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3 minutes ago, bealeb319 said:

What does jalen Ramsey have in common with Antonio Brown?

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Both want to play for the Las Vegas Raiders.  Jalen Ramsey only wants to play for a team that has no state income tax. ( Raiders ,and  Titans)     The Jets play in a state with high  tax  rate - forget about it.

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On 8/11/2019 at 4:00 PM, SR24 said:

Would rather send Shepard and picks. At this point the way the season is looking we’re going to have to move draft Capital now to bring in viable corners

Do you think any of the other 31 NFL GM's have even remote interest in Nathan Shepherd?  He turns 26 in October and my guess is he had a 5th round grade (at best) from most GM's entering the '18 draft.  

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18 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

Do you think any of the other 31 NFL GM's have even remote interest in Nathan Shepherd?  He turns 26 in October and my guess is he had a 5th round grade (at best) from most GM's entering the '18 draft.  

If he looks decent someone could pay a 4 for 2 years of a grunt under a rookie contract.  

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9 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said:

Do you think any of the other 31 NFL GM's have even remote interest in Nathan Shepherd?  He turns 26 in October and my guess is he had a 5th round grade (at best) from most GM's entering the '18 draft.  

They’re incredibly weak at DL and Peterson’s suspended 6 games wtf are we gonna send a 3rd? Send a valuable pick for a guy who's on the back end of his career and won't be here to help us through our toughest stretch of games when we play NE, Philly, Cleveland and Dallas?!!  

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How can Jets solve cornerback crisis? 6 potential fixes for roster’s biggest weakness

Updated 7:02 AM; Today 6:50 AM
Joe Namath isn’t sold on Jets’ roster
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By Matt Stypulkoski | NJ Advance Media for NJ.com

There’s no question about it: Cornerback is the weakest link on the Jets’ roster right now.

That was probably the case at the start of training camp, when everyone was fully healthy. But now that Trumaine Johnson and his replacement, Kyron Brown, are both injured, the team’s cornerback corps is in a full-blown crisis.

 

Frankly, the Jets lack both top-end talent and quality depth at the position. Johnson is far and away their best corner. Darryl Roberts, who is playing across the field, is a major question mark as a first-time starter. And Brian Poole, the top slot corner, isn’t a surefire success, either. Then comes the backups, who have just a few hundred snaps of NFL experience – combined.

So, clearly, general manager Joe Douglas has to figure out a way to add talent and fix this part of the roster in order for the 2019 Jets to really have a chance to thrive.

Here are six possible ways that Douglas could upgrade at cornerback – via trades, free-agent signings, waiver-wire additions and more:

Trade for Cardinals’ Patrick Peterson

OK, sure, this may sound strange at first, considering Peterson has rescinded his offseason trade request and is suspended for the first six games of the year. But getting 10 games out of an elite cornerback is still better than none. Plus, Peterson’s contract runs through 2020, so this move would help the Jets for next season, too. So, if anything, the suspension would just help tamp down what would normally be an extremely high trade cost. The risk is that Peterson just turned 29, so the Jets would be getting a player past his prime. Plus, even with the six-game suspension, Douglas would likely have to give up a pretty decent haul to secure his services. It’d be a high-risk, but potentially high-reward, move for the Jets.

 

Trade for Eagles’ Rasul Douglas

The Eagles are absolutely loaded at cornerback, when healthy. That depth of talent means that Douglas is unlikely to have a big role on this team – despite being a 23-year-old former third-round pick with 30 games of experience over the past two seasons. All of those things add up to making him the perfect trade chip for the Eagles. From the Jets’ perspective, he’s a great fit because he’s young, but knows what he’s doing and is capable of being a starter. Plus, Joe Douglas is familiar with him from his time in Philadelphia; in fact, he played a key role in the team selecting him back in 2017. Again, this comes with a cost, because it’s a trade. But the Jets would also be getting a known quantity, instead of rolling the dice on some of the free agents who are still available for a reason.

