Jets0712 Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 He and Bates can go backpacking for a year or 3 and ponder what went wrong??Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlife33 Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 John Idzik released this statement after his firing: "I would like to thank Woody Johnson for the opportunity to work with so many fine individuals in the Jets organization and I wish them well going forward." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 On 6/19/2019 at 1:14 AM, Untouchable said: I’d just retire if I was Macc Why go from making $2 million a year as a GM to back to being an area scout constantly on the road profiling kids at Saginaw Valley State for $45k a year? Love of the game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
British Jet Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 He’ll probably have a non-disclosure agreement signed that’ll stop him talking for many a year. Besides, who really needs to hear his side of the story? Let him sit in a coffee shop watching RedZone in peace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Untouchable Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 53 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said: Love of the game? I guess Plenty have said that Macc is a scout at heart. Seemed like he was out and about evaluating college talent more than most GM’s. Just too bad he has been mediocre at best at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 2 hours ago, Sarge4Tide said: I think I saw him working at a Dunkin Donuts outside Atlanta He was probably the owner 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rex-n-effect Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 What benefit could he gain by talking to the media? He won't burn the Jets because that is basically the one thing that will guarantee no team hires him in the future in any role. If he tells the truth about the decisions made about his job he will sound like he is criticizing the Jets. If he defends his own decisions it will sound like criticizing the Jets. There is nothing he could say right now that would help his career other than a generic expression of gratitude to the team. He might still be contractually limited in what he can say to the press because he is still being paid so that might also be an issue. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 7 hours ago, NYJ1 said: He'll be fine. He probably won't be in charge of players again for a while, but he'll end up with another NFL franchise. He will land on his feet. You guys are a bunch of cruel yahoos for the things you're saying/thinking/posting. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 7 hours ago, NYJ1 said: And don't get so carried away? Joe Douglas COULD end up being another jibroni. You never know. We just THINK it's a good hire right now. Mike Maccagnan was about to get fired from his job as Director of Scouting by the Texans, an organization that has never made it past the Divisional Round of the playoffs in its history. The Eagles were doing everything they could to keep Joe Douglas, who won a Super Bowl with the Eagles and worked under Ozzie Newsome for 15 years. It's a good hire. Maccagnan was a bad hire. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 Mac's new job, decent free coffee 24/7 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJ1 Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 5 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said: Mike Maccagnan was about to get fired from his job as Director of Scouting by the Texans, an organization that has never made it past the Divisional Round of the playoffs in its history. The Eagles were doing everything they could to keep Joe Douglas, who won a Super Bowl with the Eagles and worked under Ozzie Newsome for 15 years. It's a good hire. Maccagnan was a bad hire. Let's see how accurate you are 4 years from now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 Let's see how accurate you are 4 years from now.No, because that’s not what I’m arguing. I’m arguing that the process by which the 2 GMs were hired was very different, as well as the pedigree of each.Macc was a poorly executed hire. This was a good hire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet hustle Posted June 21, 2019 Author Share Posted June 21, 2019 On 6/19/2019 at 6:43 AM, Joe W. Namath said: The Jets just re-upped him last year so hes sitting pretty right now. He wont have to work for awhile if he doesnt want to. Right... so the alternative is to sit home, smell your wifes farts and execute honey do lists 4 days out of the week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJ1 Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 22 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said: No, because that’s not what I’m arguing. I’m arguing that the process by which the 2 GMs were hired was very different, as well as the pedigree of each. Macc was a poorly executed hire. This was a good hire. Wth does the hiring process have to do with anything? What matters is who will ultimately end up being the best GM. Who gives a sh*t about the hiring process? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 On 6/20/2019 at 6:42 AM, Sarge4Tide said: I think I saw him working at a Dunkin Donuts outside Atlanta Free coffee 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 13 hours ago, Jet hustle said: Right... so the alternative is to sit home, smell your wifes farts and execute honey do lists 4 days out of the week. Where do I signup? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 Wth does the hiring process have to do with anything? What matters is who will ultimately end up being the best GM. Who gives a sh*t about the hiring process? The hiring process the last 4 GM hires was atrocious, and led to atrocious results.This hire was done competently.I think that’s worth caring about. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJ1 Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 8 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said: The hiring process the last 4 GM hires was atrocious, and led to atrocious results. This hire was done competently. I think that’s worth caring about. Well I don't and I'll guarantee you right now about draft time the fan base won't give a hoot how Douglas was hired. The ONLY thing anyone cares about is, "Can he draft talent?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 He’s getting paid not to be the GM for another year , the end of 2020 I believe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 On 6/20/2019 at 11:51 AM, Bugg said: Mac's new job, decent free coffee 24/7 Hmmm... Dunkin' Donuts or Law School? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 On 6/20/2019 at 11:33 AM, Jetsfan80 said: Mike Maccagnan was about to get fired from his job as Director of Scouting by the Texans, an organization that has never made it past the Divisional Round of the playoffs in its history. Where did this come from? I dont ever remember hearing this until Macc was fired here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjets1969 Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 17 hours ago, NYJ1 said: Wth does the hiring process have to do with anything? What matters is who will ultimately end up being the best GM. Who gives a sh*t about the hiring process? I think what he is saying Mac had no track record should never been considered for the Job while Douglas has experience in working with 2 organizations that won SBs and constantly went to the playoff. Mac worked as a scout in a organization that had a dismal record who when they made the playoffs couldn't win more then a game. I agree with him only reason Mac was hired was he was close to Casserly from his Washington Redskin days same with Bowles it was a terrible hiring process that a former GM who the Jets trusted used them to get his friends hired. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 Well I don't and I'll guarantee you right now about draft time the fan base won't give a hoot how Douglas was hired. The ONLY thing anyone cares about is, "Can he draft talent?" Duh. This would be true regardless of the hire. You’re not adding any valuable insight into the discussion here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 22 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Duh. This would be true regardless of the hire. You’re not adding any valuable insight into the discussion here. and you are? your opinion of what constitutes a superior hiring process means about as much as the sh-t my pug just took on my neighbors lawn. The fact is that if this is a playoff roster, which I believe it could be, then it was Macc who built it. If Douglas can improve on that while being able to handle Gases mood swings then it was a good hire. no one cares who liked him in Philadelphia. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 5 minutes ago, Pac said: and you are? your opinion of what constitutes a superior hiring process means about as much as the sh-t my pug just took on my neighbors lawn. The fact is that if this is a playoff roster, which I believe it could be, then it was Macc who built it. If Douglas can improve on that while being able to handle Gases mood swings then it was a good hire. no one cares who liked him in Philadelphia. You owning a pug is too on brand for words, really. 1 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 27 minutes ago, CrazyCarl40 said: You owning a pug is too on brand for words, really. Was gonna say the same exact thing, lol 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 18 hours ago, Pac said: and you are? your opinion of what constitutes a superior hiring process means about as much as the sh-t my pug just took on my neighbors lawn. The fact is that if this is a playoff roster, which I believe it could be, then it was Macc who built it. If Douglas can improve on that while being able to handle Gases mood swings then it was a good hire. no one cares who liked him in Philadelphia. Douglas needs to rebuild the entire O-Line by 2021 because of Mike Maccagnan. And your opinion means less than mine given that a few weeks ago you were ripping the owner for having the audacity to fire a bad GM in the spring. Oh the horror! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 On 6/20/2019 at 8:59 PM, Jetsfan80 said: No, because that’s not what I’m arguing. I’m arguing that the process by which the 2 GMs were hired was very different, as well as the pedigree of each. Macc was a poorly executed hire. This was a good hire. Honestly, Joe Douglas was hired because of his relationship with Gase. That is why the Jets went at him so hard. It had nothing to do with pedigree, the Eagles wanting to keep him or any of that stuff. That being said, this doesn't make it a bad hire. I think Douglas will be good and I am really excited about next seasons draft where there are a lot of skill players available in the first round but let's be honest. Gase wanted him and CJ was making Gase's approval a priority. That is why he was hired. At least he seems like a good hire despite the process was once again flawed and dysfunctional. Seems to be the flavor for the way ownership does things here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 Just now, More Cowbell said: Honestly, Joe Douglas was hired because of his relationship with Gase. That is why the Jets went at him so hard. It had nothing to do with pedigree, the Eagles wanting to keep him or any of that stuff. That being said, this doesn't make it a bad hire. I think Douglas will be good and I am really excited about next seasons draft where there are a lot of skill players available in the first round but let's be honest. Gase wanted him and CJ was making Gase's approval a priority. That is why he was hired. At least he seems like a good hire despite the process was once again flawed and dysfunctional. Seems to be the flavor for the way ownership does things here. Isn't it possible that Gase wanted Douglas BECAUSE he knows Douglas is competent? Yes, they worked well together. Probably because all Gase wants to do is win, and knows Douglas has the capability of making that happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 12 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Isn't it possible that Gase wanted Douglas BECAUSE he knows Douglas is competent? Yes, they worked well together. Probably because all Gase wants to do is win, and knows Douglas has the capability of making that happen. Ok, so you think the hiring of the GM should fall to a HC who has been here for a hot minute and has not really accomplished much in the league? Again, it might turn out well. On the surface he seems like a good hire but this is not how it should be done. Your newly minted HC shouldn't be making these decisions. I mean is Gase BB or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 6 minutes ago, More Cowbell said: Ok, so you think the hiring of the GM should fall to a HC who has been here for a hot minute and has not really accomplished much in the league? Again, it might turn out well. On the surface he seems like a good hire but this is not how it should be done. Your newly minted HC shouldn't be making these decisions. I mean is Gase BB or something? When the ownership is completely incompetent, absolutely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 8 minutes ago, More Cowbell said: Ok, so you think the hiring of the GM should fall to a HC who has been here for a hot minute and has not really accomplished much in the league? Again, it might turn out well. On the surface he seems like a good hire but this is not how it should be done. Your newly minted HC shouldn't be making these decisions. I mean is Gase BB or something? 1 minute ago, Jetsfan80 said: When the ownership is completely incompetent, absolutely. To add to this, here's what I said in a different thread last month: On 5/16/2019 at 12:15 PM, Jetsfan80 said: In 2001, Paul Tagliabue told us to hire Herm Edwards, so we did. In 2009, we hired Rex Ryan despite the Ravens opting to give their HC job to a ST Coordinator over him. In 2013, Korn Ferry told us to hire John Idzik, so we did. In 2015, Charlie Casserly told us to hire Mike Maccagnan and Todd Bowles, so we did. I'll take the military coup. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 4 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: When the ownership is completely incompetent, absolutely. That's pretty much my point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 1 minute ago, More Cowbell said: That's pretty much my point. The hire was basically taken out of the hands of the owners this time around. So you should be agreeing with me that Gase making that call is better than the Johnson's heading up the hiring process, no? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: To add to this, here's what I said in a different thread last month: 2019, Adam Gase told us to hire Joe Douglas, so we did. How is this different from the processes you just pointed out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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