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1 hour ago, Jetster said:

No matter who our GM was the bottom line was every draft has been a failure because we haven't had a young competent QB since the 80s in Obrien. Unfortunately we also had Dan Marino & Jim Kelly in this division & then morphed into Drew Bledsoe who though streaky was still better than what we had & of course the last 18 years since when Mo Lewis ushered in the Tom Brady decades. 

Every possible asset should have been used to obtain a QB. Remember when we heard the rumors Jets were interested in Wentz? Should have just pulled a Ditka & gave up the whole draft for him. There isn't 1 transcendent player on this Jets team EXCEPT SAM DARNOLD. 

While everyone except a few Jet fans here were saying 6 was too early for Mahomes, that thinking was positively ridiculous for a team that hasn't had a franchise QB since Joe Namath. The guy had SICK abilities. I still can't believe the Giants passed on Darnold. Have you watched Eli over the last 2 years? Everything changed for the NY Jets when Goodell announced the NY football Giants select Sequan Barkley. It's ushered in a new decade, a new offensive coach with head coaching experience a defensive coach with head coaching experience, a GM highly respected in NFL circles, a 5 time pro bowler decided to give it another go with the Jets, and I guarantee you guys on the bubble of other organizations are hoping they get a chance to come to this Jet team. There's a great vibe in Florham Park & its resonated throughout the league & the sports media. 

Chris Johnson simply has to be included when we think of the changing atmosphere for the Jets. I'll be the first to say that I was scratching my head with many of the ways he's handled things over the past two years, but here we are. If Gase, Sam and Douglas are anywhere near as good as we are thinking they might be, Chris has done an incredible job.  It's amazing what happens when an owner is actually involved. 

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Why trade for Clowney? We have Jachai Polite. 

Larz
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Build around Sam  clowney will cost draft picks and cap space  nah

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He was also manhandled by Quentin Nelson in the playoffs, btw.  Clowney is just a name. Fans love names. In reality, he's injury prone and not exactly the type of all-in player that Joe Douglas r

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6 hours ago, Jetster said:

No matter who our GM was the bottom line was every draft has been a failure because we haven't had a young competent QB since the 80s in Obrien. Unfortunately we also had Dan Marino & Jim Kelly in this division & then morphed into Drew Bledsoe who though streaky was still better than what we had & of course the last 18 years since when Mo Lewis ushered in the Tom Brady decades. 

Every possible asset should have been used to obtain a QB. Remember when we heard the rumors Jets were interested in Wentz? Should have just pulled a Ditka & gave up the whole draft for him. There isn't 1 transcendent player on this Jets team EXCEPT SAM DARNOLD. 

While everyone except a few Jet fans here were saying 6 was too early for Mahomes, that thinking was positively ridiculous for a team that hasn't had a franchise QB since Joe Namath. The guy had SICK abilities. I still can't believe the Giants passed on Darnold. Have you watched Eli over the last 2 years? Everything changed for the NY Jets when Goodell announced the NY football Giants select Sequan Barkley. It's ushered in a new decade, a new offensive coach with head coaching experience a defensive coach with head coaching experience, a GM highly respected in NFL circles, a 5 time pro bowler decided to give it another go with the Jets, and I guarantee you guys on the bubble of other organizations are hoping they get a chance to come to this Jet team. There's a great vibe in Florham Park & its resonated throughout the league & the sports media. 

Give the man his money!

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17 minutes ago, Philc1 said:

Who needs edge rushers when we have a great secondary oh wAit

I'm with you on this Clowney deal. That's a bad azz front with Leo, QW, Anderson, Clowney, Mosely, Jenkins, Leo & Tru will be gone next year, 2 expensive players. 

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On 8/19/2019 at 7:07 PM, docdhc said:

Jets are probably not one piece away from a championship. That’s why I think Clowny is too expensive especially since he has trouble staying on the field. He’s not as good as Khalil Mack but would probably cost as much in material and would want the same kind of money. If he won’t play for Houston this year without a new deal why would he do it for the Jets?

So because we're not 1 piece away from a championship we shouldnt improve the defense and team?  

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4 hours ago, Jet Nut said:

So because we're not 1 piece away from a championship we shouldnt improve the defense and team?  

Not when it would cost mega money and draft picks when we have many other needs and several core players to pay in the next couple of years. 

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43 minutes ago, docdhc said:

Not when it would cost mega money and draft picks when we have many other needs and several core players to pay in the next couple of years. 

Because the best players don't cost anything and sign to play for free?

