GREENBEAN Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 Mangold, favre, jones, brick?Sent from my LGUS991 using JetNation.com mobile appMawae, Martin, Pennington? Two of them are in the HOF Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtina Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 6 hours ago, joewilly12 said: 34 One year younger than Mangold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WayneChrebet80 Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 44 minutes ago, greenwave81 said: Harrison can learn a sh*t-load from Kalil...ain't like Harrison has a lot of mentors during his stay with the NYJ. Harrison got a decent contract. He’s getting paid like a low-level starter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batman10023 Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 2 hours ago, flgreen said: I suspect what Douglas was doing was texting Mrs Kalil pictures of $8,000,000 cash. That usually works I would have met her in person 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 16 minutes ago, Peace Frog said: How is it $8 million less to spend next year. There is no cap or dead money ramifications. So unless you are saying because we spent a dollars this year we won’t have that exact dollar to spend next year and $$ are limited, it’s not true. We can spend whatever we want to next year up to the cap. The Johnson’s have never been shy about spending money, they aren’t going to tell Douglas next year his pool of $$ is $8 million less NEXT year because of what he spent this year. They have unlimited funds limited only by the cap (and future considerations). That $8 million would have rolled over to the cap next year and could’ve been used on a longer term contract. But I like the move because I love the idea of trying to win now, every year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 On 8/1/2019 at 9:02 PM, Sperm Edwards said: Not really true. Spending $8MM this year means there’s $8MM less to spend next year. Still a worthwhile pickup. He’s not crazy expensive and it’ll be good to have a reliable center again (assuming he still is). Fair point but haven't the Jets been a perennial UNDER spender and doesn't that factor into the 3-year average used to compute Cap compliance? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 3 hours ago, Jet Nut said: Who they could have had at a lower pick doesnt mean Adams isnt untouchable. Theres absolutely no logic to it. Im sorry fans of the Jets have no clue how valuable Adams is. But he is. And its more than his play. More Jet fantasy cries, he'll command a big contract. Only here do we sweat out what the asking price a couple of years down the road for someone who I'm guessing will be worth it. Its like we wish he wasnt as good as he is so we dont have to pay him. So no, his energy, his play and his popularity say he isnt expendable. That someone in your eyes is replaceable, I'll bet Douglas and Gase thankfully dont agree. And even those that hate the kid for some odd reason, Mahomes, need to remember, he's played all of two seasons. Douglas didnt draft Darnold. I guess hes expendable too? After Darnold was taken Allen was taken after woods. See, he could easily be replaced. Only if the million Mahomes fans who all wanted him with the 6th pick, sure, got their man. then we wouldnt need him either. Don’t compare the QB to a SS. I won’t even entertain a discussion after that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WayneChrebet80 Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 36 minutes ago, kdels62 said: That $8 million would have rolled over to the cap next year and could’ve been used on a longer term contract. But I like the move because I love the idea of trying to win now, every year. Consider it an insurance policy to protect Darnold. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GREENBEAN Posted August 2, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted August 2, 2019 He didnt grade out well last year Obviously the Jets decided that Harrison wasn’t playing to the level they wanted. Bringing Kalil in improves center play as well as backup depth and versatilityQuinnen Williams came in and got 5 sacks in 2 days and 12 eye brows raised in unison. The next call was “did I say $6 mil? I meant $8. Get off the f*ckin couch”. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 5 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 3 hours ago, jetstream23 said: The future is now. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClashFan Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 Nice move! Let's hope RK has something left in the tank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embrace the Suck Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 7 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said: GFY Macc supporters. When did this place become a dnc presidential debate stage? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cant wait Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 wow and mitch morse is already in concussion protocol as of today. good signing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HelenOfTroy Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 3 hours ago, GREENBEAN said: Ya have to wonder just how Douglas pulled this off. Was he calling the guy and pestering him to come out of retirement for the last few weeks or something? lol WTF? How ever it happened it really does say something about Douglas' ability to get things done that no one would think realistic. This is really insane news. Even if its just as insurance behind Harrison it's a great move. GREAT MOVE!!! Kalil said he was a “big” Sam Darnold fan — not surprising considering Kalil himself went to USC. But Darnold’s presence with the Jets is a big reason Kalil believed this opportunity was worth taking. https://theathletic.com/1111418/2019/08/01/breaking-down-what-the-addition-of-ryan-kalil-means-for-the-jets/ 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetscrazey Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 First we have to see if he still has it. If he does, this will be a great signing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelScott Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 10 hours ago, Lith said: Intersting little fact (to me at least) Back in 2007 draft, when we moved up to get Revis, we sent our 2nd to the Panthers; which they used to take Ryan Kalil. Hopefully Kalil's career will end better than Darrelle's did. God damn, way to put his age in perspective lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop24 Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 Good move .. at very least it’s a smart person that teach and help Sam with reading defenses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Maxman Posted August 2, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted August 2, 2019 Center was the scariest weakness on the team before this move. CB is scary but you can scheme your way around Daryl Roberts. If Sam Darnold gets hurt because they didn't address the offensive line, you can scheme your way to the unemployment line. 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 10 minutes ago, Maxman said: Center was the scariest weakness on the team before this move. CB is scary but you can scheme your way around Daryl Roberts. If Sam Darnold gets hurt because they didn't address the offensive line, you can scheme your way to the unemployment line. Joe Douglas starting to moves out of nowhere. The question is could you have seen Mike McCoffee pull this off? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jetstream23 Posted August 2, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted August 2, 2019 I’m a little older and somewhat injury-prone myself. Anybody wanna pay me $8M to work for about 6 or 7 months? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genot Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 46 minutes ago, BurnleyJet said: Joe Douglas starting to moves out of nowhere. The question is could you have seen Mike McCoffee pull this off? Why not?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 I'll allow it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 9 hours ago, Jetsfan4life90 said: Has nothing to do with it. I swear, only some Jet fans would crap on a great player. Like, literally... ie- he doesnt make clutch plays. jumps around when he makes a tfl when we are down 14 vs pats. woo!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 10 hours ago, Rsherman28 said: . I wouldn’t even be shocked if Tom Compton beats out Winters and we cut him for a cap saving of 6.5 million. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsMetsDevilsPA Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 16 hours ago, Stark said: Me... Looking at Calendar... it's not April 1st..... so not April Fools... Me... looking at the tweets and still thinking someone is F*çking with me Will be interesting if he's still got it. If the neck and shoulder are healed then this could be very good. He played 16 games last season. I think he is good on the injury front. The question is at 34 what is he going to give you? I think he will be fine for the next two years but only time will tell..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 8 hours ago, Lupz27 said: Don’t compare the QB to a SS. I won’t even entertain a discussion after that. Of course not, don't even know why SS are on the team. They're unecissary and can be found anywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNuuFaaolaExperience Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 You know how getting a puppy for an older dog makes them feel young again? Same thing here. Darnold is the puppy. Kalil is going to have a throwback year. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rsherman28 Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 5 hours ago, Maxman said: Center was the scariest weakness on the team before this move. CB is scary but you can scheme your way around Daryl Roberts. If Sam Darnold gets hurt because they didn't address the offensive line, you can scheme your way to the unemployment line. Could you imagine if we go and get Trent Williams all in one weekend ?!? The left side of the line ?. Williams, KO, Kalil 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bla bla bla Posted August 2, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted August 2, 2019 My quick breakdown of the signing! 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets723 Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 6 hours ago, Maxman said: Center was the scariest weakness on the team before this move. CB is scary but you can scheme your way around Daryl Roberts. If Sam Darnold gets hurt because they didn't address the offensive line, you can scheme your way to the unemployment line. Agreed its a absolute miracle Sam didnt get killed last season between Long snapping the ball almost over his head constantly and running for his life on most plays. It really shows how talented and Versatile Sam is. Adding Osemele and Kalil provides veteran leadership and upgrades. Harrison becomes good depth just in case and maybe can learn more from Kalil. I expect douglas to focus more on the oline next offseason given his backround and the importance of keeping Sam as safe as possible 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 Could you imagine if we go and get Trent Williams all in one weekend ?!? The left side of the line . Williams, KO, KalilYup. And RT, likely, by default will be upgraded. As Beachum would likely move to RT. OL would go from the biggest concern on offense to a strength. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app24:25:31 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KRL Posted August 2, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted August 2, 2019 A couple of things: - We'll find out quick if Kalil really still wants to play because he's going to be practicing against L. Williams, Q. Williams, Anderson and McLendon on a daily basis. In addition he's going to have to deal with the crazy schemes G. Williams is going to throw at him - Douglas just made the OLine extremely deep if Kalil still has the desire to play. Because Harrison moves to a backup/depth role with Compton and Edoga - CAR usually was a top rushing offense so Bell should really thrive. In the last 5 years CAR was never lower than #10 in rushing: http://www.espn.com/nfl/statistics/team/_/stat/rushing 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREENBEAN Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 9 hours ago, HelenOfTroy said: Kalil said he was a “big” Sam Darnold fan — not surprising considering Kalil himself went to USC. But Darnold’s presence with the Jets is a big reason Kalil believed this opportunity was worth taking. https://theathletic.com/1111418/2019/08/01/breaking-down-what-the-addition-of-ryan-kalil-means-for-the-jets/ I bet that has a lot to do with it actually. We are only scratching the surface of the Darnold effect. If he has the season we are all hoping for we will attract the upper tier of offensive FA's in the future. Gone will be the days of consistently being used to get other teams to pay more for the players we want. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jetster Posted August 2, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted August 2, 2019 Looks like Gase & Douglas agree with Jetster in their optimism over the potential of this team. Gase faced Bowles numerous times & beat him with backup QBs. You don't EVER go into an NFL season with a young stud QB & a top 3 RB like Bell & look ahead to 2020. Like Gase said, the only thing that matters is WINS. Someone else pointed this out & it could be true, maybe Harrisons new physique & strength might work better at Guard & Brian Winters finally gets some needed competition. I've never been a huge Winters fan & felt he was overpaid solely because he was the best of a horrible group of offensive guards. Forget about what Kalil can teach Harrison who now becomes a versatile backup at Center, maybe starter at Guard but just imagine what a 5 timepro Bowl center can teach our young studly Quinnen Williams about beating center/guard combos & leverage, tricks to decifering tip offs of run/pass ect. Now Quinnen gets to practice against a pros pro, who knows every trick in the book. Sidenote; I don't think Douglas is done & id be SHOCKED if he hasn't made overtures to the Redskins about Trent Williams. Douglas has seen how Wentz, Dak & Goff have flourished behind veteran olines. What interests me is this, Blake Cashman has been taking starting reps from Avery Williamson. The Redskins cut their middle LB, Trent Williams is playing HARDBALL and wants nothing to do with the Skins. The Skins are going NOWHERE this year & have to be thinking about their future. If Joe Douglas somehow trades for Trent Williams, sending Williamson & a pick to Washington, the Jets would have incredible depth in the Oline position. Just imagine you'd have Harrison as a backup Center/Guard, Beachum as either starting RT, or backup swing Tackle. If someone beats out Winters, you'd have Brian as a backup Guard. Now look at the defensive fronts & LBs in the AFC East. The Bills are OK but Sam took them out last year IN BUFFALO in THE COLD. Pats lost Flowers & will be relying on youngsters, the Fins no longer have Suh in the middle or Wake? (Old). Jets could have the BEST OFFENSE in the AFC East including the Patriots. Edelman is 34 years old. If he goes down & Gronk stays in retirement our average CBs SHOULD be able to keep Brady in the 20s. Let's be in the 30s. No more throw away seasons with Sam Darnold here for the Jets! 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREENBEAN Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 23 minutes ago, Jets723 said: Agreed its a absolute miracle Sam didnt get killed last season between Long snapping the ball almost over his head constantly and running for his life on most plays. It really shows how talented and Versatile Sam is. Adding Osemele and Kalil provides veteran leadership and upgrades. Harrison becomes good depth just in case and maybe can learn more from Kalil. I expect douglas to focus more on the oline next offseason given his backround and the importance of keeping Sam as safe as possible Right. I honestly think we are about to enter the days of the Jets being known for their offensive line. Big athletic bruisers with an attitude are on their way. This signing is a fantastic bridge to help protect Sam in the mean time. Go get them beefcakes JD!!!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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