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The Underrated Aspect of Greg Williams' Presence On The Jets

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52 minutes ago, Greenseed4 said:

I like soup. 

Whats the soup du jour?

 

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He will have that experience for a whole year or two before Williams wears out his welcome.   

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3 hours ago, The Crusher said:

Soup is good 

Only potato soup and wedding soup. Stew is the way to go. 

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5 hours ago, Butterfield said:

He will have that experience for a whole year or two before Williams wears out his welcome.   

by then the defense will be humming along and everyone will know their jobs.  Who ever comes in after him will have hard nosed players, not a bunch of wimps

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11 hours ago, Grandy said:

Both forum goers and media vultures alike have been discussing the great mind, and evident defensive upgrade that Gregg Williams brings to the Jets. Y'know, the obvious points of him being a seasoned and aggressive defensive mind. However as I was eating soup on my couch, a thought came across my mind; Williams will also be great for our offense, and most importantly our Red-Headed savior. The main reason is simply that our offense will have to practice against his top defense. 

We have a young QB with all of the potential to be a top 5 Elite QB. So it's only beneficial for his development to be practicing against an aggressive and efficient defense. Flash back to week 3 of last year, one of Darnold's 3 weak performances came against Gregg Williams and his defense. Receivers didn't have separation, Darnold was running for his life, and the offense as a whole was rendered ineffective. Now that he has to face that defense everyday in practice (which is easily more of a challenge than what Bowles and Rodgers put out on the field), it'll help him grow and become better. Because if he can learn to pick apart, and read a defense of that caliber, he'll be much better equipped to face the rest of the NFL.

No doubt Greg Williams is a big upgrade at DC for the Jets . Still as a Dolphin coach once said - you can't make chicken salad , out of chicken sh*t .

As good as Greg Williams is -  can he cover up their lack of Cb's , and Lb's that can cover. Not to mention can they generate a consistent outside pass rush. 

All of  those are legitimate concerns, and maybe he  can improve the pass rush somewhat by designing exotic blitz packages.   Still when you have to blitz that much , you open yourself up getting burn badly. 

The  Jets need young players at those positions mention to setup and prove they can get the job done.

Greg Williams can only put the players in position to be successful, they have to execute his plan.( are they up to it).      

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You can lead a horse to  water and Gregg will make them drink....which really has nothing to do with football horses mostly...now he can light a fire under your ass that worked when we were youngens. Remains to be seen now.

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7 hours ago, jetfan39 said:

by then the defense will be humming along and everyone will know their jobs.  Who ever comes in after him will have hard nosed players, not a bunch of wimps

The defenses are better after he leaves, Ill give you that.  But, I think thats just because the next coach is better.  

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I could do a decent job compared to Kacey Rogers. The man was employed because he was the Head Coach’s best friend!

Accountability is a major improvement  he will bring, from the slack outfit ran by Rogers.

The whole outfit is different, from H.C, D.C and F.O. It’s a longggg time since we had professionals running the place.

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6 hours ago, Raideraholic said:

No doubt Greg Williams is a big upgrade at DC for the Jets . Still as a Dolphin coach once said - you can't make chicken salad , out of chicken sh*t .

As good as Greg Williams is -  can he cover up their lack of Cb's , and Lb's that can cover. Not to mention can they generate a consistent outside pass rush. 

All of  those are legitimate concerns, and maybe he  can improve the pass rush somewhat by designing exotic blitz packages.   Still when you have to blitz that much , you open yourself up getting burn badly. 

The  Jets need young players at those positions mention to setup and prove they can get the job done.

Greg Williams can only put the players in position to be successful, they have to execute his plan.( are they up to it).      

I remember how much of a weakness this was under Rex, even with a top 5 defense. It's going to be painful to watch 3rd and short if we can't cover the RB. 

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Ah the old “practice defense” argument. Sanchez faced the NFL’s top defense in practice for 2 straight years. How did that help him, exactly?

 

Either Darnold can play or he can’t. All Gregg Williams will be able to do to help Darnold is to get him the ball as much as possible. I.E. three and outs and turnovers.

