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NFL trade rumors: Why Jets could be sneaky bidder for Texans’ Jadeveon Clowney

Updated 10:10 AM; Today 10:00 AM
Texans DE/OLB Jadeveon Clowney could be a great trade fit for the Jets.

Lori M. Nichols | NJ Advance Media for NJ.com

Texans DE/OLB Jadeveon Clowney could be a great trade fit for the Jets.

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By Joe Giglio | NJ Advance Media for NJ.com

Go get creative. Go get Jadaveon Clowney.

As the Jets get set for a year brimming with optimism in New York, reality will soon set in: Adam Gase and Sam Darnold will be successful and points will be scored, but wins won’t commence unless the defense is at least decent.

Right now, it’s hard to imagine the latter part of that equation coming to fruition. Avery Williamson is gone for the year, cornerback play is suspect and outside pass rush was largely ignored during the offseason.

It won’t be easy to replace Williamson and good corners don’t grow on trees, but trading for Clowney could be the great elixir to uplift this Jets defense.

Think it’s crazy? Maybe it is. But unless a team like the New England Patriots or Eagles steps up to get a deal done, Clowney is just lingering in Houston. The Jets could swoop in at anytime to make a blockbuster if general manager Joe Douglas wants to be creative.

Here’s an idea thrown out by ESPN’s Rich Cimini.

The most intriguing aspect of a potential Clowney trade is the Jets could use him for a year, then flip him with a tag-and-trade next March, perhaps recouping what they surrendered in the original trade. This would make a trade worth considering if it doesn’t include their 2020 first-round pick (and if they’re willing to gamble with Williams and free agency), but the whole thing seems unrealistic unless Houston holds a fire sale.

 


A Clowney rental would be fascinating, and give the Jets another impact star to make a run with in 2019.

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15 minutes ago, joewilly12 said:

the whole thing seems unrealistic

5 word article

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1 minute ago, Losmeister said:

5 word article

Lori M. Nichols | NJ Advance Media for NJ.com

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28 minutes ago, Larz said:

Build around Sam 

clowney will cost draft picks and cap space 

nah

Yeah, I remember when I was a Dolphin fan in 1984. All the message boards said, "build around Dan" and by God, thats exactly what they did. 6 Super Bowl wins later...we are now tied with Dan Fouts!

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Could Jadeveon Clowney help solve one of the Jets' biggest problems?

Houston Texans pass-rusher Jadeveon Clowney, who had 9 sacks last season, is in the midst of a contract dispute. Mark Brown/Getty Images

FLORHAM PARK, N.J. -- A look at what's happening around the New York Jets:

1. Intriguing option, but ...: The best way for the Jets to address their cornerback problem -- aside from, you know, getting a good cornerback -- is to strengthen the pass rush. As everybody knows, a great pass rush can make pedestrian corners look competent. This brings us to Houston Texans star Jadeveon Clowney, who could wind up on the trading block because of a messy contract situation. He's sitting out of training camp because he hasn't signed his franchise tender.

There's a lot of chatter on social media about whether the Jets should be interested in a trade. My initial thought: There are more cons than pros.

By rule, Clowney can't sign a long-term contract until after the season; the deadline was July 15. In essence, he'd be a one-year rental ($15.967 million) with the option of tagging him after the season. Because of that, the Texans' return will be less than what it would have been if they had traded him before July 15. That alone makes a trade unlikely.

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Let's say the Texans get desperate and decide to move him. The Jets have only $14.7 million in salary-cap space, per overthecap.com, so they'd have to cut players and/or rework contracts. A trade also could set the stage for a Clowney-or-Leonard Williams decision next offseason, as both would be candidates for the franchise tag.

No doubt, Clowney, 26, would represent as an upgrade at defensive end or outside linebacker. He would give them a much-needed presence on the edge, but let's be clear: He's not an elite pass rusher, à la Khalil Mack. Clowney recorded nine sacks last season, but only 5.5 came from the edge, per NFL Next Gen Stats. He generated 31 quarterback pressures as an edge player, barely ahead of current Jets linebacker Brandon Copeland (29) -- and Clowney had 156 more chances than Copeland. He also had serious knee issues early in 2014 and has played 16 games only once in his career.

