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Chris Simm’s Top 40 QB countdown — Darnold #22


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3 minutes ago, k-met57 said:

 


Looking at the list of QB’s above him I think it’s fair. Sam just doesn’t have the production like a Trubisky does. I expect him to be top 10 next year.

 

I think it’s a fair spot for him too. We’re all going off the last four games of his rookie season. Darnold will be so much better this year. There just isn’t a scenario in my head where Sam takes a step back. He’s way too ahead of the curve, mentally. He’s getting better, stronger, watching film, he’s comfortable, he’s ultra talented. Next year is going to be a good year. I know it.

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5 hours ago, section314 said:

Pretty low bar to set, no?

no. no one said his ceiling is Trubisky.....point is Trubisky was a QB on a 12-4 team last year, Sam was a QB on the jets and missed a bunch of games....did u expect him to rank above Trubisky and Goff?

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6 hours ago, Patriot Killa said:

I think it’s a fair spot for him too. We’re all going off the last four games of his rookie season. Darnold will be so much better this year. There just isn’t a scenario in my head where Sam takes a step back. He’s way too ahead of the curve, mentally. He’s getting better, stronger, watching film, he’s comfortable, he’s ultra talented. Next year is going to be a good year. I know it.

I think “so much better” is an understatement.

He is going to have maybe the best RB in the league in the same backfield, who can also run go routes or turn 3rd and 7’s into firsts also catching passes, like a machine.

More chemistry with Anderson.  Chris Herndon is a beast (just saw footage of a 1 handed grab in practice, can’t remember the Jets having a TE, and nothing like this), he can get deep too.  Crowder is going to be deadly.

Gase calling the shots and not some moron playing every game “not to lose”.  This Offense is going to be sick, in time, but starting this year, If they get adequate play from a shaky Oline the Jets are going to roll quite a few teams this year.

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8 minutes ago, JoeWillieWhiteShoesHOF said:

I think “so much better” is an understatement.

He is going to have maybe the best RB in the league in the same backfield, who can also run go routes or turn 3rd and 7’s into firsts also catching passes, like a machine.

More chemistry with Anderson.  Chris Herndon is a beast (just saw footage of a 1 handed grab in practice, can’t remember the Jets having a TE, and nothing like this), he can get deep too.  Crowder is going to be deadly.

Gase calling the shots and not some moron playing every game “not to lose”.  This Offense is going to be sick, in time, but starting this year, If they get adequate play from a shaky Oline the Jets are going to roll quite a few teams this year.

Ah... Isn't it great to be a Jets fan in June? :cheergal:

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16 minutes ago, 14 in Green said:

Ah... Isn't it great to be a Jets fan in June? :cheergal:

This is why I prefer cautious optimism. I’d be lying if I said that I wasn’t excited or feeling much better about the future after firing Bowles and Mac. However, change doesn’t equal instant success or wins. It’s time for players/coaches/GM to talk with their production and success. I will gladly give well deserved praise if that happens. 

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52 minutes ago, JoeWillieWhiteShoesHOF said:

Crowder is going to be deadly.

This is what I’m most excited about. You guys just don’t even understand the damage and chemistry Darnold/Crowder are about to display. He’s going to be such a threat underneath and over the middle. This guy will be darnold’s new security blanket.

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Just now, Patriot Killa said:

This is what I’m most excited about. You guys just don’t even understand the damage and chemistry Darnold/Crowder are about to display. He’s going to be such a threat underneath and over the middle. This guy will be darnold’s new security blanket.

So...you're suggesting he's the Welker/Edelman role.  Would not be a bad thing.

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33 minutes ago, Kleckineau said:

Dont understand the Trubisky disrespect. Guy improved tremendously his 2nd year and seems level headed and very committed to the work that it takes. He will be a top QB for many years if he keeps it up.

he is not a top level passer, and that is how he is being judged being drafted as high as he was. go watch his games, take away like 4 games and the rest of his games are questionable.

you also have to take into account the team he is on with those monsters on D. i think he has a chance to be good....but he needs to take the next step  this year if its ever going to happen.

 

 

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1 hour ago, k-met57 said:

no. no one said his ceiling is Trubisky.....point is Trubisky was a QB on a 12-4 team last year, Sam was a QB on the jets and missed a bunch of games....did u expect him to rank above Trubisky and Goff?

There isn’t a GM in the NFL, including Chicago’s, who would take Trubisky over Sam. Point is, if those are the kind of guys ahead of him on this list, it will be a pretty   quick climb.

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39 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said:

This is what I’m most excited about. You guys just don’t even understand the damage and chemistry Darnold/Crowder are about to display. He’s going to be such a threat underneath and over the middle. This guy will be darnold’s new security blanket.

True, to add to security blanket #1...Le’Veon Bell.

Yeah, forgive them, they do not understand.

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10 hours ago, Kleckineau said:

Dont understand the Trubisky disrespect. Guy improved tremendously his 2nd year and seems level headed and very committed to the work that it takes. He will be a top QB for many years if he keeps it up.

I think Mitch is an athletic AF Mark Sanchez

Built up by an incredible defense and supporting cast on offense. I don’t think he reads the field especially well but he’s basically a running back when he takes off. I don’t see him elevating his team deep in the playoffs - JMO, time will tell

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6 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said:

Had him ahead of Kyler Murray (24).  So that's nice. 

I really don't get the buzz on this kid. Mayfield/Oklahoma/Heisman, ok, great. I get all that. Just not seeing it with Murray. I still don't love Trubisky but I'll admit I was wrong about him. He's better than I initially gave him credit for. Maybe I'm wrong on Murray too.

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9 hours ago, Jet9 said:

I really don't get the buzz on this kid. Mayfield/Oklahoma/Heisman, ok, great. I get all that. Just not seeing it with Murray. I still don't love Trubisky but I'll admit I was wrong about him. He's better than I initially gave him credit for. Maybe I'm wrong on Murray too.

QBase likes Murray, FWIW.  Among players who had less than 3 years of college starting experience, he had the 3rd highest grade since 1997 behind Alex Smith and Cam Newton. 

They did give him a pretty high bust projection (47 %), however.  And his chances of being an upper tier OR elite starter are only 25 % according to the model. 

And starting less than 3 years is generally correlated with some really bad QB busts.  Other guys who graded out well but had less than 3 years of starting experience include JaMarcus Russell, Vince Young, Tim Couch and Johnny Manziel. 

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