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I make a great Italian/Jewish chicken soup. Mirepoix plus turnips, parsnips, parsley. Caramelize the vegetables in a little canola and olive oil mix. Into the pot with chicken,  chicken stock, broth, bay leaf, fresh thyme,cloves, garlic. Add can of Delmonte tomato sauce. Bring to quick boil and simmer for 40 mins. Remove chicken. Cook for additional 15 mins. Seeve with al dente acini di pepe and parmesan. Williams. Darnold.

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2 hours ago, Gastineau Lives said:

I make a great Italian/Jewish chicken soup. Mirepoix plus turnips, parsnips, parsley. Caramelize the vegetables in a little canola and olive oil mix. Into the pot with chicken,  chicken stock, broth, bay leaf, fresh thyme,cloves, garlic. Add can of Delmonte tomato sauce. Bring to quick boil and simmer for 40 mins. Remove chicken. Cook for additional 15 mins. Seeve with al dente acini di pepe and parmesan. Williams. Darnold.

Classic Jewish chicken soup does not have tomato sauce in it. Period. That's not to say your soup isn't delicious. 

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45 minutes ago, rldev said:

Classic Jewish chicken soup does not have tomato sauce in it. Period. That's not to say your soup isn't delicious. 

Hence the Italian/ in the very first sentence. Im half Italian half Jew

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20 hours ago, The Crusher said:

Soup is good 

I don't like consommé, though

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Practicing against the Bowles/Rogers juggernaut, Sam undoubtedly thought he could score a TD on every 2 minute drill.  Except, of course, for Bates.

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Gregg Williams be the difference maker why this D will be great and not just good. 

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Gregg Williams be the difference maker why this D will be great and not just good. 


Gregg Williams hasn’t made an average or good defense great since the mid-2000s
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1 minute ago, Jetsfan80 said:

 


Gregg Williams hasn’t made an average or good defense great since the mid-2000s

 

Key pieces are  in place here. 

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Key pieces are  in place here. 


No pass rusher and no corners. No, they’re not.

He couldn’t even get the Rams to play elite defense with Aaron Donald.

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2 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

 


No pass rusher and no corners. No, they’re not.

He couldn’t even get the Rams to play elite defense with Aaron Donald.

 

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Jachai Polite is a pipe dream. Aaron Donald is the most devastating defensive force in the league and a lock future HOFer if he stays healthy.

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2 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

 

 


Jachai Polite is a pipe dream. Aaron Donald is the most devastating defensive force in the league and a lock future HOFer if he stays healthy.

 

 

We shall soon see. 

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22 hours ago, Butterfield said:

He will have that experience for a whole year or two before Williams wears out his welcome.   

Not seeing a history where he wears out his welcome.  Anywhere.  Ever really, why do you and some seem to believe this stuff.  History doesnt say it will

3 years as DC in Tenn, went to the SB and then hired as a HC in Buffalo.  No wearing out a welcome there

2003-2006 in Washington under Gibbs, then signs a 3 year extension to stay in Washington.  Gibbs retires and Williams interviewed four times with Snyder. Snyder goes with Jim Zorn as his HC.

NO, 2007 until 2012, Bounty Gate, ouch 

2014 through 2016 with Rams until Fisher and the entire staff is released

Off to Cleveland 

 

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Not seeing a history where he wears out his welcome.  Anywhere.  Ever really, why do you and some seem to believe this stuff.  History doesnt say it will 3 years as DC in Tenn, went to the SB and then hired as a HC in Buffalo.  No wearing out a welcome there

2003-2006 in Washington under Gibbs, then signs a 3 year extension to stay in Washington.  Gibbs retires and Williams interviewed four times with Snyder. Snyder goes with Jim Zorn as his HC.

NO, 2007 until 2012, Bounty Gate, ouch 

2014 through 2016 with Rams until Fisher and the entire staff is released

Off to Cleveland 

 

 

 

You forgot the Jaguars for just one season (2008).

 

Since getting fired in Buffalo, he’s had 8 different job changes in 15 years.

 

Odds are, regardless of the circumstances, he has a max shelf life of 3 years here.

 

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Just to clarify, it was Clam Chowder.

Grandy out.

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On 7/7/2019 at 2:02 AM, Butterfield said:

He will have that experience for a whole year or two before Williams wears out his welcome.   

He will get a HC opportunity before that happens 

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Greg Williams >>>>> systematic cheating, goat QB, goat HC, and PED cocktails!!!!

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