Popular Post Barry McCockinner Posted August 11, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted August 11, 2019 12 minutes ago, kdels62 said: I’m concerned that our UDFA receiver is beating our starting nickel CB. But I’m also on the Dortch hype train. Off the top of your head, who is the best nickel back in the NFL? It's a very difficult position to play. You don't have the sideline to work with and you can barely touch WR's anymore. Every nickel back gets beat at a higher rate than outside CB's do. They're always hated by the fans. It's just a tough spot. The league wants offense to win. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 5 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: Off the top of your head, who is the best nickel back in the NFL? It's a very difficult position to play. You don't have the sideline to work with and you can barely touch WR's anymore. Every nickel back gets beat at a higher rate than outside CB's do. They're always hated by the fans. It's just a tough spot. The league wants offense to win. Where is ray mickens when you need him? 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JetsRay Posted August 11, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted August 11, 2019 20 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: Off the top of your head, who is the best nickel back in the NFL? It's a very difficult position to play. You don't have the sideline to work with and you can barely touch WR's anymore. Every nickel back gets beat at a higher rate than outside CB's do. They're always hated by the fans. It's just a tough spot. The league wants offense to win. Worse than that is the perpetual play by play scrutiny of a training camp practice. If Leo doesn't get a sack on every play, or break up every play he's on the field for, trade him. If Poole doesn't come up with a pass block or an INT on every play, our slot corner sucks. It's camp, the offensive player wins sometimes, the defensive player wins sometimes. Players in this league our fans would trade the farm for are getting beat or losing their battle sometimes every day in practice, if they actually read other team camp reports. Fans have tunnel vision on this stuff, so annoying. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 Just now, Joe W. Namath said: Where is ray mickens when you need him? Big play Ray played when you could still touch the WR's. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 1 minute ago, JetsRay said: Worse than that is the perpetual play by play scrutiny in training camp. If Leo doesn't get a sack on every play, trade him. Poole doesn't come up with a pass block or an INT on every play, our slot corner sucks. It's camp, the offensive player wins sometimes, the defensive player wins sometimes. Players in this league would trade the farm for are getting beat or losing their battle every day in practice, if they actually read other team camp reports. Fans have tunnel vision on this stuff, so annoying. fwiw I do think our corners, and our defense overall is pretty weak. I just think the nickel position gets unfairly picked on no matter who is playing it. It's so hard in todays NFL to slow guys down in the middle of the field. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted August 11, 2019 Author Share Posted August 11, 2019 11 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: Off the top of your head, who is the best nickel back in the NFL? It's a very difficult position to play. You don't have the sideline to work with and you can barely touch WR's anymore. Every nickel back gets beat at a higher rate than outside CB's do. They're always hated by the fans. It's just a tough spot. The league wants offense to win. Bryce Callahan is the best nickelback in the league. Chris Harris and Desmond King are probably also in the top 5 at the position. That was off the top of my head. Hopefully Dortch is just gonna be good but Poole has never been a great coverage guy and that’s why I worry. We have an elite interior coverage guy in Adams so that’s nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post slats Posted August 11, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted August 11, 2019 39 minutes ago, kdels62 said: I’m concerned that our UDFA receiver is beating our starting nickel CB. But I’m also on the Dortch hype train. Eric Tomlinson has to be cut this year, right? 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 5 minutes ago, kdels62 said: Bryce Callahan is the best nickelback in the league. Chris Harris and Desmond King are probably also in the top 5 at the position. That was off the top of my head. Hopefully Dortch is just gonna be good but Poole has never been a great coverage guy and that’s why I worry. We have an elite interior coverage guy in Adams so that’s nice. So the Bears just let the best nickelback in the league walk and replaced him with Buster Skrine? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 13 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: Off the top of your head, who is the best nickel back in the NFL? It's a very difficult position to play. You don't have the sideline to work with and you can barely touch WR's anymore. Every nickel back gets beat at a higher rate than outside CB's do. They're always hated by the fans. It's just a tough spot. The league wants offense to win. This is why you have to mix zone D in the middle, and man on the outside. This can become confusing to install, but when ran properly by the D it is also confusing to the QB, the 09, 10 Rex Ryan Jets D had a TON of smart veterans who could execute this, and confused Rivers, Palmer, Manning, and Brady in 2 playoff years. Unfortunately the Pats figured out how to attack this, and just about every other defense philosophy known to man except the one that has 4 pass rushing beasts up front. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 56 minutes ago, kdels62 said: Trade or injury? Even though Cashman has an injury history we are still very deep at ILB, and if we were going to make a trade for OL or CB Williamson and Leo are the two pieces that have trade value from a positional depth standpoint. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 9 minutes ago, kdels62 said: We have an elite interior coverage guy in Adams so that’s nice. ?????????????????????????? Oh wait your not serious are you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted August 11, 2019 Author Share Posted August 11, 2019 10 minutes ago, Lupz27 said: ?????????????????????????? Oh wait your not serious are you? I’m gonna not actually respond to you because we don’t need another Jamal Adams thread. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Copernicus Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 1 hour ago, kdels62 said: 3/3!!!!! Strange that Cat was brought back at all after such a strong showing Bertolet had last year. I wonder what impact he had on the Jets front office to warrent him being brought back and the only kicker in camp. Equally as strange that Cat retired as opposed to being cut. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy 2 Times Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 2 hours ago, kdels62 said: big news Easy there JD. Don't touch him too hard... 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 2 hours ago, kdels62 said: big news What is this sheet Douglas is holding? Depth chart? Play Calls? I don't recall ever seeing previous GM's being so hands on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge4Tide Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 Right now, we have to say both Greg Dortch and Kyron Brown are safely on the roster. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sarge4Tide Posted August 11, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted August 11, 2019 13 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: What is this sheet Douglas is holding? Depth chart? Play Calls? I don't recall ever seeing previous GM's being so hands on. Eagles roster 4 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post slats Posted August 11, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted August 11, 2019 9 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: What is this sheet Douglas is holding? Depth chart? Play Calls? I don't recall ever seeing previous GM's being so hands on. Bowles and Mac were running two separate departments, separately. Joe Douglas talked about working hand in hand with Gase to build the roster at his introductory press conference. Hopefully this is an example of exactly that. JD getting into the playbook to have a better understanding of what Gase wants. 4 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 46 minutes ago, kdels62 said: I’m gonna not actually respond to you because we don’t need another Jamal Adams thread. Dooooooo itttttttttt 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 1 hour ago, kdels62 said: 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadienJetsFan Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 So if a kicker isn’t perfect while practicing , he’s labelled as having a bad day. Got it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Barry McCockinner said: fwiw I do think our corners (are weak) Agree. Quote and our defense overall is pretty weak. Not sure where you see that outside of CB. Front 7 is talented AND pretty deep. Edge rusher will continue to be a "show me" position and we'll have to count on guys like Jenkins, Copeland, Luvu and rookie Polite to generate a rush from the outside, but that's really the only question in my mind. Leo, Henry Anderson, McClendon, Quinnen are solid on DLine.....CJ Mosely and Avery Williamson are excellent and I even like the depth behind them with Hewitt, Anthony Wint and even rookie Blake Cashman. I might be missing something but this looks like the best front 7 we've had in a decade. Include Jamal and we've got an exceptional mix of both talent and youth. Get me one CB and a stud Edge guy if Polite doesn't work out and we're the '85 Bears!!! lol 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 Just now, CanadienJetsFan said: So if a kicker isn’t perfect while practicing , he’s labelled as having a bad day. Got it No, but when he misses from the 35 yard line on the first day he shows up with an opportunity to instill confidence in the kicking game.....yeah, concerning and not good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadienJetsFan Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, jetstream23 said: Get me one CB and a stud Edge guy if Polite doesn't work out and we're the '85 Bears!!! lol Do you want anything else with that? Like an apple turnover? This defence has a long way to go before they’re considered “good” Maybe Williams( the coach) can be the difference maker 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 1 hour ago, johnnysd said: Even though Cashman has an injury history we are still very deep at ILB, and if we were going to make a trade for OL or CB Williamson and Leo are the two pieces that have trade value from a positional depth standpoint. Exactly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadienJetsFan Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 5 minutes ago, jetstream23 said: No, but when he misses from the 35 yard line on the first day he shows up with an opportunity to instill confidence in the kicking game.....yeah, concerning and not good. Aren’t they bringing in a few more to try out? There’s still plenty of time to straighten out the kicking position 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadienJetsFan Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 Did I just hear that Johnson tweeked his hamstring? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 1 hour ago, slats said: Eric Tomlinson has to be cut this year, right? Wesco could be a surprise PS guy. Tomlinson makes the team by default Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 7 minutes ago, CanadienJetsFan said: Do you want anything else with that? Like an apple turnover? This defence has a long way to go before they’re considered “good” Maybe Williams( the coach) can be the difference maker I do love me some apple turnovers. Let's see what this group looks like on the field. I'm optimistic and actually think the D will be better than the O this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 1 minute ago, CanadienJetsFan said: Did I just hear that Johnson tweeked his hamstring? May be more than a tweak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jetstream23 Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 6 minutes ago, CanadienJetsFan said: Aren’t they bringing in a few more to try out? There’s still plenty of time to straighten out the kicking position Yeah, a few more.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadienJetsFan Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 Just now, Lith said: May be more than a tweak Oye... wrap him up in bubble wrap until the season begins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 19 minutes ago, Matt39 said: Wesco could be a surprise PS guy. Tomlinson makes the team by default That would be disappointing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 1 minute ago, slats said: That would be disappointing. Sadly, having a mid-round Macc pick make the PS is actually a step up. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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