Philc1 13,046 #176 Posted August 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, Lith said: From Saturday. So is Edoga also a bust? 2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lith 17,027 #177 Posted August 5, 2019 1 minute ago, Philc1 said: So is Edoga also a bust? Idea for a new thread??? 2 2 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoJoTownsell1 10,951 #178 Posted August 5, 2019 9 minutes ago, EM31 said: I will be very happy if Polite turns out to be a good pick (or even solid pick for that matter). Certainly there may be medical/fitness reasons which would explain a slow start. But with that said.... Pass rushers who are eventually going to make a big impression in this league are very often making those impressions/ making an impact from day one of training camp... Like... Well like John Abraham or like Quinnen Williams for example. On the other hand I have frequently seen this pattern: "it's way too early to talk about this (Kick, ban, ridicule)", "it's way too early", "It's too early", "it's still to early...", "haven't we discussed this to death already?" The Boar Hunter Hackenberg Geno Smith (Amongst many, many, many others) So yes it is probably too early to cut him and eviscerate Macc some more, but no, it is not too early to take notice of a slow start. You realize he had 3 sacks today? Is that considered a slow start? Either way, I really appreciate you holding off on signing the petition to cut a rookie before his first pre-season game. 1 1 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scoop24 4,585 #179 Posted August 5, 2019 1 hour ago, 14 in Green said: I’ll be the last guy to make a Polite is a bust comment. If you look in the Draft day thread, I was calling for the Jets to take him, and actually predicted the spot where we would take him (3rd round pick) during the second round. I still think he’s going to be a good player for us, but I have to be honest. I don’t like that he’s been playing with, and making these “sacks” against 2nd and 3rd string players. In fact I’ve noticed from the tweets from camp almost every play he’s made has come when lined up against Eric Smith. Bro he has to perform wherever he gets the reps . About a week ago he wasnt even getting 2nd team reps . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JiF 149,082 #180 Posted August 5, 2019 11 minutes ago, EM31 said: I will be very happy if Polite turns out to be a good pick (or even solid pick for that matter). Certainly there may be medical/fitness reasons which would explain a slow start. But with that said.... Pass rushers who are eventually going to make a big impression in this league are very often making those impressions/ making an impact from day one of training camp... Like... Well like John Abraham or like Quinnen Williams for example. On the other hand I have frequently seen this pattern: "it's way too early to talk about this (Kick, ban, ridicule)", "it's way too early", "It's too early", "it's still to early...", "haven't we discussed this to death already?" The Boar Hunter Hackenberg Geno Smith (Amongst many, many, many others) So yes it is probably too early to cut him and eviscerate Macc some more, but no, it is not too early to take notice of a slow start. Not really, Pass rushers typically are slow to transition. Abraham himself played 6 games his rookie season. Didnt start a single game. Had 4 sacks. 14 tackles. And there are probably 10x more examples of that than there is a guy coming into the league on fire. 3 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
#27TheDominator 210,900 #181 Posted August 5, 2019 On 8/2/2019 at 11:25 PM, T0mShane said: --One year of college production --Played at a reported, undersized 230 pounds --Showed up to the Combine fat --Made excuses for said fat --Blamed mysterious, unnamed advisor for fat --Runs a 4.84/40 at Combine --Jumps a Bill Wennington-esque 31" at the Combine --His position coach implied he was an unserious douche --Showed up to his Pro Day--a full month later--even fatter --Ran a glacial 5.01/40 at Pro Day --Blames poor 40 on mysterious hamstring injury incurred, allegedly, five weeks earlier --Despite league-wide bloodlust need for pass rushers, drops to the bottom of the third round --Goes through two full weeks of camp entirely incapable of rushing the passer, even in drills, despite going against second- and third-team tackles. --Gets passed over in camp for reps by superstuds Frank Luvu and Harvey Langi Other than some YouTube highlights, what's the positive case for Polite? That he was drafted by Mike Maccagnan (who also drafted similarly unathletic pass rushers Dylan Donahue and Lorenzo Mauldin)? This is ******* typical @T0mShane bullsh*t. Polite didn't drop to the bottom of the third round. They took him with the ******* 4th pick in the round! 