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1 hour ago, Charlie Brown said:

First people cheat all the time and they don't always get MASSIVE advantages out of the illicit behaviour.

Think folks that cheat just a little on their taxes or people shoplift.  People do these things all the time doesn't mean that they are going to be Billionaires as a result, but they do think that cheating gives them an advantage nevertheless.

In addition competitive advantage is one thing.... However hiring folks to go through opposing teams hotel rooms is another, signal stealing is another, illegal video taping is another, using illegal plays and formation is another, tampering with equipment is another and on and on and on........................

Competitive advantage is one thing but this type of stuff when added up is RIDICULOUS and NOOOOOO I wouldn't be happy or proud if the Jets were winning that way and I have used Vinny's magic helmet TD against Seattle as a time when I said "we got a gift and Seattle was robbed!" 

Second..........And as far as the NFL goes ..........

I think that you are 100% Correct here!

If I were the Commissioner of the NFL and something that could destroy the future of my sport or the entire industry were in my possession and either we release the info and destroy the NFL or we destroy some tapes and take some criticism.   All I could say is there would be this taking place right outside my window.

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On the other hand I am sometimes irrational  FAN of a rivile team so I can call out the BUMS all I like ..... :) 

All teams try to steal signs, it's why they cover themselves when talking.  Other teams have video taped,. All teams look for a competitive advantage whether it was the 89s niners with their headset trick, the Giants of those era with the wind at the meadowlands, NE having a snowplow guy clear the field, Shula not print down a tarp, BB taping opponents, etc...

It's whining from opponents, NE isn't winning because of the perceived cheating.  If that's why they won others would have won big too.  You think we haven't won since '68 because we don't cheat?

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18 minutes ago, nyjunc said:

@slats why is this ok?  Why can this poster constantly post garbage like this and get away with it?

Wow. Kettle meet black. After all your passive aggressive insulting behavior with anyone who disagrees with you, YOU’RE crying to the mods?

Please stop stalking me, please stop quoting me, put me on Ignore.

I get you’re a fan but please leave me alone. 

I like this board. 

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31 minutes ago, Peace Frog said:

By the way, if “you’re” going to be snarky, try not to sound like an illiterate fool whilst doing so. 

It’s “you’re” as in “you are”. 

Your is just...your. 

Illerate means you are unable to read or write.

it has nothing to do with using “your” correct or not you moron.

Hahahahahaha.  Cheese Frog!  Hahahahahaha.

 

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It’s ok to call someone stupid. To insult, to disparage, to abuse those you disagree without consequence. 

Then cry to the mods.

It’s embarrassing. 

 

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5 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said:

Illerate means you are unable to read or write.

it has nothing to do with using “your” correct or not you moron.

Hahahahahaha.  Cheese Frog!  Hahahahahaha.

 

If you can’t write properly, your words when read make you sound illiterate. 

Or is it “you’re”?

Hey, illiterate was my 5th option so I’ll be fine. 

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2 minutes ago, Peace Frog said:

It’s ok to call someone stupid. To insult, to disparage, to abuse those you disagree without consequence. 

Then cry to the mods.

It’s embarrassing. 

 

Cheese Frog, just dont go calling people illiterate when you obviously dont know what the word means.  Head up buddy.  You can come back from this.  Even pennington came in second in the mvp voting after his 3rd rotator cuff surgery.  

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11 hours ago, Joe W. Namath said:

Cheese Frog, just dont go calling people illiterate when you obviously dont know what the word means.  Head up buddy.  You can come back from this.  Even pennington came in second in the mvp voting after his 3rd rotator cuff surgery.  

You're (or your) weighing in on this too?

I'm not surprised.

Fifth option.

Hahahahaaaaaa.

 

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Just now, Charlie Brown said:

You and I look at things differently.

I am not just talking about winning.  

You keep going back to that.

And it is NOT the point. For me, IMO winning at all costs is a sickness.  For example, I have never said Brady was a BUM because of the Pats persistent and ubiquitous cheating. Indeed I think he is a fantastic QB but cheating impacts where I put him on the All Time QB ledger.  I will not place him over Otto Graham for example who was a big time winner who didn't benefit from structural organizational cheating.  