The most intriguing aspect of a potential Clowney trade is the Jets could use him for a year, then flip him with a tag-and-trade next March, perhaps recouping what they surrendered in the original trade. This would make a trade worth considering if it doesn't include their 2020 first-round pick (and if they're willing to gamble with Williams and free agency), but the whole thing seems unrealistic unless Houston holds a fire sale.

2. The more, the merrier: One of Gregg Williams' core beliefs is he likes to rotate players, especially defensive linemen, to keep them fresh. The Jets' defensive coordinator, perhaps tweaking a former rival, said ex-Dallas Cowboyscoach Jimmy Johnson "copied" that approach from him.

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"You can't expect defensive linemen to play 100 percent of the snaps," he said. "It's a fist fight in a phone booth for three hours. How are you going to do that?"

The Cleveland Browns' stats from last season don't support the Williams Way -- defensive end Myles Garrett played a whopping 86% of the snaps -- but Williams explained that by saying he didn't feel comfortable with his backups. That, he said, won't be the case this season. He said his objective is to have "an even number of snaps" for every player. That could really help Leonard Williams (78%), whose fourth-quarter production was lacking perhaps because of fatigue.

Gregg Williams will use his bench, and he will deploy players in more than one position. He said it's "mandatory" every player learns two positions. For some, it's three positions. This is very Belichick-ian -- and that's a good thing because it means they should be prepared to adjust on the fly when injuries occur.

3. Thick skin required: You've probably heard a lot about Gregg Williams and his high level of accountability. If you mess up, you're going to get called out. If you complain about getting called out ... well, there's a penalty for that, too.

It's called "the feelings report," according to safety Jamal Adams. They actually have a board in the defensive meeting room that tracks the transgressions. If a player gets hit with a "sensitive fine," per Adams, his name goes up on the board.

This Gregg Williams will be an interesting guy to cover.

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4. Random rant: Quarterback Sam Darnold had a few hiccups in practice last week, then played as if the hiccups never happened. Gamer. ... If defensive end Bronson Kaufusidoesn't make the team, they need to re-examine the roster-picking process. ... How many general managers does it take to screw up a kicking situation? ... Player who has raised his stock the most over the past week: Defensive tackle Folorunso Fatukasi. ... Another riser: Outside linebacker Tarell Basham. He's an "ascending" player with "twitch and bounce," said position coach Joe Vitt. Twitch and bounce are good things. ... Coach Adam Gase keeps talking about the quick tempo on offense as if it's some sort of staple in his coaching career. Fact: The Miami Dolphins had the second "slowest" offense last season, averaging one play every 30.7 seconds, per ESPN Stats & Information. The Indianapolis Colts were the fastest at 27.0 seconds.

5. Did you know? Only two of the 10 highest-paid players on the team (based on 2019 cap charge) were drafted by the Jets -- Leonard Williams (first, $14.2 million) and Darnold (10th, $6.9 million). That's messed up. That will adversely impact the team in the coming years unless GM Joe Douglas can draft his rear end off.

6. The Voice: One of the rookie rituals is having to stand in front of the team and sing a song of your choice. If your vocal styling doesn't measure up, a siren will sound and you have to leave the stage. Rookie running back Valentine Holmes, the former Australian rugby star, chose to sing "Just a Friend" by Mario. How'd it go?

"Good and bad," Holmes said. "They kept me up there, but that meant I had to keep singing."

7. The new Robby: You have to be encouraged by Robby Anderson's performance in the Jets' second preseason game. For months, the coaches have been talking about how they're going to expand his route tree and make him more than a vertical receiver. That showed up against the Atlanta Falcons, as two of his three receptions came on underneath throws against tight coverage.

"In this offense, he will not be known as just a speed guy," receivers coach Shawn Jefferson said.

It will be a balance, of course, because the last thing you want to do is shut down your best home run hitter.

8. Tough call: The most intriguing decision for the roster cutdown will involve longtime vet Bilal Powell. They have a crowded backfield, with Powell, Elijah McGuire and Trenton Cannon fighting for the third and fourth spots.