2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scoop24 4,585 #182 Posted August 5, 2019 6 minutes ago, Philc1 said: So is Edoga also a bust? Lol I mean I heard he actually played well filling in for Beachum. He Got few pancakes throughout camp 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flgreen 28,510 #183 Posted August 5, 2019 10 minutes ago, Lith said: From Saturday. LOL Just going to post that. Good job. it won't matter though how many sacks he gets, or who he beats, certain people have tagged him a bust, a bust he'll remain. 2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jet Nut 15,662 #184 Posted August 5, 2019 9 minutes ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: You realize he had 3 sacks today? Is that considered a slow start? Either way, I really appreciate you holding off on signing the petition to cut a rookie before his first pre-season game. Or that naming 4 whole draft picks that never developed I've the past 15 years is comical at best? Apparently trying to make a point about draft picks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BettyBoop 2,597 #185 Posted August 5, 2019 This is the wackiest thread I have ever seen. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flgreen 28,510 #186 Posted August 5, 2019 On 8/3/2019 at 8:46 AM, nycdan said: Sometimes the Internet gifts you with so much more than the answer you were looking for. https://www.patriots.com/news/winovich-making-the-most-out-of-each-day Thank you, Internet! You rock! BUST Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BUM-KNEE 14,994 #187 Posted August 5, 2019 5 minutes ago, BettyBoop said: This is the wackiest thread I have ever seen. Oh you ain't seen nothing yet 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
14 in Green 6,677 #188 Posted August 5, 2019 42 minutes ago, JiF said: It's the 3rd week of his professional career. I believe he's just now getting down to the weight he wanted to be at. He probably just figured out where the cafeteria is. Polite might end up being a bust but acting like we can make that determination right now is simply ridiculous, no offense. No, I understand where you’re coming from here, and I’m not concerned that the kid will bust, I think he’ll be fine. Unfortunately we are in dire need of this kid’s talents right now. I probably didn’t explain it well, but my concern is more with the position he plays. We are so bad there, we need this kid to show out. That’s not fair to him, I know, but he is going to be in the spot light because of where this team is talent wise on the edge. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
32EBoozer 5,753 #189 Posted August 5, 2019 1 hour ago, 14 in Green said: I’ll be the last guy to make a Polite is a bust comment. If you look in the Draft day thread, I was calling for the Jets to take him, and actually predicted the spot where we would take him (3rd round pick) during the second round. I still think he’s going to be a good player for us, but I have to be honest. I don’t like that he’s been playing with, and making these “sacks” against 2nd and 3rd string players. In fact I’ve noticed from the tweets from camp almost every play he’s made has come when lined up against Eric Smith. 1st you build up their confidence then you let them take on the #1 OL. Some guys rise to a challenge (Darnold), others need to be brought along slowly. Let's hope by the end of camp Polite can be a positive situational pass rusher for us. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roscoeword 552 #190 Posted August 5, 2019 It's funny that when comparing his progress to past pass rushers, we still use the example of John Abraham. The guy played for us like 20 years ago. Are there really so few? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jetstream23 29,487 #191 Posted August 5, 2019 2 hours ago. 1 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
#27TheDominator 210,900 #192 Posted August 5, 2019 12 minutes ago, roscoeword said: It's funny that when comparing his progress to past pass rushers, we still use the example of John Abraham. The guy played for us like 20 years ago. Are there really so few? You'd prefer that we compared him to Dorian Boose? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
#27TheDominator 210,900 #193 Posted August 5, 2019 18 hours ago, Matt39 said: https://www.espn.com/blog/new-york-jets/post/_/id/80488/new-coaches-new-mindset-for-new-york-jets-all-gas-no-brakes 5. Early training-camp awards: Mike Maccagnan draft pick who should be worried about his roster spot -- RB Trenton Cannon Possible surprise cut -- RB Bilal Powell Obviously Cimini missed on Jeremy Clark Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BROOKLYN JET 6,848 #194 Posted August 5, 2019 14 minutes ago, jetstream23 said: 2 hours ago. Luck is not really hurt, he is afraid of Jachai Polite's hamstrings! 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