For you it is no big deal, I get it and I don't knock you for it...... 

But to me don't act like cheating doesn't matter and the destruction and burning of evidence was no big deal because they destroyed that evidence because it WAS a big deal and because everyone WASN'T doing it.

At the end of the day citing others who may have cheated in the NFL doesn't make the Pats skulduggery any better in the aggregate.

Finally whether it is cheating to get into elite schools like Harvard, or the Pats cheating on the football field cheating impacts far more than the those who directly benefited from the actual illicit behavior. 

 

You still don't understand that integrity of the process matters.

It’s the cult of millennials. Blame someone else for something that is so systematically wrong. It’s not your fault, it’s everyone else’s fault. Everyone does it. 

No. 

The Patriots took it to a whole-nother level. 

Goodell had no reason to burn the tapes. 

This wasn’t stickum or steroids or salary skirting.

This effected the outcome of a Super Bowl.

With billions bet on it.

 

 

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11 hours ago, Charlie Brown said:

You and I look at things differently.

I am not just talking about winning.  

You keep going back to that.

And it is NOT the point. For me, IMO winning at all costs is a sickness.  For example, I have never said Brady was a BUM because of the Pats persistent and ubiquitous cheating. Indeed I think he is a fantastic QB but cheating impacts where I put him on the All Time QB ledger.  I will not place him over Otto Graham for example who was a big time winner who didn't benefit from structural organizational cheating.  

For you it is no big deal, I get it and I don't knock you for it...... 

But to me don't act like cheating doesn't matter and the destruction and burning of evidence was no big deal because they destroyed that evidence because it WAS a big deal and because everyone WASN'T doing it.

At the end of the day citing others who may have cheated in the NFL doesn't make the Pats skulduggery any better in the aggregate.

Finally whether it is cheating to get into elite schools like Harvard, or the Pats cheating on the football field cheating impacts far more than the those who directly benefited from the actual illicit behavior. 

Simple integrity of the process matters.

this is the point I am trying to make. There is a level where you do not pass and when passed you can not condone. Stealing signals is one thing taping signals, breaking into rooms is going way to far, along with not covering a field. These should be punished severely and not swept under the rug. Integrity, honesty mean something more. Would accept you Bellicheats behavior from a family member? if not why would you accept it from a stranger?

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11 hours ago, Charlie Brown said:

You and I look at things differently.

I am not just talking about winning.  

You keep going back to that.

And it is NOT the point. For me, IMO winning at all costs is a sickness.  For example, I have never said Brady was a BUM because of the Pats persistent and ubiquitous cheating. Indeed I think he is a fantastic QB but cheating impacts where I put him on the All Time QB ledger.  I will not place him over Otto Graham for example who was a big time winner who didn't benefit from structural organizational cheating.  

For you it is no big deal, I get it and I don't knock you for it...... 

But to me don't act like cheating doesn't matter and the destruction and burning of evidence was no big deal because they destroyed that evidence because it WAS a big deal and because everyone WASN'T doing it.

At the end of the day citing others who may have cheated in the NFL doesn't make the Pats skulduggery any better in the aggregate.

Finally whether it is cheating to get into elite schools like Harvard, or the Pats cheating on the football field cheating impacts far more than the those who directly benefited from the actual illicit behavior. 

Simple integrity of the process matters.

Professional teams try to win at all costs.  Look at Kansas City and Tyreek Hill.  If Hill want a great player how fast do you think they cut him?

I'm with you, I don't believe in cheating but that's not the reality.  If we think the Jets haven't done things to gain an advantage then we are kidding ourselves.  It was just like the steroid era in baseball (by the way, players still use PEDs and always will), it was happening on every team.  As fans we need to just focus on the field.

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On 8/12/2019 at 7:52 AM, nyjunc said:

My arguments destroy your weak arguments but please keep trying.

LOL.  

Being destroyed was never such a victory!

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12 hours ago, Joe W. Namath said:

Illerate means you are unable to read or write.

it has nothing to do with using “your” correct or not you moron.

Hahahahahaha.  Cheese Frog!  Hahahahahaha.

 

Stop name calling. Thanks. 

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He's not wrong....

