Popular Post Embrace the Suck Posted July 4, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 4, 2019 Imagine if Coffee* wasn't fired and the hiring process didn't happen. This boring time we're in would have started a month earlier. The downtime is probably less bearable currently though from being built up with what could be a franchise moving front office hire, a new coach, and Sam going into his second season. In a few weeks this place is going to explode and it's going to surge into the season. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post Maxman Posted July 4, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Embrace the Suck said: Imagine if Coffee* wasn't fired and the hiring process didn't happen. This boring time we're in would have started a month earlier. The downtime is probably less bearable currently though from being built up with what could be a franchise moving front office hire, a new coach, and Sam going into his second season. In a few weeks this place is going to explode and it's going to surge into the season. I know I always bring stats into it, but the site is up 56.50% this year (page views) compared to last. Every month pretty except June has been over a million page views. June was up 62% vs last year. I totally agree with what you wrote, things are going to explode once camp starts. So many story lines. So much to report on. Big thank you to @KRL for covering the 1st week of Jets camp for us again this year. 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post T0mShane Posted July 4, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 4, 2019 2 hours ago, Embrace the Suck said: Imagine if Coffee* wasn't fired and the hiring process didn't happen. This boring time we're in would have started a month earlier. The downtime is probably less bearable currently though from being built up with what could be a franchise moving front office hire, a new coach, and Sam going into his second season. In a few weeks this place is going to explode and it's going to surge into the season. I think what Gase has brought, mostly, is an organizational confidence that we haven't seen here since Parcells. Gase stared down the owner and the media and came out on top in both instances, in spades. Dude already has two of the big three pelts any Jets coach needs to take if he's going to be successful. The third one is Belichick, and Gase has a pretty solid history against him already. 19 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 1 minute ago, T0mShane said: I think what Gase has brought, mostly, is an organizational confidence that we haven't seen here since Parcells. Gase stared down the owner and the media and came out on top in both instances, in spades. Dude already has two of the big three pelts any Jets coach needs to take if he's going to be successful. The third one is Belichick, and Gase has a pretty solid history against him already. His record against Belly is one of the first things that made me take the guy seriously. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, Maxman said: His record against Belly is one of the first things that made me take the guy seriously. Oh we just casually call him "belly" now? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Maxman Posted July 4, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 4, 2019 1 minute ago, T0mShane said: Oh we just casually call him "belly" now? 3 1 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embrace the Suck Posted July 4, 2019 Author Share Posted July 4, 2019 36 minutes ago, Maxman said: I know I always bring stats into it, but the site is up 56.50% this year (page views) compared to last. Every month pretty except June has been over a million page views. June was up 62% vs last year. I totally agree with what you wrote, things are going to explode once camp starts. So many story lines. So much to report on. Big thank you to @KRL for covering the 1st week of Jets camp for us again this year. Oh, for sure the place has definitely been busier this year, and it was already busy. Other team sites I've visited do nowhere near the volume this place does all year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post David Harris Posted July 4, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 4, 2019 Without Gase we don’t have Douglas or the leap forward in the FO hirings a lot of things feel good different 10 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Adoni Beast Posted July 4, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 4, 2019 Always liked Gase, and whatever initial concerns about him seem to have been Miami media propaganda because he completely disregarded them. His record in games that Tannehill started is the most important stat for me. If he can win like that with a QB who talent level is a decent back up, then we have reason to be excited. The other validation for me is Joe Douglas. The hottest name for GM, who could have had any job he wanted next season, took this job. Noway he takes this job if he doesn’t think Gase is a good coach. Sure he bought himself insurance with the 6 year deal to fire Gase if need be and hire his own guy, but he obviously thinks highly of Gase. 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 8 hours ago, Maxman said: His record against Belly is one of the first things that made me take the guy seriously. And he did it without good QB play, now he has talent to work with at QB. It's going to be fun. