rldev Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 6 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Agree 110% If you trade Williams even up for Ramsey you have an impact shutdown CB immediately changes the face of the D Not that I'm against it, but there really aren't "shutdown" corners anymore. It's just the way the rules work. I don't recall Ramsey or the Jaguar defense being so great last season. But if I have to choose between an overvalued DL and an overvalued CB, I'll take the CB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 1 minute ago, rldev said: Not that I'm against it, but there really aren't "shutdown" corners anymore. It's just the way the rules work. I don't recall Ramsey or the Jaguar defense being so great last season. But if I have to choose between an overvalued DL and an overvalued CB, I'll take the CB. Jalen Ramsey would change the D here. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 18 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Blah blah old man take a happy pill you've been a miserable crotchety old man for far too long. Your handling the buttfumble quite well, Mrs. Doubtfire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14 in Green Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 5 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Jalen Ramsey would change the D here. At this point, Elvis “Toast” Patterson would. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 Just now, Integrity28 said: Your handling the buttfumble quite well, Mrs. Doubtfire. No worries I take it from the source..sad life you lead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 Just now, 14 in Green said: At this point, Elvis “Toast” Patterson would. Otis "Toast" Smith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 1 minute ago, joewilly12 said: No worries I take it from the source..sad life you lead. This literally makes zero sense. If I’m so sad, and you’re so above it all, why u triggered? Please only respond in shirtless blue collar worker photos. At least then I’ll get what you’re saying. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post genot Posted August 12, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted August 12, 2019 I'll probably be buttfumbled for this. I don't think it was an intelligent roster move, releasing Derrick Jones. What about a Tarell Basham, or an Anthony Wint???? Derrick Jones might not be much, but to deplete the secondary even further based on performance this early to me, is short sighted. Felt the same way with Leggett 5 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 Just now, Integrity28 said: This literally makes zero sense. If I’m so sad, and you’re so above it all, why u triggered? Please only respond in shirtless blue collar worker photos. At least then I’ll get what you’re saying. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 1 minute ago, genot said: I'll probably be buttfumbled for this. I don't think it was an intelligent roster move, releasing Derrick Jones. What about a Tarell Basham, or an Anthony Wint???? Derrick Jones might not be much, but to deplete the secondary even further based on performance this early to me, is short sighted. Felt the same way with Leggett Agree and the Packers claimed him immediately. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Team archer Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 26 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Darnold's #1 target in 2019 will be Crowder. Crowder is only helped with an outside threat like robby 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genot Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Agree and the Packers claimed him immediately. 6 teams put in a claim for Leggett. It's an issue with Gase, i believe. I'm not saying he's a bad coach, or he's going to fail here. He appears to make rash decisions at times. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 59 minutes ago, jetstream23 said: QW at DE....is that what the coaches want to happen this early or what they may feel forced to do if Leo isn't 100% ? Or by “taking the best player” we have a logjam again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 1 minute ago, Matt39 said: Or by “taking the best player” we have a logjam again. Leo and Henry have both been dinged up this week. I'm not sure we can call it a log-jam. I don't know what we will have with the other guys besides McLendon so having 3 quality DE/DT hybrids to fill 2-3 spots depending on the formation doesn't seem excessive. Now if we could convert one of them into an equally valuable starting CB, I get that, but it's not like we're going to have talent riding the bench at any position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 19 minutes ago, Team archer said: Crowder is only helped with an outside threat like robby Oh this is the new one, I see. The "Crowder really isn't very good except when there's a hall of famer like Robby Anderson on the outside" take. I like it. You know who is gonna LOVE it? @Joe W. Namath You guys should tailgate together with the wives. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomberjet Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 20 minutes ago, genot said: 6 teams put in a claim for Leggett. It's an issue with Gase, i believe. I'm not saying he's a bad coach, or he's going to fail here. He appears to make rash decisions at times. The rashest, lamest move in my mind was ridding of D. Lee for a 6th rounder. Gase should have kept him . He would have thrived with the defense, in camp at the least, and would have made perfect trade bait for CB, imo. I'm starting to questions Gase's methods - he's acting too irrational and those smelling salts make a case for his head not thinking straight. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 8 minutes ago, nycdan said: Leo and Henry have both been dinged up this week. I'm not sure we can call it a log-jam. I don't know what we will have with the other guys besides McLendon so having 3 quality DE/DT hybrids to fill 2-3 spots depending on the formation doesn't seem excessive. Now if we could convert one of them into an equally valuable starting CB, I get that, but it's not like we're going to have talent riding the bench at any position. I mean I believe the idea was for Quinnen to be a 3 down player with a plus pass rush immediately no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post UntouchableCrew Posted August 12, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted August 12, 2019 27 minutes ago, genot said: 6 teams put in a claim for Leggett. It's an issue with Gase, i believe. I'm not saying he's a bad coach, or he's going to fail here. He appears to make rash decisions at times. I think Leggett was about sending a message as much as anything. He's an entitled dog, by all accounts (including his own.) Nobody is sticking around because of their name or draft status if they're lazy. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genot Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 1 minute ago, UntouchableCrew said: I think Leggett was about sending a message as much as anything. He's an entitled dog, by all accounts (including his own.) Nobody is sticking around because of their name or draft status if they're lazy. He didn't look lazy last year when he was throwing his body around to protect Sam, and open up things in the running game.Gase sent a message in Miami, by dumping Laundry and Adajay. worked out good for them. not the Dolphins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genot Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 9 minutes ago, Bomberjet said: The rashest, lamest move in my mind was ridding of D. Lee for a 6th rounder. Gase should have kept him . He would have thrived with the defense, in camp at the least, and would have made perfect trade bait for CB, imo. I'm starting to questions Gase's methods - he's acting too irrational and those smelling salts make a case for his head not thinking straight. I agree, Gase is the coach of a team i've rooted for for 30 years. I want him to succeed. He shouldn't be immune from criticism because his name isn't Bowles. I think his ego is getting in the way of proper roster management. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post slats Posted August 12, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted August 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Greenbloodblitz said: Unfortunately at this point we're in emergency mode and we have to trade somebody that can bring in a few players. It's either Leo or Williamson. Maybe even Robby Anderson. And no I don't like that idea either. But we're seriously lacking depth in a few spots. I'm pretty sure we're all against giving up any picks for anybody, but at this point something has to be done. I'd like to see a DL traded for a CB, but there's no way the Jets trade Robby Anderson. Jets are closer to trading for a WR than trading one away. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 1 hour ago, joewilly12 said: Agree 110% If you trade Williams even up for Ramsey you have an impact shutdown CB immediately changes the face of the D You couldn’t get Jalen Ramsey for two Leonard Williamses 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rsherman28 Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 11 minutes ago, Bomberjet said: The rashest, lamest move in my mind was ridding of D. Lee for a 6th rounder. Gase should have kept him . He would have thrived with the defense, in camp at the least, and would have made perfect trade bait for CB, imo. I'm starting to questions Gase's methods - he's acting too irrational and those smelling salts make a case for his head not thinking straight. I agree we should have held on to Lee longer but not until camp. It would have been nice to see what JD could have done with him. Not sure what corner on the trade block would make Lee perfect trade bait but who knows? how much more than a 6th we would have gotten, just sucks its the chiefs, basically makes it a 7th. Yes Gase can act irrational at times and might be a nut for the smelling salts (which for some odd reason I love) but he was put in a rare or unique situation with the GM getting fired at the time he did and became the interm GM, which we saw in MIA, isn't his best quality. With JD in place and the front office we built around him, Gase should just basically be just coaching up Sam and the offense while being good at in game time management and roster decisions. 2 late round picks for 2 jags < Joe Douglas and Front office. Take it for what it is, without Gase, not sure JD is here today. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 6 minutes ago, T0mShane said: You couldn’t get Jalen Ramsey for two Leonard Williamses Tom Coughlin wants him gone and you throw in a draft pick if you have to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 1 hour ago, joewilly12 said: Leonard Williams even up for Jalen Ramsey 1 hour ago, 14 in Green said: I like this. A lot. Or course you do because it's absolutely insane and absurd and not even the dumbest GM on the planet would make that trade. lol Like trading a Porsche for a Kia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 1 hour ago, genot said: I'll probably be buttfumbled for this. I don't think it was an intelligent roster move, releasing Derrick Jones. What about a Tarell Basham, or an Anthony Wint???? Derrick Jones might not be much, but to deplete the secondary even further based on performance this early to me, is short sighted. Felt the same way with Leggett No butt fumble here, I gave you rep because I agree. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 1 minute ago, JiF said: Or course you do because it's absolutely insane and absurd and not even the dumbest GM on the planet would make that trade. lol Like trading a Porsche for a Kia. Jets might have to sweeten the deal with a draft pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 Just now, joewilly12 said: Jets might have to sweeten the deal with a draft pick. Ya think? lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rsherman28 Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Tom Coughlin wants him gone and you throw in a draft pick if you have to. With this being Leo's last year on his contract, you would basically be giving up draft capital for a one year rental on a player that you are going to have to pay big now or next year to avoid losing him in FA. Henry Anderson maybe ? lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genot Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 8 minutes ago, T0mShane said: You couldn’t get Jalen Ramsey for two Leonard Williamses Roll em smaller Tom 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 1 minute ago, JiF said: Ya think? lol Who knows? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 Just now, genot said: Roll em smaller Tom Only thing he's smoking is his socks he can't afford weed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genot Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, JiF said: No butt fumble here, I gave you rep because I agree. God bless you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genot Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 Just now, joewilly12 said: Only thing he's smoking is his socks he can't afford weed. Lol. We love Tom. His issues are understandable, considering where he grew up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 32 minutes ago, Matt39 said: I mean I believe the idea was for Quinnen to be a 3 down player with a plus pass rush immediately no? very excited for December, when half the board will be explaining that #actually it’s not a big deal that Q only has 2.5 sacks because he’s occupying blockers, which allows other guys to make plays 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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