 

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001041212/article/mayfield-people-want-browns-to-lose-because-of-hype

Mayfield: People want Browns to lose because of hype

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  • By Kevin Patra
  • Around the NFL Writer
  • Published: Aug. 14, 2019 at 09:07 a.m.
  • Updated: Aug. 14, 2019 at 09:27 a.m.

 

The Cleveland Browns pulled a tire-screeching U-turn, going from laughingstock to hyped Super Bowlcontender in an offseason.

The unique flip has players going from digging themselves out from the avalanche of refuse, to contending with the pressure of expectations that seem to rise with each week. There was no middle ground in Cleveland.

In an interview with Complex Sports, quarterback Baker Mayfield said the Browns will deal with the expectations the same as they did last year.

"I'd say the chatter doesn't matter," Mayfield said. "The expectations for us within the locker room last year were higher than what we accomplished. Outside the locker room, people threw us in the trash before the season. They didn't expect much out of us just because, the year before that, [the] Browns were 0-16. So, you know, you can only go up from there. And I think now we need to have the same mentality. It stays within that locker room."

Mayfield said the growing expectations don't add any on-field pressure but stem from those in the media who want to see him, and the Browns, lose.

"You've got to believe in it and take it one week at a time. Because I wouldn't say that everybody wants to beat us," he said. "I think in the media and everything that comes with the hype around our team right now, people want to see us lose, just because the hype is so real. But we've got to go out there and take it one week at a time. We're trying to win every week."

Mayfield added: "It went from having excitement over Bud Light coolers being opened to now people waiting to see us lose so they can say, 'Oh, they got too hyped up.' That's why you've got to have an even-keel mindset when it comes to that stuff.''

Mayfield playing the 'us against the world card' came out earlier than expected.

Sure, a few aging critics who have consciously picked a fight with the quarterback because it's good for ratings might be rooting for the Browns to fail. Perhaps those in Baltimore or Pittsburgh hope to keep Cleveland under its thumb. The majority of people outside those realms, including in the media, aren't in that boat. Anyone who knows someone who is a Cleveland football fan wants the Browns to succeed. A person from a city whose sports team has been dreadful for decades wants the Browns to be good, if only because it might open the possibility that it could be their team turning it around one day. NFL Network was at Browns' camp seemingly every other day during Inside Training Camp Livewith nothing but glowing praise for Mayfield, Myles Garrett and others -- signaling that Cleveland being good is good for business.

Athletes need to steel themselves against the vocal minority, which leads to comments like Mayfield's -- I get that -- but most people aren't rooting for the Browns to fail. A drastic turnaround behind a rising star QB, a WR traded away by his former high-profile team, a first-time coach, a defense that on any other squad would be the hyped band, would be a story for the decade. People love good stories.

A few might caution that the hype could spiral out of control, but right now they are the minority.

If Mayfield chooses to focus on the few to provide some type of motivation, that's his prerogative. The rest of us can block out the noise and enjoy the coming show.

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Baker Mayfield rips Giants' selection of Daniel Jones: 'Blows my mind'

It appears as if a little of Odell Beckham Jr. is rubbing off on Cleveland Browns quarterback Baker Mayfield, who recently took an unprovoked shot at the New York Giants and rookie quarterback Daniel Jones.

While sitting down with GQ Magazine, Mayfield happened to catch a spot on SportsCenter about the Giants and Jones, which interrupted the questioning and led to some faulty criticism.

“I cannot believe the Giants took Daniel Jones. It blows my mind,” Mayfield said. “Some people overthink it. That’s where people go wrong. They forget you’ve gotta win.”

Mayfield was speaking of Jones’ 17-19 record at Duke, which was hindered greatly by the lack of NFL quality talent around him. It by no means defines Jones as a player — which has been evident this summer — but clearly Mayfield needed to get his shots in.

The irony, of course, is that Mayfield is a “loser” at the NFL level with a 6-7 record, while his newest receiver has done nothing but lose since entering the NFL (save for 2016, which was an anomaly that ended with Beckham’s worst career game and a punched hole in the Lambeau Field wall).

But Mayfield is clearly feeling himself. Despite a recent history of failure, the Browns are riding high this year as the hype train is already off the tracks. However, why that makes Mayfield comfortable enough to stick his nose in another man’s business and rip a kid he doesn’t even know is unclear — sometimes arrogance just likes to hear itself.

