jack48 Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 2 hours ago, Dcat said: yes. But for cap purposes, still $12 million unamortized from bonus. Save $11 mill on salary next year but swallow $12 mill in dead cap. $15 mill cap hit if he stays. ugh. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 1 hour ago, JoeWillieWhiteShoesHOF said: I am in total agreement with your entire post. Although there is an outlier to your girl theory. You ever been to Pennsylvania or Southern NJ? hahahaha. I’m from Allentown, PA! Filled with the heavier set around here. I like the petite ones tho ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bocajetfan Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 9 minutes ago, Ghost said: I’m from Allentown, PA! Filled with the heavier set around here. I like the petite ones tho ? Many years ago when I was first married I went into a dress shop to get my then wife an outfit for her birthday. Knew nothing about women’s clothing. Will try to be politically correct. My ex being tiny I went into the petite section. Had no idea you could be a chubby petite ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony MaC Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 Tru was a big disappointment, and he'll have the full year to prove he's worth keeping around. Though I must say, even if he WAS an all-pro kind of CB I'd be leery at keeping him under the cap hits he's about to get. 15, 17 and then 18.5 the next three years, oof. Though I guess he just has to be good enough to be worth the 3 million they get by cutting him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljr Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 LOL. Mean fat girls are 30% of the Democrat party 75% of their body mass indexSent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJ1 Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 15 hours ago, Philc1 said: As optimistic as I am about this upcoming season I am very concerned about the secondary. I know Bowles stunk and was an empty suit head coach but Trumaine Johnson, who is supposed to be our #1 cover corner and at the very least the starting #2 and an every down player, his problems last year were not just schemes or lack therof. The guy looked slow -- 2015 Darrelle Revis slow. I know we can't cut him now and we can't even get a replacement it's too late but this guy absolutely has to be cut next offseason. 2019 is a put up or shut up season for Johnson. Whether we like it or not, it's not conducive to wise salary cap management to cut him. So he's going to get a shot at justifying the money he was paid. But I must comment, imagine how BAD the Jets would get over time if we still had Mac as GM? We'd eventually have 11 Darron Lee and Trumaine Johnson type players on defense. Can you even imagine how truly bad that would be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChickenLittle Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 Can we see how the guy plays in 2019 before we send him to the glue factory? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelScott Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 On 6/15/2019 at 1:59 PM, Philc1 said: As optimistic as I am about this upcoming season I am very concerned about the secondary. I know Bowles stunk and was an empty suit head coach but Trumaine Johnson, who is supposed to be our #1 cover corner and at the very least the starting #2 and an every down player, his problems last year were not just schemes or lack therof. The guy looked slow -- 2015 Darrelle Revis slow. I know we can't cut him now and we can't even get a replacement it's too late but this guy absolutely has to be cut next offseason. I felt the same way about the corner position all offseason and I'm recently realizing a lot of that worry was a side effect from Bowels and Mac. I might be wrong, but somehow I'm less concerned about the position since the coaching and GM change. I've got some hope that if that unit is an obvious weakness in practice, Douglas will do something to address it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJ1 Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 21 hours ago, Jet_Engine1 said: LOL. Mean fat girls are 30% of the Democrat party Fat chicks need love to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 On 6/15/2019 at 2:38 PM, rangerous said: unless i'm mistaken he's got too much of a cap hit through 2020. after that he can be cut without much hit. but really. he just got to the jets and when a team goes 4-12, it means nobody is playing well. where do you start to make changes and where do you stop? Quote $3M cap saving, but $12M dead money in 2020. This is shaping up to one of the worst Jets contracts ever unless he comes up with a reversal this year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJ1 Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 22 hours ago, Jet_Engine1 said: LOL. Mean fat girls are 30% of the Democrat party And free abortions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raideraholic Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 8 hours ago, MichaelScott said: I felt the same way about the corner position all offseason and I'm recently realizing a lot of that worry was a side effect from Bowels and Mac. I might be wrong, but somehow I'm less concerned about the position since the coaching and GM change. I've got some hope that if that unit is an obvious weakness in practice, Douglas will do something to address it. One ex Dolphin coach once said it best " you can't make chicken salad, out of chicken crap" applies. What can a GM , or a coach do at that point to address the situation (weakness) in camp. Basically has to wait for the offseason to address that problem in Fa , and the draft. Those weakness should have been addressed in this years offseason. ( why you have a new GM after having over a 100 million to spend in Fa - yet you didn't address the biggest weaknesses . It's like trading K Mack right before the season starts, and not getting anything back that's going to help you in 2018. You're basically throwing the season away. ( the time to move him was during the 2018 draft). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 in a year or two Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREENBEAN Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 On 6/15/2019 at 9:38 PM, Tony MaC said: Tru was a big disappointment, and he'll have the full year to prove he's worth keeping around. Though I must say, even if he WAS an all-pro kind of CB I'd be leery at keeping him under the cap hits he's about to get. 15, 17 and then 18.5 the next three years, oof. Though I guess he just has to be good enough to be worth the 3 million they get by cutting him. It's interesting that he has chosen not to attend the voluntary OTA sessions. I wonder if he is involved with a similar training style regimen as Leveon where he is working on specifics to him. It's crazy that we have't really seen or heard a thing about what he's doing during that time. We know what every single talking head thinks about Bell but not a word on Tru. Seems like it would be important too. no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREENBEAN Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 5 hours ago, Raideraholic said: One ex Dolphin coach once said it best " you can't make chicken salad, out of chicken crap" applies. What can a GM , or a coach do at that point to address the situation (weakness) in camp. Basically has to wait for the offseason to address that problem in Fa , and the draft. Those weakness should have been addressed in this years offseason. ( why you have a new GM after having over a 100 million to spend in Fa - yet you didn't address the biggest weaknesses . It's like trading K Mack right before the season starts, and not getting anything back that's going to help you in 2018. You're basically throwing the season away. ( the time to move him was during the 2018 draft). Hey, the Jets cut a rookie Atari Bigby after the 4th preseason game where he had two picks. SO dumb. Guys can be had later in the offseason and preseason cuts. It's not always gonna fall the way we need it to, but it is possible. I would think they'd look into bringing Claiborne back too. Even if it's just as depth. He has to be better than the 4th CB at the moment. I wonder why he hasn't really gotten any attention this offseason. I bet it's a money thing. he may just think he's worth much more than teams are willing to give him. That said, I'm almost hoping they don't do that so we can really see what we have with guys like Roberts and Nickerson. I think Nickerson has some real potential. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYs Stepchild Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 14 minutes ago, GREENBEAN said: Hey, the Jets cut a rookie Atari Bigby after the 4th preseason game where he had two picks. SO dumb. Guys can be had later in the offseason and preseason cuts. It's not always gonna fall the way we need it to, but it is possible. I would think they'd look into bringing Claiborne back too. Even if it's just as depth. He has to be better than the 4th CB at the moment. I wonder why he hasn't really gotten any attention this offseason. I bet it's a money thing. he may just think he's worth much more than teams are willing to give him. That said, I'm almost hoping they don't do that so we can really see what we have with guys like Roberts and Nickerson. I think Nickerson has some real potential. How dumb was cutting Bigby? In fact no one picked him up after we cut him. He was signed to the Packers practice squad more than a month later. Don't sleep on Derrick Jones. He should have gotten more playing time last year. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREENBEAN Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 5 minutes ago, NYs Stepchild said: How dumb was cutting Bigby? In fact no one picked him up after we cut him. He was signed to the Packers practice squad more than a month later. Don't sleep on Derrick Jones. He should have gotten more playing time last year. The fact that Bigby had two picks in his last preseason game, it was hard to see how they cut him. At least that's how I remember it. I know I definitely thought he should have made the team. It's a little scary to go into the season with unknowns at the CB position, but we have a few guys who really should get a shot. You will never know what you have if they rarely get to play. We may just have the next hidden gem already on the roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 On 6/15/2019 at 10:59 AM, Philc1 said: The guy looked slow -- 2015 Darrelle Revis slow. Barkley took his lunch money, ffs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 39 minutes ago, NYs Stepchild said: I think Nickerson has some real potential. i thought so for a millisecond last year. but he was atricious when he was on the field. just horrendously clueless. his rating reflected this too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYs Stepchild Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, Losmeister said: i thought so for a millisecond last year. but he was atricious when he was on the field. just horrendously clueless. his rating reflected this too. I don't remember saying Nickerson had real potential. I'd keep him on the roster as he is good backup for the slot, and has some potential to start there. I said to watch Derrick Jones. He has real potential to be a good #2 corner. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonderboy Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 The Browns would have cut this fool on the day after the season. If he plays as badly as last year, Williams will dog this bum and blacklist him making him an outcast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 On 6/16/2019 at 8:13 AM, ChickenLittle said: Can we see how the guy plays in 2019 before we send him to the glue factory? he better be all world this coming year then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelScott Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 13 hours ago, Raideraholic said: One ex Dolphin coach once said it best " you can't make chicken salad, out of chicken crap" applies. What can a GM , or a coach do at that point to address the situation (weakness) in camp. Basically has to wait for the offseason to address that problem in Fa , and the draft. Those weakness should have been addressed in this years offseason. ( why you have a new GM after having over a 100 million to spend in Fa - yet you didn't address the biggest weaknesses . It's like trading K Mack right before the season starts, and not getting anything back that's going to help you in 2018. You're basically throwing the season away. ( the time to move him was during the 2018 draft). What can you do at that point (once in camp)? You find someone better. No, you're not likely to find an all pro thats available via trade or FA signing. I tend to think that if there is literally NO ONE avail that's better than what you have, what you have probably isnt THAT BAD. What I meant was I am tired of coaches that hit week 1 and act like they are surprised that a unit that looked horrible all summer ended up playing like crap during the season . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYs Stepchild Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 52 minutes ago, Wonderboy said: The Browns would have cut this fool on the day after the season. If he plays as badly as last year, Williams will dog this bum and blacklist him making him an outcast. ? What would the Browns's do? We should start a sticky post for this question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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