Rsherman28 Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 This can be an interesting story to watch for until the July 15th deadline for the Texans to get a deal done with Clowney. (currently on the franchise tag). The Texans just fired there GM, it can be a toss up of how the new GM might feel about him. I personally would be shocked if a new GM came in and moved Clowney as the first move. I know he doesn't play Center or Corner back. Pairing him with our front 7 would be a great addition that might help these corners out with not having to cover as long. https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2840399-texans-rumors-jadeveon-clowney-not-expected-at-minicamp-despite-franchise-tag The Houston Texans reportedly don't expect defensive end Jadeveon Clowney at their mandatory minicamp Tuesday as he holds out for a long-term contract. ESPN's Adam Schefter reported the news. The Texans placed the franchise tag on Clowney this offseason, but he has not signed the tender, meaning he cannot be punished for missing mandatory workouts. Clowney, 26, is scheduled to make $16 million under the tag. The 2014 top overall pick recorded 47 tackles and nine sacks in 2018. The Texans and Clowney have until July 15 to agree on a long-term deal. Otherwise, he will have to play out the 2019 season on the franchise tag. Odds are Clowney will not be in camp until after that July date unless the two sides come to terms on a deal. Texans defensive coordinator Romeo Crennel told reporters it's been helpful to the team's backup linemen to get extra reps in offseason workouts. "If a guy like Clowney comes back, see where he is, we know what he can do when he is at the top of his game," Crennel said. "So we work with the guys we got here and hopefully, they can get better so that if somewhere down the road they have to go in the game and play, they can play at a high level." Clowney has been a Pro Bowler each of the last three seasons and was a first-team All-Pro in 2016. He hasn't become the NFL's best pass-rusher the way the Texans have hoped, but he's essential to their defense, especially since JJ Watt missed large chunks of playing time in two of the last three years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Doggin94it Posted June 11, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 11, 2019 This is the epitome of a non news story. There is not a single player who has been franchise-tagged in the past 5 years and who has not yet signed that tag who showed up for minicamp. He is not under contract, and if they're not going to sign him to a long-term deal, the odds are good that he does not sign his tender and show up until right before week one of the regular season. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sarge4Tide Posted June 11, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 11, 2019 "Jadeveon Clowney" is French for "Mohammed Wilkerson" 2 1 1 1 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rsherman28 Posted June 11, 2019 Author Share Posted June 11, 2019 27 minutes ago, Doggin94it said: This is the epitome of a non news story. There is not a single player who has been franchise-tagged in the past 5 years and who has not yet signed that tag who showed up for minicamp. He is not under contract, and if they're not going to sign him to a long-term deal, the odds are good that he does not sign his tender and show up until right before week one of the regular season. Its June in the NFL. Every story is the epitome of a non news story. Unless your team fire's your GM around this time of year. Kind of like the two teams we are talking about now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 53 minutes ago, Doggin94it said: This is the epitome of a non news story. There is not a single player who has been franchise-tagged in the past 5 years and who has not yet signed that tag who showed up for minicamp. He is not under contract, and if they're not going to sign him to a long-term deal, the odds are good that he does not sign his tender and show up until right before week one of the regular season. +1 Why would he show up to Houston’s minicamp while he’s not under contract? I suppose the “news” part is more to highlight that he still hasn’t signed his tender, and that’s why he’s not at mandatory minicamp. Especially with the ongoing actual news in their FO. There’s little in it for Clowney to sign now & show up now. Few of them want to be there when they aren’t obligated to be there; they’d rather be working out on their own, spending time with their family/friends, or doing whatever someone seriously wealthy wants to do. Many/most of them would love to skip it all until practice that week before the first game. They get game checks, not practice checks. He makes the same exact $ signing his tender later as he makes signing it today, except he’s going to incur that much more risk of serious injury on every/any given snap (soft tissue / nagging injuries due to lack of conditioning notwithstanding). The Texans outgoing and incoming GMs both know all this; it’s up to them to decide whether a player is worth the tag if he’s not going to show up to any practices until September and still pay him as though he’s going to have an elite season. If they don’t like it? Pay him what he’s asking for or release him to someone who will. Absent that they have little to complain about. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Harper Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 Is this guy really that good anyway? Hurt a lot. Hasn't played quite up to the hype, IMHO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 4 minutes ago, Bruce Harper said: Is this guy really that good anyway? Hurt a lot. Hasn't played quite up to the hype, IMHO. He’s so athletic that he’s going to naturally make some plays purely based off that but no he’s not THAT great but he is pretty damn good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Sperm Edwards said: +1 Why would he show up to Houston’s minicamp while he’s not under contract? I suppose the “news” part is more to highlight that he still hasn’t signed his tender, and that’s why he’s not at mandatory minicamp. Especially with the ongoing actual news in their FO. There’s little in it for Clowney to sign now & show up now. Few of them want to be there when they aren’t obligated to be there; they’d rather be working out on their own, spending time with their family/friends, or doing whatever someone seriously wealthy wants to do. Many/most of them would love to skip it all until practice that week before the first game. They get game checks, not practice checks. He