Sign Marcus Cooper

The Lions just released Cooper on Monday in order to make room for a younger cornerback. The 29-year-old joined Detroit last season and played four games there, after appearing in two for the Bears. Frankly, Cooper wouldn’t be helpful in the starting lineup. But he’d at least provide experienced depth, which is something the Jets do not have at all right now. Cooper has 74 NFL games and 28 starts under his belt, which is far and away more than all of the Jets’ current backup CBs put together. For that reason alone, he could be a useful addition to the room.

Sign David Amerson

Amerson was a surprise cut at the end of OTAs. The Cardinals decided to let him go because they felt their other options were good enough to fill in for Peterson. But entering the spring, the expectation was that Amerson would help fill that void. So, the 27-year-old can’t be all that bad. He played six games and started five last season, after playing and starting six in 2017 for the Raiders, too. In 2016, he was a mainstay in the Oakland lineup, starting 15 games. He’s played 74 games and started 61. In other words, he could probably provide some competition for Roberts in that second cornerback spot. Or, at the very least, he could serve as a useful backup, in case injury strikes this unit again come the regular season.

Wait for Browns/Eagles/Bengals competitions to wrap up

We already mentioned that the Eagles are deep at corner. The Browns and Bengals both seem to be in the same boat. So, odds are that some, if not all, of those teams will make some cuts at cornerback once training camp wraps up. If Joe Douglas stays patient, he may be able to scoop up some of the leftover talent off waivers or the free-agent market. This strategy comes with some risks, though; there’s a chance that other teams could beat the Jets to the punch, either with a better waiver priority or more lucrative contract offer. Plus, the talent available could be more back-end worth, as opposed to some of the names on this list so far, who could either serve as starters or decent backups.

 
\Move Jamal Adams

Adams said Monday that he’s confident in the Jets’ current cornerbacks to get the job done. But He also said that he’d happily move to cornerback, if asked.

To be clear, we don’t expect the Jets to slide their Pro Bowl safety into a different role anytime soon; his ability to get in the box and make plays in the backfield is too valuable to sacrifice, at least for right now. But, Adams has proven to be a very good coverage safety, so it isn’t the craziest idea, if the Jets can’t find the proper outside talent to get the job done. The biggest issue with this plan? Having to insert Rontez Miles back into the starting lineup alongside Marcus Maye. This unconventional move would work a lot better if the Jets were deeper at safety.

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21 minutes ago, joewilly12 said:

How can Jets solve cornerback crisis? 6 potential fixes for roster’s biggest weakness

Updated 7:02 AM; Today 6:50 AM

Joe Namath isn’t sold on Jets’ roster

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By Matt Stypulkoski | NJ Advance Media for NJ.com

There’s no question about it: Cornerback is the weakest link on the Jets’ roster right now.

That was probably the case at the start of training camp, when everyone was fully healthy. But now that Trumaine Johnson and his replacement, Kyron Brown, are both injured, the team’s cornerback corps is in a full-blown crisis.

 

Frankly, the Jets lack both top-end talent and quality depth at the position. Johnson is far and away their best corner. Darryl Roberts, who is playing across the field, is a major question mark as a first-time starter. And Brian Poole, the top slot corner, isn’t a surefire success, either. Then comes the backups, who have just a few hundred snaps of NFL experience – combined.

So, clearly, general manager Joe Douglas has to figure out a way to add talent and fix this part of the roster in order for the 2019 Jets to really have a chance to thrive.

Here are six possible ways that Douglas could upgrade at cornerback – via trades, free-agent signings, waiver-wire additions and more:

Trade for Cardinals’ Patrick Peterson

OK, sure, this may sound strange at first, considering Peterson has rescinded his offseason trade request and is suspended for the first six games of the year. But getting 10 games out of an elite cornerback is still better than none. Plus, Peterson’s contract runs through 2020, so this move would help the Jets for next season, too. So, if anything, the suspension would just help tamp down what would normally be an extremely high trade cost. The risk is that Peterson just turned 29, so the Jets would be getting a player past his prime. Plus, even with the six-game suspension, Douglas would likely have to give up a pretty decent haul to secure his services. It’d be a high-risk, but potentially high-reward, move for the Jets.

 

Trade for Eagles’ Rasul Douglas

The Eagles are absolutely loaded at cornerback, when healthy. That depth of talent means that Douglas is unlikely to have a big role on this team – despite being a 23-year-old former third-round pick with 30 games of experience over the past two seasons. All of those things add up to making him the perfect trade chip for the Eagles. From the Jets’ perspective, he’s a great fit because he’s young, but knows what he’s doing and is capable of being a starter. Plus, Joe Douglas is familiar with him from his time in Philadelphia; in fact, he played a key role in the team selecting him back in 2017. Again, this comes with a cost, because it’s a trade. But the Jets would also be getting a known quantity, instead of rolling the dice on some of the free agents who are still available for a reason.

Sign Marcus Cooper

The Lions just released Cooper on Monday in order to make room for a younger cornerback. The 29-year-old joined Detroit last season and played four games there, after appearing in two for the Bears. Frankly, Cooper wouldn’t be helpful in the starting lineup. But he’d at least provide experienced depth, which is something the Jets do not have at all right now. Cooper has 74 NFL games and 28 starts under his belt, which is far and away more than all of the Jets’ current backup CBs put together. For that reason alone, he could be a useful addition to the room.

Sign David Amerson

Amerson was a surprise cut at the end of OTAs. The Cardinals decided to let him go because they felt their other options were good enough to fill in for Peterson. But entering the spring, the expectation was that Amerson would help fill that void. So, the 27-year-old can’t be all that bad. He played six games and started five last season, after playing and starting six in 2017 for the Raiders, too. In 2016, he was a mainstay in the Oakland lineup, starting 15 games. He’s played 74 games and started 61. In other words, he could probably provide some competition for Roberts in that second cornerback spot. Or, at the very least, he could serve as a useful backup, in case injury strikes this unit again come the regular season.

Wait for Browns/Eagles/Bengals competitions to wrap up

We already mentioned that the Eagles are deep at corner. The Browns and Bengals both seem to be in the same boat. So, odds are that some, if not all, of those teams will make some cuts at cornerback once training camp wraps up. If Joe Douglas stays patient, he may be able to scoop up some of the leftover talent off waivers or the free-agent market. This strategy comes with some risks, though; there’s a chance that other teams could beat the Jets to the punch, either with a better waiver priority or more lucrative contract offer. Plus, the talent available could be more back-end worth, as opposed to some of the names on this list so far, who could either serve as starters or decent backups.

 
\Move Jamal Adams

Adams said Monday that he’s confident in the Jets’ current cornerbacks to get the job done. But He also said that he’d happily move to cornerback, if asked.

To be clear, we don’t expect the Jets to slide their Pro Bowl safety into a different role anytime soon; his ability to get in the box and make plays in the backfield is too valuable to sacrifice, at least for right now. But, Adams has proven to be a very good coverage safety, so it isn’t the craziest idea, if the Jets can’t find the proper outside talent to get the job done. The biggest issue with this plan? Having to insert Rontez Miles back into the starting lineup alongside Marcus Maye. This unconventional move would work a lot better if the Jets were deeper at safety.

  • I was lobbying for Peterson before someone in another thread pointed out the suspension. To brutal of a first 6 games and age make me want to pass on this deal. If we were one piece away like some of these contending team, it might be worth it. 
  • Love the Rasul Douglas trade, 2020 4th rounder gets it done? Or do we have to potentially move a 3rd?
  • Any other year other than 2014 I would say to stay away from David Amerson knowing what he is, this year, bring him int to compete, why not?
  • Waiting and being patient probably the smart move, its New York though, Tru goes down Monday and we expect someone in here by Monday night 😂
  • Please don't **** with Jamal lol 
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4 hours ago, SR24 said:

They’re incredibly weak at DL and Peterson’s suspended 6 games wtf are we gonna send a 3rd? Send a valuable pick for a guy who's on the back end of his career and won't be here to help us through our toughest stretch of games when we play NE, Philly, Cleveland and Dallas?!!  

Of course we're not.  But people are acting like the Cardinals would be happy to receive one of of our backup DT's in a trade for something we need.  Nathan Shepherd has slightly above zero value on the open market.  

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Routes Jets GM Joe Douglas could take to add much-needed CB help

With Trumaine Johnson injured, the Jets are exploring all options

By Ralph Vacchiano | 1:20PM

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FLORHAM PARK, N.J. -- The Jets knew the cornerback position was their biggest flaw, even before Trumaine Johnson injured his hamstring at practice on Sunday. They were shorthanded from the start at one of the most important positions in football.

Now, with Johnson out for the foreseeable future -- "I don't think it's going to be months," Adam Gasesaid, "but I mean, we'll see." -- the situation is dire.

Really dire.

"If they need me to go to corner, I'll go to corner," safety Jamal Adams said. "Dead serious."

Seriously, they need some help.

Of course they're not going to move their Pro Bowl safety to corner any time soon, especially since they're not exactly deep at safety either, which means GM Joe Douglas needs to work some magic and find some help at his most precarious position. The Jets do have Darryl Roberts and they brought in free agent slot man Brian Poole, and that's not a bad place to start.

After that they have … well, not much. Undrafted rookie Kyron Brown, second-year pro Parry Nickerson, and third-year pro Arthur Maulet are next up on the depth chart, and if they're pressed into heavy duty during the season they will make inviting targets for the quarterbacks of the AFC East. Even Roberts and Poole aren't exactly lock-down corners, which is a problem in today's pass-happy NFL.

Really, it says a lot that the Jets were counting so heavily on Johnson, who at the end of last season was largely considered a $72.5 million free-agent bust. So yeah, the Jets have a big problem.

"I guess I don't look at it like that," Gase said. "I look at it as: Trumaine is down right now. This is a great opportunity for a lot of guys. Like somebody has a chance to step up and make a name for themselves. I mean it's a great opportunity. When you're a next-man-up mentality, you're not going to sit there and worry about, 'Hey what should we do?'"

But, Gase said, "That's what personnel guys get paid for," which is where Douglas will come in.

Unfortunately for the rookie GM, there aren't a lot of options. There has been a lot of speculation about possible trades with the Eagles and Ravens, two of his old teams, but it's not like either one of them are eager to cough up a starting cornerback before the summer is over. The Eagles, while deep, are dealing with injuries at that position as it is. And both teams know that cornerbacks are a premium position. Teams that have them aren't usually willing to give them up.

And the free-agent market isn't going to offer any more help either. The best player and biggest name available was ex-Jet Mo Claiborne, who many assumed would eventually re-sign with the Jets. But that was before the world learned of his four-game suspension for violating the NFL's substance abuse policy and before he signed a one-year deal with the Chiefs.

So what options do the Jets and Douglas have? Not many. But here's a quick look at who's still available and what else Douglas can do:

- Free agent Sam Shields - Shields returned to the NFL last season after missing nearly two full seasons due to concussions. He played mostly special teams for the Rams last season. His health makes him a risk, but he shouldn't cost much. Still only 31.

- Free agent Brent Grimes - He's 36, has battled shoulder injuries, and carries a lot of baggage. He complained he was underpaid at $7 million last season and ripped into the Bucs on his outspoken wife's podcast.

- Free agent Shareece Wright - The 32-year-old journeyman has been with six teams in eight years. The Jets are probably better off giving their young players a shot, but if they don't work out he'd be decent depth.

- Free agent Davon House - Missed most of last season with a shoulder injury. A decent depth player who is still only 30 years old.

- Trade for Eagles CB Jalen Mills - The Eagles are overflowing with young and starting-caliber cornerbacks, and obviously Douglas -- the former Philly VP of player personnel -- knows it. Their depth took a hit with a foot injury to Cre'Von LeBlanc that could keep him out another month or so, but they replaced him with veteran free agent Orlando Scandrick. There was talk around the draft that the Eagles were shopping the 25-year-old Mills, who hasn't practiced this summer as he recovers from foot surgery. If he's healthy and really available he seems like a good option. Douglas should have the inside scoop on that.

- Scour the waiver wire - You never know who will be on the waiver wire after teams start paring down their roster on Aug. 31. Just keep in mind that there's usually a reason those players are being cut. There likely won't be any starting-caliber corners anyway. But keep an eye on the Eagles again, since they can't keep all their corners. If there are any ones about to get dumped that Douglas likes, he'll surely pre-emptively offer a conditional seventh-round pick.

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