Jetster Posted July 3, 2019 Share Posted July 3, 2019 This Jamal Adams stuff is hilarious. EVERYONE in the NFL believes & many have actually STATED that Jamal Adams is a very, very good player.....except a few Jet fans, lol. Granted, we ALL KNOW due to hindsight that Mahomes should have been the pick but we lucked out & the Giants passed on Darnold. Soon we'll have a All Pro QB (Darnold), RB (Bell), Safety (Adams), LB (Mosely), TE (Herndon), & DT (QW), and hopefully Leo so I'm cool with the way things have fallen into place for our Jets. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted July 3, 2019 Share Posted July 3, 2019 23 hours ago, TeddEY said: 24th ranked pass defense in yards per game. 17th ranked in Y/A. The answer is either, no. Or, yes and it doesn't matter. 23 hours ago, TeddEY said: Seems as if opposing offenses missed this memo. Maye doesn't even have his shoes tied in this photo. No wonder he's always hurt. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy2020 Posted July 3, 2019 Share Posted July 3, 2019 The Bills safety tandem has similiar, if not better numbers, and they cost less, used no draft capital and get interceptions. You don't even have to leave the division to see how silly it is to invest significant resources into the position. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Jet Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 On 7/3/2019 at 10:53 AM, rangerous said: they are certainly a huge upgrade over gilchrist and hitman pryor and probably better than any other tandem in jets history. Bring back LaRon Landry and Eric Smith, I say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 17 hours ago, Jetster said: This Jamal Adams stuff is hilarious. EVERYONE in the NFL believes & many have actually STATED that Jamal Adams is a very, very good player.....except a few Jet fans, lol. Granted, we ALL KNOW due to hindsight that Mahomes should have been the pick but we lucked out & the Giants passed on Darnold. Soon we'll have a All Pro QB (Darnold), RB (Bell), Safety (Adams), LB (Mosely), TE (Herndon), & DT (QW), and hopefully Leo so I'm cool with the way things have fallen into place for our Jets. Sounds like a recipe for another Patriots Superbowl. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 On 7/4/2019 at 3:39 AM, Aussie Jet said: Bring back LaRon Landry and Eric Smith, I say. laron was pretty good but only stayed for a season. they don't have the same body of work that maye and adams have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 On 7/2/2019 at 11:58 AM, Jetsfan80 said: When you use a # 6 and # 39 pick on safeties, they better damn well be the best tandem in the league. and yet, they're not. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 Pats have better safeties. Belichick would laugh at this. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 The # 1 pass defense last year was the Bears, with a tandem of Eddie Jackson (PFF # 1 Safety) and Adrian Amos (# 8). They lost Amos to free agency and replaced him with Clinton-Dix (# 17). The Rams had the # 9 pass defense and reached the Super Bowl with John Johnson (# 9) and Lamarcus Joyner (# 28). They replaced Joyner this offseason with Eric Weddle (# 10). I'd say those are your 2 best bets for top Safety duo in 2019. Even if you could argue that Adams is the best Safety in the game, Maye just can't stay healthy. Jackson was a 4th rounder, Amos a 5th rounder and Johnson a 3rd rounder, by the way. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raideraholic Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 I know you're going to call me a homer but the Raiders trio Of FS /Ss/ NCb Lamarcus Joyner , Ss Jonathan Abram( rookie) FS- K Joseph will prove to be more effective safety trio than the Jets duo. All three will be on the field together when teams play with three Wr sets. L Joyner will play NCb.( J Crowder) FS - K Joseph. SS - Johnathan Abram ( rookie first rounder ) - Chris Herndon . When only two Wr FS Lamarcus Joyner Ss Johnathan Abram . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 I know you're going to call me a homer but the Raiders trio Of FS /Ss/ NCb Lamarcus Joyner , Ss Jonathan Abram( rookie) FS- K Joseph will prove to be more effective safety trio than the Jets duo. All three will be on the field together when teams play with three Wr sets. L Joyner will play NCb.( J Crowder) FS - K Joseph. SS - Johnathan Abram ( rookie first rounder ) - Chris Herndon . When only two Wr FS Lamarcus Joyner Ss Johnathan Abram . Like clockwork, this one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PepPep Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 On 7/2/2019 at 4:08 PM, NYJ1 said: Doubtful. Jamal is amongst the very best Safeties today. However, with that said it's really hard to tell what the hell Maye is with how often he's injured? The simple fact is he looks really good in VERY limited playing time. So to say they are the best Safety tande? I think that's absurd. When they have a few years of injury free play complimenting each other's playing style, then, and only then could such a thing even be suggested. Then I think that should