varjet 3,778 #196 Posted August 5, 2019 The question is whether Polite can beat Beachum, Shell or whomever else on the roster could start at T. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T0mShane 137,322 #197 Posted August 5, 2019 1 hour ago, JiF said: How many guys were drafted out of your alma mater this year? I went to a university for learned doctors. We didn’t compete for Heismans, we competed for Nobels. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JiF 149,082 #198 Posted August 5, 2019 10 minutes ago, T0mShane said: I went to a university for learned doctors. We didn’t compete for Heismans, we competed for Nobels. Talk to me when you university creates the worlds great sports drink. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jetsfan80 119,516 #199 Posted August 5, 2019 3 minutes ago, JiF said: Talk to me when you university creates the worlds great sports drink. Coca-Cola is responsible for Powerade, JiF. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
#27TheDominator 210,900 #200 Posted August 5, 2019 20 minutes ago, T0mShane said: I went to a university for learned doctors. We didn’t compete for Heismans, we competed for Nobels. More like Knoebels. 3 minutes ago, JiF said: Talk to me when you university creates the worlds great sports drink. So, you aren't going to talk to Shane unless someone from SUNY Purchase invented Propel? 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JiF 149,082 #201 Posted August 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Coca-Cola is responsible for Powerade, JiF. gross Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Long Island Leprechaun 2,416 #202 Posted August 5, 2019 1 hour ago, JiF said: Not really, Pass rushers typically are slow to transition. Abraham himself played 6 games his rookie season. Didnt start a single game. Had 4 sacks. 14 tackles. And there are probably 10x more examples of that than there is a guy coming into the league on fire. Abraham was obviously a bust. Because these guys know what they're talking about.... ur, well. Not. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JiF 149,082 #203 Posted August 5, 2019 1 minute ago, #27TheDominator said: More like Knoebels. So, you aren't going to talk to Shane unless someone from SUNY Purchase invented Propel? Propel is Gatorade. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patriot Killa 22,088 #204 Posted August 5, 2019 1 hour ago, BettyBoop said: This is the wackiest thread I have ever seen. I’m trying man, I’m really trying. you guys are tough to convince though so here’s my last bullet in the chamber.... we don’t know sh*t yet. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
#27TheDominator 210,900 #205 Posted August 5, 2019 5 minutes ago, JiF said: Propel is Gatorade. That's okay. I can't remember if it was SUNY Purchase or SUNY New Paltz. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Philc1 13,046 #206 Posted August 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Lith said: Idea for a new thread??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Philc1 13,046 #207 Posted August 5, 2019 46 minutes ago, k-met57 said: Maybe Mac finally got a third round pick right? 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
docdhc 4,075 #208 Posted August 5, 2019 2 hours ago, EM31 said: I will be very happy if Polite turns out to be a good pick (or even solid pick for that matter). Certainly there may be medical/fitness reasons which would explain a slow start. But with that said.... Pass rushers who are eventually going to make a big impression in this league are very often making those impressions/ making an impact from day one of training camp... Like... Well like John Abraham or like Quinnen Williams for example. On the other hand I have frequently seen this pattern: "it's way too early to talk about this (Kick, ban, ridicule)", "it's way too early", "It's too early", "it's still to early...", "haven't we discussed this to death already?" The Boar Hunter Hackenberg Geno Smith (Amongst many, many, many others) So yes it is probably too early to cut him and eviscerate Macc some more, but no, it is not too early to take notice of a slow start. Even for those guys we at least waited for the preseason games! 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ljr 2,774 #209 Posted August 5, 2019 This is the wackiest thread I have ever seen.Not even top 500(It is wacky tho)Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slats 108,971 #210 Posted August 5, 2019 2 hours ago, JiF said: It's the 3rd week of his professional career. I believe he's just now getting down to the weight he wanted to be at. He probably just figured out where the cafeteria is. Polite might end up being a bust but acting like we can make that determination right now is simply ridiculous, no offense. This. Transitioning to the NFL isn't easy, and Polite's absolutely disastrous combine might suggest that it will be a little more of an uphill battle for him. I'm encouraged that he's gone from what looked like the doghouse to making plays with the second team. Not a bad amount of progress for the kid. He needs to spend the year eating right and working with the strength coaches. If he makes some situational plays this year, I'll be pleased. Like to see him competing for a starting job next year. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites