Training Camp Tweets (8/12)

[joewilly12]

Just now, genot said:

Lol. We love Tom. His issues are understandable, considering where he grew up

Hell's Kitchen

[Paradis]

lol,  jesus what a calamity of errors and injuries out there today. Multiple spitting-coffee-on-the-monitor moments reading these tweets. 

 

SOJ juju is fighting to stay afloat like a sunday log in the toilet. 

[varjet]

When you see how DL like Foley and Shepherd, with Quinnen, Henry and McClendon, can perform, parting with Leo and his cap space to get a better corner is a no brainer.  

He may not get the Jets Ramsey.  Maybe a couple of years of Peterson packed with another player or draft pick.  

There is obviously a tension here between going for the playoffs this year and making progress with an obviously deficient roster that Douglas and Gase inherited.  

Gase as interim GM obviously wanted nothing to do with Leggett and Lee and dumped them.  Douglas as GM now controls the roster, so he would have been involved to release Derrick Jones.  

I would be curious to see how Lee, Leggett and Jones play during the rest of the preseason and end up on Opening Day.  

[T0mShane]

5 minutes ago, joewilly12 said:

Jets might have to sweeten the deal with a draft pick. 

Jamal Adams for Jalen Ramsey.

[joewilly12]

6 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

Jamal Adams for Jalen Ramsey.

No way in hell. 

 

 

[Gastineau Lives]

5 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

Jamal Adams for Jalen Ramsey.

I'll kill you.

[Beerfish]

22 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

You couldn’t get Jalen Ramsey for two Leonard Williamses

We are trading both leo and quinnen?

[Spoot-Face]

4 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

Jamal Adams for Jalen Ramsey.

That's like trading a dancing megaphone for a gun in a zombie apocalypse.

 

So we should totally do it.

[Dcat]

1 hour ago, joewilly12 said:

Jalen Ramsey would change the D here. 

would trade Leo for Ramsey in the blink of an eye.  

[genot]

11 minutes ago, joewilly12 said:

Hell's Kitchen

[jeTMAC]

2 hours ago, sourceworx said:

They're shopping him.  Expect a trade soon.

 

Nobody knows who fatukasi is but us fans and jets. 0 trade value

[Bleedin Green]

I'm the furthest thing there is from a Gase fan, but the Lee move has no relation to anything going on today.  By all accounts, the entire team wanted Lee gone throughout the offseason.  Gase clearly wasn't a fan, but reports also suggested that Williams wanted little to do with him, and the prior front office had been actively shopping their very own first-round pick before they were fired.  The only real difference was that when Macc was arguing with the Chiefs over getting a 5th rounder instead of a 6th, Gase conceded.  All of this after the position had one established starter returning, and still been filled this offseason with a record-breaking FA signing, a draft pick, and the return of a depth guy who started in Lee's place last year and showed no drop-off in play.

Regardless of what you think about that sequence of events, it shares no link to a move made by the new GM related to a late round pick of his predecessor, buried at a position despite the lack of talent it has, and has shown nothing on the field.  I'll admit that it was a bit surprising to see them not to bring more CB depth in with the move, but as a general rule if the team thinks so little of a player that they don't think they merit a spot on a 90-man roster, keeping them around isn't in the best interests of the team nor the player.

The team absolutely needs some more help at CB, and it's not like they don't know that, but clearly they thought Jones didn't provide that to them.  Whether they make any of the other moves some have suggested, or any other options that might come up between trades or cuts, clearly his presence wasn't going to influence them one way or another.

[JustInFudge]

28 minutes ago, joewilly12 said:

Who knows? 

I specifically know without a shadow a doubt and 100% confidence the Jags would laugh their asses off at the idea of trading Jalen Ramsey straight up for Leonard Williams.

[joewilly12]

1 minute ago, JiF said:

I specifically know without a shadow a doubt and 100% confidence the Jags would laugh their asses off at the idea of trading Jalen Ramsey straight up for Leonard Williams.

It has been mentioned that Tom Coughlin is not a Jalen Ramsey fan. We could offer a draft pick to sweeten the deal. 

[JustInFudge]

1 minute ago, joewilly12 said:

It has been mentioned that Tom Coughlin is not a Jalen Ramsey fan. We could offer a draft pick to sweeten the deal. 

A pick or 2 and probably another player as well.

 

[nycdan]

The Jaguars have massive problems on Offense, especially with a rash of recent injuries.  I don't think they are looking to plug holes on the DL as a top priority (esp. w/ Josh Allen in camp) and if they are going to burn the Jalen Ramsey chip, I suspect it will be to help the OLine or WR units.

[genot]

I think an A.J Bouye or a Darius Slay for a pick or two, are more realistic options for us. Both are good corners, and the price wouldn't be nearly as high.

[T0mShane]

33 minutes ago, Gastineau Lives said:

I'll kill you.

