Joe W. Namath Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 2 hours ago, #27TheDominator said: You guys still think Cousins got too much? Cousins is a great deal for the vikes. With a real offensive coaching staff in their this year, i think cousins leads the vikes to the super bowl. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alka Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 While Quarterback is the most important position on a football team, the only QB who is worth more than 30M is one who makes all the other players around him better. Like Tom Brady, Payton Manning type of QB. DaK is not that type of QB. Based upon last year, and his entire history, I think he is worth around 20M per year. Give him incentives for being in the top 5 QB's to get him a 5M bonus, and another 5M if he gets the team to the Super Bowl. Then he can have his 30M. I would play hard ball and let him play out his contract and let him walk otherwise. In any case, he isn't good enough to raise everyone else's level of play like Tom Brady can. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001040986/article/dak-prescott-seeking-extension-worth-40myear Dak Prescott seeking extension worth $40M/year By Jeremy Bergman Around The NFL Writer Published: Aug. 12, 2019 at 05:11 p.m. Updated: Aug. 12, 2019 at 07:27 p.m. Dak Prescott wants to be the highest-paid quarterback in the NFL. That much is clear from his latest contract demand. The Dallas Cowboys quarterback, who is entering the final year of his contract and has been negotiating an extension with the club, has turned down a deal worth $30 million per year and is instead seeking a contract worth $40 million per year, NFL Network's Jane Slater reported Monday, per a source informed of the talks. If Prescott were to sign a deal worth $40 million in annual average value (AAV), that would make him the league's highest-paid QB in AAV by $5 million, around 14.3 percent more than the league-high $35M per year that Russell Wilson is making on his current deal, per Spotrac. A $30M-per-year pact, meanwhile, would put Prescott in the company of Matt Ryan (fifth in AAV). How likely it is that Dallas would agree to make Prescott the league's highest-paid QB and by such a large margin is unknown, though probably miniscule. As Slater added, Prescott demanding $40M per year is "negotiating and business" and that the eventual agreed-to number is likely closer to $34-35 million per year. Dak's not-so-subtle contract demands come while the Cowboys are juggling three concurrent negotiations with their star quarterback (Prescott), running back (Ezekiel Elliott) and wide receiver (Amari Cooper). Prescott's and Cooper's deals are up at the end of the 2019 season, while Elliott's is set to expire following the 2020 campaign. Slater reported last week that all three have "generous" offers on the table from Dallas, though what is perceived as "generous" at this point is a matter of perspective. While Prescott and Cooper have attended Cowboys training camp in Oxnard, California during their negotiations, Elliott has been holding out and working out in Cabo San Lucas, Mexico. Prescott played one series in Dallas' preseason opener. The team returns to Dallas following its second preseason game against the Los Angeles Rams in Hawaii on Aug. 17. It is expected upon the Cowboys' return to Texas on Aug. 20 that these negotiations will heat up. Whether Prescott is worth a contract extension that makes him the highest-paid quarterback in the NFL is the debate in which the football world has been engaged since news of his talks with Dallas began. In three years as the starting QB of "America's Team," Prescott, along with Elliott and an all-world offensive line, has piloted Dallas to a 32-16 record, two playoff appearances and NFC East titles and one playoff victory. The 2016 Offensive Rookie of the Year has completed 66.1 percent of his passes, thrown 67 touchdowns to 25 picks and played in two Pro Bowls. It's not clear that Prescott is or will be a top-10 quarterback, but that's not what is at stake this summer and autumn. Whether he will become among the top-paid quarterbacks and players this league has ever seen and set the market for future QB extensions is. Prescott believes he deserves a contract that reflects all that and more. How Dallas proceeds following his latest outsize demand will be telling. Dez Bryant ✔@DezBryant Pay Dak his 40Mil and don’t @ me 12K 5:05 PM - Aug 12, 2019 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WayneChrebet80 Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 To be fair we have no idea what the guaranteed $ offered to Dak was. Hes probably better off utilizing the franchise tag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 4 hours ago, Jack Straw said: I wouldn't pay Dak $20 million/year, and yes, I am serious. Nick Foles got about 22 million a year. Personally, I rather have Dak.....but it's real close. The reality is that the going rate for game managers is about 20-25 million. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doggin94it Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 4 hours ago, #27TheDominator said: You guys still think Cousins got too much? Yes. And dak wouldn't get 30 if he hit the market Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bungaman Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 Given that I loath Dallas, but my boss is a Dallas fan, I have to gloat with a very low profile ... Ironically, if you want to field a team, Jerruh SHOULDN'T give either one of them what they are asking for. He might end up trading them both for two guys who are 75% of the players that they are, a bunch of good picks, and have a fair amount of cash left over to keep the team competitive. But I cheerfully doubt he'll do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 Dak on that blue meth 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJ Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 Gold Jerry, Gold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Straw Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 1 hour ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: Nick Foles got about 22 million a year. Personally, I rather have Dak.....but it's real close. The reality is that the going rate for game managers is about 20-25 million. Agreed. I understand what the market rate is for shleps like Nick Foles/Dak Prescott....But I'd rather have Brooks Bollinger at $1.5mm/year than either of those guys at $22.5mm/year, let alone the $30mm that Prescott turned down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 3 hours ago, Joe W. Namath said: Cousins is a great deal for the vikes. With a real offensive coaching staff in their this year, i think cousins leads the vikes to the super bowl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 17 minutes ago, Jack Straw said: Agreed. I understand what the market rate is for shleps like Nick Foles/Dak Prescott....But I'd rather have Brooks Bollinger at $1.5mm/year than either of those guys at $22.5mm/year, let alone the $30mm that Prescott turned down. You would have to pay me to watch brooks bollinger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 1 hour ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: Nick Foles got about 22 million a year. Personally, I rather have Dak.....but it's real close. The reality is that the going rate for game managers is about 20-25 million. Dak is a good QB he is not a $30 million a year guy let alone 40 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 Ok you can go look it up in the draft forums, I am a huge Dak guy, but no MFing way would I give that guy more then 20 million, yes 20 million is a fair price for a QB of Daks caliber which is more leader/game manager then anything else which is great from a 4th rounder. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hael Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 People went nuts when we paid McCown one third of that, and he was coming of a season where he was manifestly and statistically better than Dak by a significant margin. Qb money is pretty crazy and it’s the one time in football where the player has a significant bargaining advantage. Dak is a very mediocre qb with not much upside, but he controls the fate of a potential Super Bowl team. Trading him for picks and say a side grade like Teddy Bridgewater would sink their season at this stage as a qb takes quite a bit of time to develop in a system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 5 hours ago, Joe W. Namath said: Cousins is a great deal for the vikes. With a real offensive coaching staff in their this year, i think cousins leads the vikes to the super bowl. lol. Cousins is terrible. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 Dak seems like a $25M/year QB type....the idea that he'd even approach Matt Ryan's $30M/year is a little ridiculous to me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadienJetsFan Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 9 hours ago, Drums said: WOW -- There is not one team that would pay him more than 30 million, no matter how desperate they are at QB. You sure about that? How much did Macc offer Cousins? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeWillieWhiteShoesHOF Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 11 hours ago, T0mShane said: Dak sucks. The guy has pretty much regressed every year. The QB dollars are insane, everyone knows that, Ryan Fitzpatrick is a Super Millionaire for gosh sakes, but this is really disturbing hearing this guy has the stones to turn down $30Mill for 1 year of play....and Dallas will NEVER win it all with him, I don't even think he is good enough for an annual play-off ride, which should be the floor for anyone getting paid $30Mill a year. His first year he had hands down the best O-line in the league and the best RB. What QB wouldn't look real good with that? Glad he is not a Jet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeWillieWhiteShoesHOF Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 3 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said: lol. Cousins is terrible. 4-26 vs Winning Teams really does qualify as "terrible"....good for you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdxgreen Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 Usually I back an NFL player in his salary demands all the way. But this time... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apache 51 Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 9 hours ago, Jack Straw said: Of course I am not, which is why I said "I wouldn't" and not "I will not." But thank you for reminding me that I am not, in fact, Jerry Jones. Nobody would but...JJ will...other owners too will pay more than 30. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREENBEAN Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 11 hours ago, Peace Frog said: He’s their 5th option so they should be fine. The flub that never dies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREENBEAN Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 11 hours ago, 14 in Green said: Are you serious? You would do the same thing if you were in Dak’s position, and you’re lying if you say you wouldn’t. You ask for what you can get, when you can get it. Nobody in their right mind is leaving an extra 10 million a year on the table. If the owners have a problem fitting these QB salaries in the ‘cap, eff them. Then the rich ba***ards just have to raise the cap. I would take the $30 mil per without question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apache 51 Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, GREENBEAN said: I would take the $30 mil per without question. Most of us that aren't in DAks position would. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 Can’t wait to see the board turn on Sam in two years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 11 minutes ago, GREENBEAN said: I would take the $30 mil per without question. Would you take 75,000 from your company if a competitor will pay you 100,000? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 They’ll resolve this with absurd funny money tacked onto the end of a long term deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREENBEAN Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 18 minutes ago, Apache 51 said: Most of us that aren't in DAks position would. Even in his position. I know a very famous musician who has been successful for over 30m years. He told me a little while back that his net worth was around $20 mil. Thats 30 years of success leading to approx $20 mil. Sure he's made more over his lifetime but that's what he has. $30 mil per is ridiculous money and we shouldn't lose sight of that. I'm usually on the side of the player getting their due, but this is ridic! (ridic is how the kids say it now) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREENBEAN Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 14 minutes ago, jgb said: Would you take 75,000 from your company if a competitor will pay you 100,000? What competitor is paying him that 25% increase from $30 mil? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apache 51 Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, GREENBEAN said: Even in his position. I know a very famous musician who has been successful for over 30m years. He told me a little while back that his net worth was around $20 mil. Thats 30 years of success leading to approx $20 mil. Sure he's made more over his lifetime but that's what he has. $30 mil per is ridiculous money and we shouldn't lose sight of that. I'm usually on the side of the player getting their due, but this is ridic! (ridic is how the kids say it now) Its monies relative to the football / sports market. Not to regular human beings. Ridic...lol....thats lit is another..not drunk though but lit.Dak is worth 20..but JJ will pay him..btwn a rock and a hard place. It's an extra 5mill per to JJ that's like 5k to us. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 How's did Dak perform when some of his line was injured, without Zeke, that's how I look at these QBs & the answer is no better than Ryan Fitzpatrick. Even if they pay him 30 million Dallas Super Bowl dreams are dead if they don't win it this year. DEAD. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hael Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 The owners have to pay the money anyway, whether it goes to Dak or to other players its the same difference to their bottomline.. This is all about the salary cap and the Cowboys championship window. You figure their odds are going to dramatially decrease over the next 5 years with Zek or Dak taking a huge chunk of salary space (or worse gone, in which case you lost your signal caller and your best player) so the Cowboys are weighing the long term vs the short term. And let's be clear, Jerry isn't getting any younger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 1 hour ago, GREENBEAN said: Even in his position. I know a very famous musician who has been successful for over 30m years. He told me a little while back that his net worth was around $20 mil. Thats 30 years of success leading to approx $20 mil. Sure he's made more over his lifetime but that's what he has. $30 mil per is ridiculous money and we shouldn't lose sight of that. I'm usually on the side of the player getting their due, but this is ridic! (ridic is how the kids say it now) I'm always in favor of the players making as much money as they possibly can, but I'll also point it out when I think they're making a mistake. Like Bell, last year. He lost himself at least $14M that he'll never see again. In this case, it's MHO that Dak would not get $30M/year on the open market. I don't know how the Cowboys structured that deal (maybe it has little guaranteed, etc.), but I think he should sign that thing before Jones realizes what a mistake that offer is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantasy Island Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 This was all foretold: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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