He would make the team better.  If he makes them better at a reasonable cost, JD thinks he's worth it, why not, because we're not trying to make the playoffs?

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Can we pay clowney $4 million a year?

not sure how up to date it is but otc has the Jets at $14 million in cap space. 

Teans typically keep $10 million for in season moves to compensate for injuries so the jets don’t really seem to be in a place to do much 

 

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15 hours ago, Larz said:

Can we pay clowney $4 million a year?

not sure how up to date it is but otc has the Jets at $14 million in cap space. 

Teans typically keep $10 million for in season moves to compensate for injuries so the jets don’t really seem to be in a place to do much 

 

Can always redo other contacts on team have a low salary for this year and give signing bonus. Like Leo can be resign to make cape room. Beachum can redo his resign for a extra year or 2 and have low salary this year with bonus. Lots of ways to get cap space. Eagles do it all the time and that’s where Douglas came from

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14 minutes ago, Rolloffjet said:

Another Clowney to jets article 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/thejetpress.com/2019/08/22/new-york-jets-get-jadeveon-clowney/amp/

get it done Joe

Why the New York Jets should go get Jadeveon Clowney

The New York Jets have some needs on defense, and it would be worth paying the price to bring in Jadeveon Clowney.

One of the biggest storylines for the New York Jets so far has been their defense. Injuries have been piling up for the Jets defense since the start of camp. The two most noticeable injuries have been cornerback Trumaine Johnson pulling his hamstring, and linebacker Avery Williamson tearing his ACL against the Falcons in the second preseason game.

Johnson will be able to play this season once he gets healthy, but losing a player like Williamson who is a leader in the locker room for the whole year is a tough blow for the Jets. In addition to these injuries, there are some glaring weaknesses in the secondary and in generating a pass rush from the outside.

An outside pass rush has been a concern for a while now and it would be smart if the Jets can somehow pull off a trade for Houston Texans linebacker Jadeveon Clowney. One of the ways the Jets can try to fix their cornerback problem aside from getting a good cornerback is to beef up there pass rush.

Clowney, 26, was franchised tagged by the Texans back in March. Hoping that he would get a long-term deal with Houston, Clowney has not signed his franchise tender yet and has not reported to training camp. NFL Network insider Ian Rappaport reported on the situation, “From what I understand, the tentative plan is to show up after the third preseason game they play the Cowboys in late August.”

Because Clowney could not get a longterm deal done with the Texans Clowney will have to play on his one year $15.97 million franchise tag.

Why should the Jets trade for him? Clowney is only 26 years old and is in the prime of his career. He is also coming off a Pro Bowl season where he had nine sacks and 21 QB hits. Clowney would be a big upgrade at the linebacker/defensive end positions and would potentially give the Jets a serious pass rush on defense.

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ESPN Jets beat reporter Rich Cimini had this to say about the possible Clowney trade:

“The most intriguing aspect of a potential Clowney trade is the Jets could use him for a year, then flip him with a tag-and-trade next March, perhaps recouping what they surrendered in the original trade. This would make a trade worth considering if it doesn’t include their 2020 first-round pick (and if they’re willing to gamble with Williams and free agency), but the whole thing seems unrealistic unless Houston holds a fire sale.”

A potential trade for Clowney can benefit the Jets big time but if they trade for Clowney the Jets might have to do a few things to accommodate Clowney’s contract.

For starters, Clowney’s tender is worth $15.97 million and the Jets only have $14.6 million in salary-cap space, per OverTheCap.com which means either the Jets will have to renegotiate Clowney’s contract or possibly cut players to free up cap space.

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16 hours ago, Larz said:

Can we pay clowney $4 million a year?

not sure how up to date it is but otc has the Jets at $14 million in cap space. 

Teans typically keep $10 million for in season moves to compensate for injuries so the jets don’t really seem to be in a place to do much 

  

Simple.  Trade Leo.  $14.2M saved right there.  

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22 hours ago, Rolloffjet said:

Another Clowney to jets article 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.hiptoro.com/p/nfl-rumors-new-york-jets-rental-deal-with-texans-for-jadeveon-clowney-in-the-works/amp/

? Please go get him joe

Those trade proposals in the article look good to me. Get Clowney and a corner and next thing you know...who knows.

Leo straight up for Clowney seems fair.

I don’t know much about Douglas but sounds like he can play. Get’em.