I’ll send you some green duct tape and a sharpie, you DISGUSTING SELLOUT

[joewilly12]

4 minutes ago, genot said:

I think an A.J Bouye or a Darius Slay for a pick or two, are more realistic options for us. Both are good corners, and the price wouldn't be nearly as high.

Agree but if we are going to trade a former #1 pick I would want a player of Jalen Ramseys caliber in return if possible. 

[Gastineau Lives]

7 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

I’ll send you some green duct tape and a sharpie, you DISGUSTING SELLOUT

The only guy who calls you a sellout when you buy the jersey of a player on the team he roots for. What a disgrace.

[joewilly12]

1 minute ago, Gastineau Lives said:

The only guy who calls you a sellout when you buy the jersey of a player on the team he roots for. What a disgrace.

@T0mShane reminds me of @PatsFanTX

[14 in Green]

1 hour ago, JiF said:

 

Or course you do because it's absolutely insane and absurd and not even the dumbest GM on the planet would make that trade. lol

Like trading a Porsche for a Kia. 

 

#meGMinglol

[#27TheDominator]

2 hours ago, 14 in Green said:

At this point, Elvis “Toast” Patterson would.

Elvis Patterson was the Space Ghost.  Like Bobby Jackson, he was better than people remember.  Starting CB on a super bowl team that won with defense and an excellent special teams player for about a decade.  People look down on him because that fat **** gave him that nickname.   It should say "Fat ****" under that fat ****'s d-cup bust in Canton.

[Losmeister]

just because you dont understand certain roster moves doesn't make them rash...  you may disagree

for whatever reasons....       fine.

 

I woulda gotten ridda Lee after year2. It's like playing with 10 men about 75% of the time cos he takes himself out of plays cos he got the football sense of a deer in the headlights.

Leggett? Did he make any plays last year? Didnt herndon look good?

 

[Losmeister]

Leo Williams is the best trade bait, IMHO.

Above avg v run, below avg v pass...make him slightly above avg.

Any game making plays in teh 4th q you can EVER remember Leo making? 

Drive stop plays when we are relinquishing the lead? ( Same for everybody else on the D including Jamal.) 

We can get a half decent CB for him.

[nycdan]

41 minutes ago, joewilly12 said:

It has been mentioned that Tom Coughlin is not a Jalen Ramsey fan. We could offer a draft pick to sweeten the deal. 

So just one man's opinion here, but when a player on another team makes noise about wanting to be traded, and names the 2 teams he would most like to sign a long-term deal with next year when he's on his last year, and your team isn't one of those two teams, you don't trade for him.

 

[Lith]

39 minutes ago, nycdan said:

The Jaguars have massive problems on Offense, especially with a rash of recent injuries.  I don't think they are looking to plug holes on the DL as a top priority (esp. w/ Josh Allen in camp) and if they are going to burn the Jalen Ramsey chip, I suspect it will be to help the OLine or WR units.

Agreed.  Calis Campbell, Marcel Dareus, Yannick Ngakoue and Josh Allen is a pretty solid group.  Their biggest holes on the roster are probably TE and OT.  short of giving them picks, they don't seem like a trading partner for us.

[Augustiniak]

2 minutes ago, Losmeister said:

Leo Williams is the best trade bait, IMHO.

Above avg v run, below avg v pass...make him slightly above avg.

Any game making plays in teh 4th q you can EVER remember Leo making? 

Drive stop plays when we are relinquishing the lead? ( Same for everybody else on the D including Jamal.) 

We can get a half decent CB for him.

Plus it’s not as if the jets are going to pay him, a lumbering run stuffer who doesn’t get many sacks, after they drafted Q.  If they’re going to trade anyone it’s Leo.

[#27TheDominator]

4 minutes ago, Losmeister said:

Leo Williams is the best trade bait, IMHO.

Above avg v run, below avg v pass...make him slightly above avg.

Any game making plays in teh 4th q you can EVER remember Leo making? 

Drive stop plays when we are relinquishing the lead? ( Same for everybody else on the D including Jamal.) 

We can get a half decent CB for him.

Really sounds like great trade bait!

[Lith]

 

[Mark78]

38 minutes ago, joewilly12 said:

Agree but if we are going to trade a former #1 pick I would want a player of Jalen Ramseys caliber in return if possible. 

If we don’t get pass rushing pressure on the Qb it sort of offsets having a great CB.  If a QB has time to sit in the pocket, players will get open.  We need a balance between the Pass rush and defensive backs

[Jetsfan80]

3 minutes ago, Mark78 said:

If we don’t get pass rushing pressure on the Qb it sort of offsets having a great CB.  If a QB has time to sit in the pocket, players will get open.  We need a balance between the Pass rush and defensive backs

Luckily we have neither!

[BornJetsFan1983]

1 hour ago, Gastineau Lives said:

I'll kill you.

seems extreme

[Gastineau Lives]

Just now, BornJetsFan1983 said:

seems extreme

Nothing is too good for this piece of trash

[RobR]

11 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

Luckily we have neither!

A perfect balance.