go for other safety tandems too, correct? Yes Maye has a history of injuries and missed 10 games last year. However, he played all 16 the previous year and has only been in the league for 2 seasons. So I'm not sure why people act like he can't EVER get on the field. Its not VERY limited playing time, its just the guy missed 10 games last year. I think the fact that other safety tandems have been around a lot longer and have been able to create a reputation hurts Maye and Jamal. But some of those guys are injury prone too...just maybe didn't miss ten games last year like Maye. In that sense you're right, if Maye ends up missing half the season again , we can start to say, well Adams is really good but Maye is hurt a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PepPep Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 14 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said: The # 1 pass defense last year was the Bears, with a tandem of Eddie Jackson (PFF # 1 Safety) and Adrian Amos (# 8). They lost Amos to free agency and replaced him with Clinton-Dix (# 17). The Rams had the # 9 pass defense and reached the Super Bowl with John Johnson (# 9) and Lamarcus Joyner (# 28). They replaced Joyner this offseason with Eric Weddle (# 10). I'd say those are your 2 best bets for top Safety duo in 2019. Even if you could argue that Adams is the best Safety in the game, Maye just can't stay healthy. Jackson was a 4th rounder, Amos a 5th rounder and Johnson a 3rd rounder, by the way. Just gonna say that although I completely agree that Maye is injury prone and has struggled with a variety of injuries throughout his career, this notion that he never plays b/c he is hurt or can't get on the field is false. We have a very small sample size right now since Maye has only been in the league 2 seasons. He played ALL 16 games his rookie year and missed 10 games last year. Yes, missing 10 games is a lot. But people act like he has only played a handful of games for the Jets and so we either have no idea what he brings to the table or that he is a wasted pick b/c he never plays and that is simply not accurate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenFish Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 Can’t see how they’re not at least top 5. 4th seems about right. Maye needs to prove he can stay healthy. Im thinking our safety tandem takes another leap forward this year because of the pressure up front. Also, Adams won’t be asked to do as much with Mosley on the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenFish Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 14 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said: The # 1 pass defense last year was the Bears, with a tandem of Eddie Jackson (PFF # 1 Safety) and Adrian Amos (# 8). They lost Amos to free agency and replaced him with Clinton-Dix (# 17). The Rams had the # 9 pass defense and reached the Super Bowl with John Johnson (# 9) and Lamarcus Joyner (# 28). They replaced Joyner this offseason with Eric Weddle (# 10). I'd say those are your 2 best bets for top Safety duo in 2019. Even if you could argue that Adams is the best Safety in the game, Maye just can't stay healthy. Jackson was a 4th rounder, Amos a 5th rounder and Johnson a 3rd rounder, by the way. I agree. Those two teams have a better pairing partly because Maye seems to always be banged up. The one thing to note though is that the Bears and Rams have two elite pass rushers causing QBs to make bad decisions. Those teams have better corners as well. We still don’t have a complete defense. Hopefully our pass rush is improved with Q and Polite. Our corner situation is oh boy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 6 hours ago, Raideraholic said: I know you're going to call me a homer That's only part of what we're going to call you. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 7 hours ago, Raideraholic said: I know you're going to call me a homer but the Raiders trio Of FS /Ss/ NCb Lamarcus Joyner , Ss Jonathan Abram( rookie) FS- K Joseph will prove to be more effective safety trio than the Jets duo. Three guys are generally more effective than two, yes 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYs Stepchild Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 7 hours ago, Raideraholic said: I know you're going to call me a homer but the Raiders trio Of FS /Ss/ NCb Lamarcus Joyner , Ss Jonathan Abram( rookie) FS- K Joseph will prove to be more effective safety trio than the Jets duo. All three will be on the field together when teams play with three Wr sets. L Joyner will play NCb.( J Crowder) FS - K Joseph. SS - Johnathan Abram ( rookie first rounder ) - Chris Herndon . When only two Wr FS Lamarcus Joyner Ss Johnathan Abram . Looks like another SB...and the rich just get richer. The Raiders last won the division in 2002. Isn't that enough for you? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 I agree. Those two teams have a better pairing partly because Maye seems to always be banged up. The one thing to note though is that the Bears and Rams have two elite pass rushers causing QBs to make bad decisions. Those teams have better corners as well. We still don’t have a complete defense. Hopefully our pass rush is improved with Q and Polite. Our corner situation is oh boy.It’s almost as if Safety isn’t that important... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 4 hours ago, PepPep said: Then I think that should go for other safety tandems too, correct? Yes Maye has a history of injuries and missed 10 games last year. However, he played all 16 the previous year and has only been in the league for 2 seasons. So I'm not sure why people act like he can't EVER get on the field. Its not VERY limited playing time, its just the guy missed 10 games last year. I think the fact that other safety tandems have been around a lot longer and have been able to create a reputation hurts Maye and Jamal. But some of those guys are injury prone too...just maybe didn't miss ten games last year like Maye. In that sense you're right, if Maye ends up missing half the season again , we can start to say, well Adams is really good but Maye is hurt a lot. But....if Maye doesn't get hurt & now with Gregg Williams here bringing a more aggressive style of play they could be the best. Adams will be great year 3 sans getting injured. Any player can get injured so you just never know. Guys get injured in camp in this league & miss large swaths of games. You know how you help your team especially the defense in this league? You minimize the amount of snaps they play by getting off the god damn field on 3rd downs & control the game with your offense. The Pats every year are top 3 in offensive snaps! That means every time the announcer says, that's another 1st down, the defense has time come off the clock, more rest, more time to look at what the offense is trying to do, coaches get more time to strategize. More offensive control, more points, allows the defense to attack, hopefully be more aggressive on 3rd downs, play less snaps & inccur less injuries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14 in Green Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 11 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said: Like clockwork, this one. Yeah. Who saw that coming? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 Yeah. Who saw that coming?Why does the rest of the league even try? The next 5 Super Bowls belong to Oakland/Las Vegas. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonderboy Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 Maye and Adams. The best of the worst wannabe should be tandem in NFL. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 On 7/5/2019 at 4:44 PM, Matt39 said: Pats have better safeties. Belichick would laugh at this. Not if Maye stays healthy. Adams is already closing in on McCourty & Maye will definitely be better than Chung. BB let Chung go & then brought him back. Pats SCHEME has been better than the Jets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 On 7/2/2019 at 5:01 PM, Joe W. Namath said: Hahahahahaha. Not even close. Maye stinks. Maybe has injuries issues but I love the way he plays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 Maybe has injuries issues but I love the way he plays.He plays like a man who doesn’t care if he gets injured. He’s a walking catch-22. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raideraholic Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 On July 6, 2019 at 2:29 PM, Jetsfan80 said: Why does the rest of the league even try? The next 5 Super Bowls belong to Oakland/Las Vegas. Probably not next year as the travel schedule is brutal . First two at home , and seven games on the road.( counting a home game in London) . There are like five teams ( Jets,. Giants , and three others) you add up all their travel miles together , and it's not more than the Raiders. Mayock put a first class scouting team together , very young deep roster on both sides of the ball, going to state with no income tax, and new spanking new Stadium/ training facility. You might not be that far off after that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 Probably not next year as the travel schedule is brutal . First two at home , and seven games on the road.( counting a home game in London) . There are like five teams ( Jets,. Giants , and three others) you add up all their travel miles together , and it's not more than the Raiders. Mayock put a first class scouting team together , very young deep roster on both sides of the ball, going to state with no income tax, and new spanking new Stadium/ training facility. You might not be that far off after that. How about next 8 Super Bowls? That’s crazy talk right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJF71 Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 One doesn't play and the other doesn't force enough turnovers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 12 hours ago, DJF71 said: One doesn't play and the other doesn't force enough turnovers. Sounds dominant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 Maye is always broken, so, no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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