makes the same exact $ signing his tender later as he makes signing it today, except he’s going to incur that much more risk of serious injury on every/any given snap (soft tissue / nagging injuries due to lack of conditioning notwithstanding). The Texans outgoing and incoming GMs both know all this; it’s up to them to decide whether a player is worth the tag if he’s not going to show up to any practices until September and still pay him as though he’s going to have an elite season. If they don’t like it? Pay him what he’s asking for or release him to someone who will. Absent that they have little to complain about. All true, but considering the lack of production of this player compared to the guys like Mack and Miller who set the price of his franchise tag #, he should have signed this thing the day it was offered to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Harper Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 2 hours ago, Sperm Edwards said: +1 Why would he show up to Houston’s minicamp while he’s not under contract? I suppose the “news” part is more to highlight that he still hasn’t signed his tender, and that’s why he’s not at mandatory minicamp. Especially with the ongoing actual news in their FO. There’s little in it for Clowney to sign now & show up now. Few of them want to be there when they aren’t obligated to be there; they’d rather be working out on their own, spending time with their family/friends, or doing whatever someone seriously wealthy wants to do. Many/most of them would love to skip it all until practice that week before the first game. They get game checks, not practice checks. He makes the same exact $ signing his tender later as he makes signing it today, except he’s going to incur that much more risk of serious injury on every/any given snap (soft tissue / nagging injuries due to lack of conditioning notwithstanding). The Texans outgoing and incoming GMs both know all this; it’s up to them to decide whether a player is worth the tag if he’s not going to show up to any practices until September and still pay him as though he’s going to have an elite season. If they don’t like it? Pay him what he’s asking for or release him to someone who will. Absent that they have little to complain about. One more thing in the negative column for a potential incoming GM, in addition to the perception that Bill O'Brien is ruling the roost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 2 hours ago, Sarge4Tide said: "Jadeveon Clowney" is French for "Mohammed Wilkerson" i don't think i'd go that far but even though he's made all pro a number of times you'd think he'd be feasting on qb's given he's playing on the same line as watts. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 3 hours ago, Sarge4Tide said: "Jadeveon Clowney" is French for "Mohammed Wilkerson" My French is rusty, but oui, this is vrai. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREENBEAN Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 This is the epitome of a non news story. There is not a single player who has been franchise-tagged in the past 5 years and who has not yet signed that tag who showed up for minicamp. He is not under contract, and if they're not going to sign him to a long-term deal, the odds are good that he does not sign his tender and show up until right before week one of the regular season.If this wasn’t written as just a collection of facts I would agree with you. This article is pretty good; merely reporting the situation which is actually news. If this same situation was coming from manish there would be a bunch of opinions and spun to create a bigger issue than there is. That’s what we’re used to around the Jets and and NY media. Making a side narrative around something that just “is”. I think this article is pretty good and now I know Clowny hasn’t signed his franchise tag. Thank goodness for that huh? Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 2 hours ago, Bruce Harper said: Is this guy really that good anyway? Hurt a lot. Hasn't played quite up to the hype, IMHO. Missed one game last season, 3 over the last 3 seasons. May not be all "that great" but he his last 3 seasons were 9 sacks, 9.5 sacks, 6 sacks. We havent had anything close to that, I would check the asking price. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDL_JET Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 I bet someone can eventually get him for cheap. 3rd or 4th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 30 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: Missed one game last season, 3 over the last 3 seasons. May not be all "that great" but he his last 3 seasons were 9 sacks, 9.5 sacks, 6 sacks. We havent had anything close to that, I would check the asking price. Never hurts to ask I guess, but he won't sign a $16,000,000 offer. Over $2,000,000 a sack is way to much. Pass 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LockeJET Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 We have an offensive minded HC and the GM is on the coaches side. No more big money is being put into this D right now. Build the offense and see what the kid from Florida does before we have to pay an underachieving defensive player close to 100 mil after giving up picks. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 28 minutes ago, flgreen said: Never hurts to ask I guess, but he won't sign a $16,000,000 offer. Over $2,000,000 a sack is way to much. Pass I could see him getting close. What did S Richardson get? 12 Mil? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hael Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 Clowney is sort of interesting as a player in terms of expectations vs reality. He is exactly the opposite of what was advertised, namely a splashy edge who makes spectacular plays but has a lot of downtime b/c of a suspect motor. Instead, he's the opposite, he doesn't make as many splashy plays, but he is consistently disruptive, plays fundamentally sound D and is one of the best run defenders at the edge in the league. For some reasons his pass rush moves are still a problem, and he doesn't win 1-1s vs elite Olines as much as one might have expected. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammybighead Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 Stop. We're not getting clowney 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolloffjet Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 10 minutes ago, Sammybighead said: Stop. We're not getting clowney Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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