Powell is a 30-year-old back, coming off neck injury, and he doesn't play special teams. He showed nice field vision and burst on his first preseason carry, an 18-yard run against the Falcons, but could they justify a roster spot as the RB3 behind Le'Veon Bell and Ty Montgomery? Cannon is excellent on special teams and is the leading candidate to return kickoffs. McGuire is a younger version of Powell, a versatile back who doesn't do special teams. They could keep all five, but they probably will need that roster spot elsewhere.

9. The last word: "I wouldn't say worry. That's kind of a word that I don't like to use. It's an issue. You want to work together and have chemistry. But this is pro football. They're pros. ... You'd love to just have five guys be in there for 20 years, but that's not realistic. I live in the real world. I don't live in fantasy land with unicorns and rainbows." -- offensive line coach Frank Pollack on the prospect of not having his starting five together until the regular season.

10. The last word, part II: "Kill a gnat with a sledgehammer. That's his mentality." -- linebackers coach Frank Bush on Gregg Williams.

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I’d do it

The Jets have 2-3 more years until they’re going to have to drop around $200 million on Darnold.

Now is the time to bring in big ticket players and make a strong push.

Also, Joe Douglas has spent his entire career around guys like Terrell Suggs, Peter Boulware, Michael Bennett, Brandon Graham, Chris Long, etc.

He knows the value of guys who can get after the QB. You can’t tell me he’s satisfied with the likes of Jordan Jenkins, Brandon Copeland and Frankie Luvu.

Clowney isn’t Khalil Mack but he’s a damn good player.

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8 minutes ago, Untouchable said:

I’d do it

The Jets have 2-3 more years until they’re going to have to drop around $200 million on Darnold.

Now is the time to bring in big ticket players and make a strong push.

Also, Joe Douglas has spent his entire career around guys like Terrell Suggs, Peter Boulware, Michael Bennett, Brandon Graham, Chris Long, etc.

He knows the value of guys who can get after the QB. You can’t tell me he’s satisfied with the likes of Jordan Jenkins, Brandon Copeland and Frankie Luvu.

Clowney isn’t Khalil Mack but he’s a damn good player.

I don’t mind trading for defensive players. The issue is he’s inconsistent and injury prone. 

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I can't see HOU getting anything resembling a 1st rounder for Clowney now that he can't be extended.  Hell, PIT only got a 3rd and a 5th for Brown and he *was* extendable, and not considered an injury risk (who knew!).  I think they would be lucky to score a 2nd rounder.  

What I don't get is this.  If Clowney CAN'T sign an extension, what is he holding out for?  He can't get a deal anywhere else so he might as well play things out in HOU, no?

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Depends on what they want and if you can ink him to a reasonable "long term" deal.

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1 hour ago, joewilly12 said:

The most intriguing aspect of a potential Clowney trade is the Jets could use him for a year, then flip him with a tag-and-trade next March, perhaps recouping what they surrendered in the original trade. This would make a trade worth considering if it doesn’t include their 2020 first-round pick (and if they’re willing to gamble with Williams and free agency), but the whole thing seems unrealistic unless Houston holds a fire sale.

 

54 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

"Building around Sam" includes getting to the QB so Sam can get the ball back.  Just sayin'.

true

5 minutes ago, Untouchable said:

The majority of passrushers are inconsistent.

Many of them get sacks in bunches and have 2-3 game stretches where they don’t inspire much awe on the stat sheets.

Let’s be honest, great passrushers pretty much never hit free agency. So unless we hit on someone in the draft or trade for someone like Clowney, we’re going to continue trotting out guys like Copeland and Luvu.

I don’t expect Clowney to ever start posting 16-18 sack campaigns, but he can certainly put pressure on the QB and is strong against the run as well. He can be one of our cornerstone pieces for the next 5 years. That’s good enough for me.

The "TAG & TRADE" mentioned would be the only reason that I would consider it. We have an issue at CB and Williamson getting hurt, hurts... 

Yes Clowney has some injury history but the guy is trying to get paid so he would most likely have one of his best seasons on the field if health.

I'd do it and try to tag and trade/recoup the pick(s) you trade for him if needed .... heck we might get lucky if he does play well.

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Having to draft a DLineman/rush guy after a decade of drafting nothing but dlineman would be so utterly awful.

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I would trust the FO on this one over my opinion. But I don't think we need him. And the price will be high. 