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kleckineau Posted July 4, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 4, 2019 After A.G.s first year in Miami I thought we were going to witness a shift in power in the AFCE from NE to Miami. Of course eventually reality slapped me and I figured I was wrong....again...as usual. Now I'm thinking / hoping the Phins gave up way too quick and fired a young, top flight HC like what the NYJ did when they canned Pete Carroll. Or Im just wrong....again....as usual. 4 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 5 minutes ago, Kleckineau said: After A.G.s first year in Miami I thought we were going to witness a shift in power in the AFCE from NE to Miami. Of course eventually reality slapped me and I figured I was wrong....again...as usual. Now I'm thinking / hoping the Phins gave up way too quick and fired a young, top flight HC like what the NYJ did when they canned Pete Carroll. Or Im just wrong....again....as usual. There won't be a shift until Brady retires, the good news is that it has to be within the next couple of years, right? And we are set up to take over if Sam is for real. Actually, I like what NYJ, buf and Miami are doing so it could be a real fight once Brady retires although Miami hired an ex NE coach and the only one with any success is O'Brien and he hasn't really done anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 8 hours ago, Maxman said: His record against Belly is one of the first things that made me take the guy seriously. 2-4 with one of the wins being a miracle lateral play? ? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 Yeah its great that the failed coach of a div rival who was hour 2nd or 3rd choice as coach just fired our gm and then hired a new one taking total control of the team within a bout a month of being here. Mac should have been gone via our dumbo owner so the new guy could have helped choose a coach. I like Douglas and think he will be a big improvement but I am not sold on Gase. He'll start paying dividends when we win some games and he helps Darnold do so. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genot Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 1 hour ago, nyjunc said: And he did it without good QB play, now he has talent to work with at QB. It's going to be fun. They won 10 games his 1st year because their defense was ranked 5th in the league that year. they ranked near the bottom in the league in offense. I'm just warning everybody, that Gase as a HC hasn't fielded an offense that ranked higher than 26th in the league. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embrace the Suck Posted July 4, 2019 Author Share Posted July 4, 2019 Just now, Beerfish said: Yeah its great that the failed coach of a div rival who was hour 2nd or 3rd choice as coach just fired our gm and then hired a new one taking total control of the team within a bout a month of being here. Mac should have been gone via our dumbo owner so the new guy could have helped choose a coach. I like Douglas and think he will be a big improvement but I am not sold on Gase. He'll start paying dividends when we win some games and he helps Darnold do so. It is great, and here's why: Gase clearly isn't coming in as some passive check casher looking to just get by for the next 4 years. Nor would I call him a failed coach as he took over a sh*te team (his first HC position in the NFL, it's not like he's some 3 decade deep retread who's lost everywhere he's been), split with the pats*, then shot his way out of town when he saw the organization sucked. Correct, Mac should have been gone sooner and you like Douglas also so where's the problem? Of course september - february will matter more than june - july but the point was imagine how boring june would have been without Gase pushing his weight around (presumptuously). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jet Nut Posted July 4, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 4, 2019 22 minutes ago, Beerfish said: Yeah its great that the failed coach of a div rival who was hour 2nd or 3rd choice as coach Hard to make this many mistakes in one sentence. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoni Beast Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Kleckineau said: After A.G.s first year in Miami I thought we were going to witness a shift in power in the AFCE from NE to Miami. Of course eventually reality slapped me and I figured I was wrong....again...as usual. Now I'm thinking / hoping the Phins gave up way too quick and fired a young, top flight HC like what the NYJ did when they canned Pete Carroll. Or Im just wrong....again....as usual. From what I’ve read, Gase wanted to try and win and Stephen Ross wanted the team to tank (which they are). Gase had already planned to fire defensive coordinator Matt Burke and had a plan for replacing him. He also had decided that he would move on from quarterback Ryan Tannehill and sign a bridge quarterback and probably draft a rookie for the future — assuming he could identify the right draft pick. And that’s a solid plan for a team trying to win. But the Dolphins are going in an opposite direction now because that’s what Ross has been convinced is best. So Gase no longer made sense for the Dolphins. And the Dolphins no longer made sense for Gase Read more here: https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/armando-salguero/article223850050.html#storylink=cpy 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embrace the Suck Posted July 4, 2019 Author Share Posted July 4, 2019 2 hours ago, Kleckineau said: Now I'm thinking / hoping the Phins gave up way too quick and fired a young, top flight HC like what the NYJ did when they canned Pete Carroll. Yup, and for once (20 years now) we aren't the 'break in period' team for a first time HC. That always sucks. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 10 hours ago, David Harris said: Without Gase we don’t have Douglas or the leap forward in the FO hirings a lot of things feel good different and to think of the twisted panties over gases weird intro teleconference... smfh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 Let's see what happens. They were saying that Brodie Van Wageron was going to be great too and so far the answer is he's not. One thing about Gase that you can't dispute. He wants to win and will do anything to accomplish it. Look he basically has nowhere to go but up. This should be a better team in '19. If not it falls on him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 11 hours ago, T0mShane said: I think what Gase has brought, mostly, is an organizational confidence that we haven't seen here since Parcells. Gase stared down the owner and the media and came out on top in both instances, in spades. Dude already has two of the big three pelts any Jets coach needs to take if he's going to be successful. The third one is Belichick, and Gase has a pretty solid history against him already. I, too, am happy that Gase did a hostile takeover of the entire franchise without even coaching a game yet. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsplayer21 Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 11 hours ago, T0mShane said: I think what Gase has brought, mostly, is an organizational confidence that we haven't seen here since Parcells. Gase stared down the owner and the media and came out on top in both instances, in spades. Dude already has two of the big three pelts any Jets coach needs to take if he's going to be successful. The third one is Belichick, and Gase has a pretty solid history against him already. That and Balls. Bowles and mac Bedrooms were both painted pink. Gaze saw how bad mac was, lazy, and lacked balls. Just glad we have a gm who knows what he is doing. We didn’t need anymore guys “ playing out of their position “ Bowles and Rex belonged as DCs. Mac should never have been a gm, he was a good at being a coffee boy 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 40 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said: I, too, am happy that Gase did a hostile takeover of the entire franchise without even coaching a game yet. My hot take is that coups are usually GOOD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BROOKLYN JET Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 43 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said: I, too, am happy that Gase did a hostile takeover of the entire franchise without even coaching a game yet. He coached in Miami and IMO over achieved there. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 27 minutes ago, T0mShane said: My hot take is that coups are usually GOOD They literally result in everyone dying eventually. Every time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said: They literally result in everyone dying eventually. Every time. I’ll admit I haven’t studied many coups or coup-related fallout 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BettyBoop Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 I wonder what would have happened had Mac been fired in January. Would Douglas have picked Gase as his head coach??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 3 hours ago, genot said: They won 10 games his 1st year because their defense was ranked 5th in the league that year. they ranked near the bottom in the league in offense. I'm just warning everybody, that Gase as a HC hasn't fielded an offense that ranked higher than 26th in the league. He hasn't had a QB, he has one now and it doesn't matter how you win. Bill belichick is a defensive coach and his dynasty is led by the offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 1 hour ago, BROOKLYN JET said: He coached in Miami and IMO over achieved there. Overachieved each season, the opposite of Bowles who underachieved each season 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genot Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 13 minutes ago, nyjunc said: He hasn't had a QB, he has one now and it doesn't matter how you win. Bill belichick is a defensive coach and his dynasty is led by the offense. I agree with what you said. The premise is that he's some offensive guru. His Dolphin teams haven't really proven that point. I'm just saying, as i've said all along. He hasn't proven anything. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genot Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 2 hours ago, T0mShane said: My hot take is that coups are usually GOOD Hope we're not getting Castro or Pinochet Tom. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 30 minutes ago, genot said: I agree with what you said. The premise is that he's some offensive guru. His Dolphin teams haven't really proven that point. I'm just saying, as i've said all along. He hasn't proven anything. He has a lot to prove but I think (I hope) it's going to be a good marriage here. I'm really excited to watch this team and in particular this offense. It's going to be fun. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 1 hour ago, BettyBoop said: I wonder what would have happened had Mac been fired in January. Would Douglas have picked Gase as his head coach??? I don't think they would have hired Douglas in January. He was Gase's guy. CJ probably would have hired another slug 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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