k-met57 Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 You can bet as much as you make in a year yourself that, if Robby Anderson has a 1200-yard, 7-8 TD season this year his next contract will be for a minimum $15MM/year. If the Jets don't pay it then someone else certainly will. He's not Michael Thomas, but he doesn't have to be Michael Thomas to get that much. If the Saints waited until a year later, when he was (or was about to become) a UFA, Thomas could get more than $20MM/year himself in 2020. This is the lower number resulting from the Saints being proactive, and getting a little discount in exchange for assuming his injury risk a year earlier, instead of just letting him play out his dirt-cheap 4th year and wait until Thomas has far more leverage (in addition to another year of inflation). It's a Jets fan's fantasy that Anderson could be locked up in the $9-12MM/year range after such a 2019 season, on a salary cap limit that'll be about $200MM by then. Never mind other stances that presume our own receivers' abilities exist in a vacuum, that doesn't take into account the below average QB play the Jets have fielded, for most of the past decade (never mind nowhere near Brees-like accuracy and field vision at any time in that span), and many talk as though he's the only WR who's dropped an easy pass or two. This doesn't even account for the Jets-level of offensive coaching - and recently, annual OC turnover - over these years as well. You're starting at the results and rationalizing single causes to things with multiple influences. I'm under no delusion that he's one of the game's best receivers, but even on TV - which offer limited views away from the ball - he's been open plenty of times when the ball was not thrown his way outright because of how far downfield he'd gotten, or was over/under thrown by a number of yards if it was thrown his way. His one 10-game stretch with McCown should have had another 100-200 yards minimum, plus a few more TDs, if he had the requisite arm strength. The very point of drafting a Darnold is the hope he has the ability, and/or can develop the downfield accuracy, to take advantage of such receivers that can take the top off a defense. UFA WRs who sign in the $10MM range give or take are players who've never eclipsed 900 yards (Enunwa, Sterling Sheppard, Crowder, etc.). FFS Marquis Lee got ~$9MM/year after missing the entire season, and being a high target / low catch-rate general disappointment before that. Stefan Diggs was an 800-900 yd/year receiver who was still under team control for cheap (low leverage), when he got his $14-15MM/year contract over a year ago. Tyrell Williams just got $11.5MM/year on the heels of a pair of 650-730 yard seasons. Barring off-field concerns resurfacing, it's a safe bet that if a young, healthy Anderson has a 1200+ yard season right in the year before he earns UFA status, that he'll eclipse those deals. Name another receiver with his skill set (doesn’t run many routes, doesn’t break tackles, not a first down maker, exclusively outside big play receiver) that has gotten “paid”? He is Tedd Ginn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hackenberg - Banned Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 They aren't' paying the jocks that much. The 100 refers to a clue about this season 100. No billionaire is paying a jock 100 million in any way shape or form. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 23 minutes ago, k-met57 said: Name another receiver with his skill set (doesn’t run many routes, doesn’t break tackles, not a first down maker, exclusively outside big play receiver) that has gotten “paid”? He is Tedd Ginn I'm surprised we haven't cut him yet, then. I could turn it around and ask you to name another 1200-yard WR we could lock up as a FA for the low money you're imagining. Not a first down maker, ok. His average reception is 15 yards. He must only catch 15-20 yard passes on 3rd & 25. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 18 hours ago, Philc1 said: It’s a WR league as much as it’s a qb league #weaponz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-met57 Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 1 hour ago, Sperm Edwards said: I'm surprised we haven't cut him yet, then. I could turn it around and ask you to name another 1200-yard WR we could lock up as a FA for the low money you're imagining. Not a first down maker, ok. His average reception is 15 yards. He must only catch 15-20 yard passes on 3rd & 25. what does cut have to do it? no one said he was hot garbage. look up Ted Ginn in 2017 -- 53 catches 787 yards....that's what Anderson is and always will be. you'll get some 3/140 games and then a bunch of 2/22 games. you do not win in the NFL making those guys your primary weapons...you need receivers to move the sticks against good coverage and on third downs. BTW Ginn was the 9th pick, Anderson was undrafted...not a bad thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 40 minutes ago, k-met57 said: what does cut have to do it? no one said he was hot garbage. look up Ted Ginn in 2017 -- 53 catches 787 yards....that's what Anderson is and always will be. you'll get some 3/140 games and then a bunch of 2/22 games. you do not win in the NFL making those guys your primary weapons...you need receivers to move the sticks against good coverage and on third downs. BTW Ginn was the 9th pick, Anderson was undrafted...not a bad thing. IF Anderson has a 1200 yard season this year he will not be Ted Ginn, will he? Ted Ginn is Ted Ginn. Anderson is Anderson. Anderson is not Ginn, who was a career letdown and the only reason he stuck around long enough where experience began to set in was because with his speed he could warrant a roster spot on special teams. He had a 5-year span from age 25 to age 29 where he started a total of 5 games, and they were probably all due to injuries to others. Anderson is a decidedly better receiver than Ginn, particularly at comparable stages of their careers. The only reason his 2017 season didn't finish with between 1000-1100 yards is because Bryce Petty was the QB for his last 3+ games. Whether you personally think he's worth it or not, if Anderson puts up 1200 yards, he will get paid like a low #1 / high #2 as a UFA. The rationale will be he didn't before because of a combination of him being less polished coming into the league, compared to higher draft picks, and not having good/experienced QBs with the arm/accuracy to take advantage of what he brings to the table, combined with substandard offensive coaching with a different OC every year of his young career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 7 hours ago, k-met57 said: no. there is more to receiver then yardage. Thomas make the offense go along with Drew....Robby does not push the offense forward....he is a beneficiary. It’s unfair to compare the two. Thomas is a top 5 receiver Robby is a contributor on what will be a good jet offense this year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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