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6 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

Having to draft a DLineman/rush guy after a decade of drafting nothing but dlineman would be so utterly awful.

Agree we need a playmaker #1 WR and right now we could use a great CB. 

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Yea, why draft good players when you can give up draft picks AND record setting contracts?

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Having to draft a DLineman/rush guy after a decade of drafting nothing but dlineman would be so utterly awful.


This has plagued this team as much as finding a good QB. Hopefully they found a good QB!


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I wouldn't trade for him at all!!!! He's not worth losing a bunch of draft picks!!! I rather trade for JJ Watt than for Clowney!!! 

He's too injured prone and JJ Watt is getting most of the double teams not him. He's not the player that will take over a game or be a leader. The Jets need a pass rushing OLB not a DE and you can't convert him to a 3-4 OLB. He only fits in the 4-3 as a DE!!!! 

The Jets need all their draft picks to keep rebuilding.

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13 minutes ago, jeremy2020 said:

Yea, why draft good players when you can give up draft picks AND record setting contracts?

Yes, why acquire a known quantity when you can take bachelor number three in hopes that one day you can give HIM the record setting contract? Im right with you on this.

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8 minutes ago, AL047 said:

I wouldn't trade for him at all!!!! He's not worth losing a bunch of draft picks!!! I rather trade for JJ Watt than for Clowney!!! 

He's too injured prone and JJ Watt is getting most of the double teams not him. He's not the player that will take over a game or be a leader. The Jets need a pass rushing OLB not a DE and you can't convert him to a 3-4 OLB. He only fits in the 4-3 as a DE!!!! 

The Jets need all their draft picks to keep rebuilding.

Huh?

Clowney has been playing OLB for the last few seasons.

And you think that Clowney is injury prone...but J.J. Watt isn’t?

The Jets, barring major injury to someone like Darnold, aren’t going to be picking in the Top 10 next year. Good luck finding a passrusher who can equal Clowney’s production in the latter half of the 1st round, much less after that.  

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53 minutes ago, BroadwayRay said:

He was also manhandled by Quentin Nelson in the playoffs, btw. 

Clowney is just a name. Fans love names. In reality, he's injury prone and not exactly the type of all-in player that Joe Douglas reportedly looks for. I don't see a trade happening, thank God, and it shouldn't.

He is the next Sheldon or MO once he gets paid. 

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7 minutes ago, Untouchable said:

The Jets, barring major injury to someone like Darnold, aren’t going to be picking in the Top 10 next year. Good luck finding a passrusher who can equal Clowney’s production in the latter half of the 1st round, much less after that.  

2 of the top 4 guys who led the league in sacks last year were not 1st round picks.

And the 2 that were 1st round picks were not top 10 picks.

Pass rushers can be found anywhere in the draft.

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Just now, Joe W. Namath said:

2 of the top 4 guys who led the league in sacks last year were not 1st round picks.

And the 2 that were 1st round picks were not top 10 picks.

Pass rushers can be found anywhere in the draft.

Yet we never seem to find them.

Go figure 

Trade for Clowney  

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Mike Maccagnan would have traded for Clowney.

 

thats all you need to know ...

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I was joking.  If he is available, you pay the man. 

A legit pass-rusher (8-10 sacks) can conceal our deficiencies in the secondary and takes us to the next level.  Ask GW if he liked having Myles Garrett on his DL. 

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14 minutes ago, southparkcpa said:

He is the next Sheldon or MO once he gets paid. 

He was paid as soon as we was drafted #1 overall.

I wouldn’t worry about that with Clowney. He just hasn’t lived up to the monstrous expectations that were heaped upon him before he even came into the league. You had people comparing him to dudes like Lawrence Taylor and Reggie White. Saying that he was to passrushers what Andrew Luck was to the QB position.

Obviously he hasn’t lived up to that billing (neither has Luck) but he’s still a damn good player. 3 time pro-bowler who is still only 26 and just starting to enter his prime.

I’d absolutely take him on this team.

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28 minutes ago, Ken Shroy said:

Message boards in 1984? Were they like a bunch of post -it notes in the mens rooms of Miami bars?

Sharpies. But the message got through. You never know who's going to be taking a dump at the right time.

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