The Giants and Browns don’t play in 2019, but they will in 2020. And that will most certainly be a game worth circling on your calendars.

 
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3 minutes ago, Legend Killa7 said:

can you imagine if this a$$ clown was our QB and said that?  oh man....it would be like Rex 2.0!  "yeah the Jets will be the best football team in NY for the next 10 years"  less than 1 yr later midgets win SB.  yeah thanks Rex!

who needs that crap?  just shut up and play!

He just cant seem to STFU.

Its one idiotic comment a week Baker.  He can play, just cant get enough of himself.  WTF has he won?

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1 minute ago, Warfish said:

Jet Nation's obsession with all thing Mayfield and all things Giants is bordering on clinical....

The Big Mouth QB is using his Big Mouth to have the back of his fellow Big Mouth WR by trashing his former team.

Is that a surprise?  Do we care?  Should we care? 

And why should we care if he "shuts up"?  Let him talk, if it distracts him from play on the field, that only helps us.  So let him yap all he wants.

I think the term you're looking for regarding OUR team is "dodged a bullet"

whew!!

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Just now, Legend Killa7 said:

I think the term you're looking for regarding OUR team is "dodged a bullet"

whew!!

I think you and I would disagree on that point, I'd have been very happy to have drafted Mayfield, and his yapping (while not my preference) is irrelevant if he backs it up on the field.

It's amazing to me that a fanbase who loved/loves Joe Namath now hated Baker Mayfield, the 2019 version of Joe Namath in terms of bravado and a big mouth.  

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15 minutes ago, Jet Nut said:

Baker Mayfield rips Giants' selection of Daniel Jones: 'Blows my mind'

It appears as if a little of Odell Beckham Jr. is rubbing off on Cleveland Browns quarterback Baker Mayfield, who recently took an unprovoked shot at the New York Giants and rookie quarterback Daniel Jones.

While sitting down with GQ Magazine, Mayfield happened to catch a spot on SportsCenter about the Giants and Jones, which interrupted the questioning and led to some faulty criticism.

“I cannot believe the Giants took Daniel Jones. It blows my mind,” Mayfield said. “Some people overthink it. That’s where people go wrong. They forget you’ve gotta win.”

Mayfield was speaking of Jones’ 17-19 record at Duke, which was hindered greatly by the lack of NFL quality talent around him. It by no means defines Jones as a player — which has been evident this summer — but clearly Mayfield needed to get his shots in.

The irony, of course, is that Mayfield is a “loser” at the NFL level with a 6-7 record, while his newest receiver has done nothing but lose since entering the NFL (save for 2016, which was an anomaly that ended with Beckham’s worst career game and a punched hole in the Lambeau Field wall).

But Mayfield is clearly feeling himself. Despite a recent history of failure, the Browns are riding high this year as the hype train is already off the tracks. However, why that makes Mayfield comfortable enough to stick his nose in another man’s business and rip a kid he doesn’t even know is unclear — sometimes arrogance just likes to hear itself.

The Giants and Browns don’t play in 2019, but they will in 2020. And that will most certainly be a game worth circling on your calendars.

 

Cleveland won 1 game in the 2 seasons before Baker, they were on their way to 0-2 into he saved them against us.  His "loser" receiver carried an offense with a bad QB and the reason he has mostly lost is because of that QB.

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Well I guess I was 1-1 with Mayfield.  I thought he was going to be an excellent NFL QB, but I thought he would mature at the NFL level.  At the time I wanted Mayfield over Sam.

Doesn't look like Mayfield is ever going to grow up.  Really glad that the Browns took Mayfield and Darnold fell to the Jets.  IMO, in the long run Darnold is going to be the more successful QB

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Thread title should have included VictorCruz80 as well as Baker fans.... 😁 

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I like how half the article is just taking shots at Beckham, who has nothing whatsoever to do with this story, capped off by this gem:

37 minutes ago, Jet Nut said:

while his newest receiver has done nothing but lose since entering the NFL (save for 2016, which was an anomaly that ended with Beckham’s worst career game and a punched hole in the Lambeau Field wall).

