMs — Mike Maccagnan and John Idzik — had spent a long time in NFL scouting departments and front offices but neither was viewed as a “football guy” on the same level as the coaches. Both were bookish and never really connected with the coaches."

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Glad we got a respected GM but it does bother me that Chris Johnson came in with a low ball offer and only made the salary appealing once the Texans fired heir GM and his nuts got squeezed.   Final result is good but why was CJ always so afraid to spend some $ on a GM .     Was also shocked that the godfather Gil Brandt who rarely throws the Jets a compliment was extremely impressed with both the Gase and Douglas hires and Jets did a great job 

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6 minutes ago, Jetpain said:

Glad we got a respected GM but it does bother me that Chris Johnson came in with a low ball offer and only made the salary appealing once the Texans fired heir GM and his nuts got squeezed.   Final result is good but why was CJ always so afraid to spend some $ on a GM .     Was also shocked that the godfather Gil Brandt who rarely throws the Jets a compliment was extremely impressed with both the Gase and Douglas hires and Jets did a great job 

Not sure if I am correct but I thought I read the deal was struck before the Houston announcement.

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10 minutes ago, Jetpain said:

Glad we got a respected GM but it does bother me that Chris Johnson came in with a low ball offer and only made the salary appealing once the Texans fired heir GM and his nuts got squeezed.   Final result is good but why was CJ always so afraid to spend some $ on a GM .     Was also shocked that the godfather Gil Brandt who rarely throws the Jets a compliment was extremely impressed with both the Gase and Douglas hires and Jets did a great job 

That is BS its being reported the deal was in place and agreed upon before Texans even fired their gm... It's called negotiating, and with most jobs this information doesn't get leaked... But with ny media sharks, they feel the need to steal clicks somehow

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16 hours ago, T0mShane said:

What makes it different is that they gave him a lot of money, years, and control, which will make the job more appealing if/when Douglas moves on. This hire was a big-boy move and they stepped up to get it done.

Yo, my man! That's what I'm sayin.

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10 hours ago, Maxman said:

Does it bother me that the guy we just put in charge of the roster is a great negotiator? Hell no. He understood his worth, he didn't blink and he got more money.

The Jets need the person in this role to be tough because Gase is a nut job and someone has to keep him in check.

Agree, not just Gase but a sign that the Johnson brothers "ideas" are kept in check, especially if Woody returns 

"so explain to me how trading a 4th round pick for Tebow helps this team win games" 

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I don't get the lovefest with these guys (Gase and Douglas) because they haven't proven anything yet.  They are inheriting talent even though the record was abysmal.  My gut feeling: the Jets will be more competitive. But if next year the team is still floundering I know what to expect on this board. Most of us are hoping this regime is successful. So many of us are upbeat.  When you really think about it changes had to be made.  And the guys selected by the owner on paper are smart and young. Let's see if they can put together a good org. 

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14 hours ago, Integrity28 said:

I think this is make believe. Every job I’ve ever taken has been for money. I do a good job, because I want more money. 

Capitalism is actually a good thing

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5 hours ago, Bocajetfan said:

Not sure if I am correct but I thought I read the deal was struck before the Houston announcement.

The deal may or may not have been  before the announcement, but in view of the fact that the Texans tried to hire Douglas last year, and were denied permission, I'd be willing to bet a lot they contacted Sexton before the announcement.  Sexton then took care of his client Gase, and told him "If you want Douglas, go choke some money out of CJ, a deal with the Texans is about to go down"

The Texans were left holding their weenies, CJ was left with some bruises on his neck from Gase's fingers, and all of Sexton's clients are happy.

Great job Jimmy.  Thanks.

The New York Sexton's :)   

 

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22 hours ago, T0mShane said:

I’m settling for not-embarrassing-in-consecutive-years-peat so my bar is admittedly #low

I'd appreciate some non butt-fumble types performances plus some meaningful games during the holidays to start.

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I’m settling for not-embarrassing-in-consecutive-years-peat so my bar is admittedly #low
First thing you've said that I agree with. Feels strange

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On 6/8/2019 at 5:50 PM, David Harris said:

I like that it sounds like Douglas not only took care of himself financially but wanted to make sure the money was there to build out the organization with quality scouts and front office guys.

i know CJ got a lot of heat w the Mac fire timing and maybe he fell into this situation of having no competition for the best candidate but it has worked out beautifully.

A young FQB a young future all pro Safety leading the defense. A young offensive minded progressive HC who is on the same page as his GM. The best GM candidate in the NFL.   This is the team we root for- what a breath of fresh air.  

AND new uniforms

 

I think it may have been planned this way on purpose.  I'm sure there were no guarantees they were getting Douglas but they obviously knew what the GM landscape looked like and probably thought by making the move now they would get a head start on the GM search.  It could've very well just have been dumb luck but I'd like to think this time around they may have actually had a plan.

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4 hours ago, drsamuel84 said:

I think it may have been planned this way on purpose.  I'm sure there were no guarantees they were getting Douglas but they obviously knew what the GM landscape looked like and probably thought by making the move now they would get a head start on the GM search.  It could've very well just have been dumb luck but I'd like to think this time around they may have actually had a plan.

Me too, that’s my hope at least, that CJ had strategically planned it. The way it’s worked out for the Jets I wonder if this timing could actually trend.

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From the outside looking in, this looks like a good hire. However, this is only a good hire if the guy can follow the success that Ozzie Newsome had or even surpass it. He must draft well. That's 110% of the job.

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