“Beckham has done nothing but lose, except for that one time he went to the playoffs, but uhh that doesn’t count.”

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Nobody really cares when guys who have All-Pros and/or Super Bowls on their resume mouth off.  TO was entertaining.  even Chad Johnson.  Because they had sustained periods of great play behind them.  The danger for Mayfield is that he hasn't got anything to point to yet.  So if he stumbles, even a little, the NFL world is going to pounce and rightly so. 

So he's all in.  Either be great or be the butt of every joke.  This is who he has always been so I'll give him points for consistency on that.

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Baker is very entertaining and will most likely be a very good QB. Baker is also a very big a$$hole and very hard to root for. And this thread will go a very many pages with very long-winded posts arguing these very self-evident issues.

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41 minutes ago, Jet Nut said:

Baker Mayfield rips Giants' selection of Daniel Jones: 'Blows my mind'

It appears as if a little of Odell Beckham Jr. is rubbing off on Cleveland Browns quarterback Baker Mayfield, who recently took an unprovoked shot at the New York Giants and rookie quarterback Daniel Jones.

But Mayfield is clearly feeling himself. Despite a recent history of failure, the Browns are riding high this year as the hype train is already off the tracks. However, why that makes Mayfield comfortable enough to stick his nose in another man’s business and rip a kid he doesn’t even know is unclear — sometimes arrogance just likes to hear itself.

The Giants and Browns don’t play in 2019, but they will in 2020. And that will most certainly be a game worth circling on your calendars.

 

Odell Beckham Jr. is rubbing off on Baker Mayfield

Mayfield is clearly feeling himself

Mayfield comfortable enough to stick his nose in another man’s business.

This is what I took from this article. 

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33 minutes ago, Warfish said:

Jet Nation's obsession with all thing Mayfield and all things Giants is bordering on clinical....

The Big Mouth QB is using his Big Mouth to have the back of his fellow Big Mouth WR by trashing his former team.

Is that a surprise?  Do we care?  Should we care? 

And why should we care if he "shuts up"?  Let him talk, if it distracts him from play on the field, that only helps us.  So let him yap all he wants.

This.

Furthermore, we all get all over #33 when he opens his mouth, but I have to admit, #33 is not a millimeter of the bigmouth idiot(s) that Beckhole and Minefield are. Like I always say when one of our players mouths off, STFU and go win some games first. Nobody cares and nobody wants to listen to losers talking $hit. It looks ridiculous.

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25 minutes ago, Warfish said:

I think you and I would disagree on that point, I'd have been very happy to have drafted Mayfield, and his yapping (while not my preference) is irrelevant if he backs it up on the field.

It's amazing to me that a fanbase who loved/loves Joe Namath now hated Baker Mayfield, the 2019 version of Joe Namath in terms of bravado and a big mouth.  

Unfortunately, I was not alive for Namath, but different times, man.  Namath would not have lasted in this day and age.  Sucks for these guys that they are held to such high standards, but it is what it is.

and I personally do not HATE Baker.  I was prepping myself for him to be our QB last year because all logical signs pointed to Sam going #1.  I knew he had talent, but that he was just such a jacka$$.....again, I was not alive for Namath, but what everyone talks about is "the guarantee" - that is not the same as what Baker does!  Joe said WE will win the game, etc etc.  he never said: "we will win the game because Baltimore sucks and has been overhyped; their QB can't hit the ocean from a boat" etc.  Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think Joe was the type to talk trash about another team's #1 draft pick?

as for the "obsession" with Baker and giants:  I don't think there's an obsession with Baker.  people just talk about what's happening in the NFL.  Last night, Jimmy G had a terrible game.  there is now a thread here about that.  obsession?  Baker keeps running his mouth.  when he does, there is a thread on here.

now the midgets is a different story.  whether you like to believe it or not, we are the "little brother" to the giants.  sucks, but until the Jets start winning some SBs, you really got nothing to say to a giants fan.  and to have someone like Baker come here - as a JET - and say what he said about Daniel-sahn.....holy crap - what a mess!  Now if Baker had just won 2 SBs with the Jets, sure yap all you want, but not when you're 6-7 in your NFL career!

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