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9 hours ago, joewilly12 said:

Why the New York Jets should go get Jadeveon Clowney

The New York Jets have some needs on defense, and it would be worth paying the price to bring in Jadeveon Clowney.

One of the biggest storylines for the New York Jets so far has been their defense. Injuries have been piling up for the Jets defense since the start of camp. The two most noticeable injuries have been cornerback Trumaine Johnson pulling his hamstring, and linebacker Avery Williamson tearing his ACL against the Falcons in the second preseason game.

Johnson will be able to play this season once he gets healthy, but losing a player like Williamson who is a leader in the locker room for the whole year is a tough blow for the Jets. In addition to these injuries, there are some glaring weaknesses in the secondary and in generating a pass rush from the outside.

An outside pass rush has been a concern for a while now and it would be smart if the Jets can somehow pull off a trade for Houston Texans linebacker Jadeveon Clowney. One of the ways the Jets can try to fix their cornerback problem aside from getting a good cornerback is to beef up there pass rush.

Clowney, 26, was franchised tagged by the Texans back in March. Hoping that he would get a long-term deal with Houston, Clowney has not signed his franchise tender yet and has not reported to training camp. NFL Network insider Ian Rappaport reported on the situation, “From what I understand, the tentative plan is to show up after the third preseason game they play the Cowboys in late August.”

Because Clowney could not get a longterm deal done with the Texans Clowney will have to play on his one year $15.97 million franchise tag.

Why should the Jets trade for him? Clowney is only 26 years old and is in the prime of his career. He is also coming off a Pro Bowl season where he had nine sacks and 21 QB hits. Clowney would be a big upgrade at the linebacker/defensive end positions and would potentially give the Jets a serious pass rush on defense.

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ESPN Jets beat reporter Rich Cimini had this to say about the possible Clowney trade:

“The most intriguing aspect of a potential Clowney trade is the Jets could use him for a year, then flip him with a tag-and-trade next March, perhaps recouping what they surrendered in the original trade. This would make a trade worth considering if it doesn’t include their 2020 first-round pick (and if they’re willing to gamble with Williams and free agency), but the whole thing seems unrealistic unless Houston holds a fire sale.”

A potential trade for Clowney can benefit the Jets big time but if they trade for Clowney the Jets might have to do a few things to accommodate Clowney’s contract.

For starters, Clowney’s tender is worth $15.97 million and the Jets only have $14.6 million in salary-cap space, per OverTheCap.com which means either the Jets will have to renegotiate Clowney’s contract or possibly cut players to free up cap space.

The jets would have to cut or restructure 1, maybe 2 JAGs on the 53 man roster to create the additional $1.3 mil to fit Clowney’s tender under the cap

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10 hours ago, Rolloffjet said:

Can always redo other contacts on team have a low salary for this year and give signing bonus. Like Leo can be resign to make cape room. Beachum can redo his resign for a extra year or 2 and have low salary this year with bonus. Lots of ways to get cap space. Eagles do it all the time and that’s where Douglas came from

Plus Clowney’s bonus if he got one from us this year the cap hit can be spread out over several years

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https://www.google.com/amp/s/clutchpoints.com/texans-news-jadeveon-clowney-could-be-traded-for-a-left-tackle-soon/amp/

they say Clowney May get traded for a tackle.

would you trade Beachum who will be a free agent next year and a late round pick for him and let Edoga start at left tackle since he looked good. I would. Would even give up a 2nd and Beachum for him. Thoughts?

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On 8/23/2019 at 2:17 PM, Rolloffjet said:

Can always redo other contacts on team have a low salary for this year and give signing bonus. Like Leo can be resign to make cape room. Beachum can redo his resign for a extra year or 2 and have low salary this year with bonus. Lots of ways to get cap space. Eagles do it all the time and that’s where Douglas came from

Sure but once the league year starts you have to stay under the cap, right?  Any rumors of the Jets doing this?

He’s going to want a monster deal. The Jets need to clear probably $10 million?

it could happen of course but JD knew clowney was available when he gave kalil $8 million so it doesn’t seem to be his priority 

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Sure but once the league year starts you have to stay under the cap, right?  Any rumors of the Jets doing this?

He’s going to want a monster deal. The Jets need to clear probably $10 million?

it could happen of course but JD knew clowney was available when he gave kalil $8 million so it doesn’t seem to be his priority 

He’s on the tag so I don’t think they have to clear 10 million his tag is like 16 million but would have to sign next year to long term contact. And we should have enough money next year for that

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39 minutes ago, Rolloffjet said:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/clutchpoints.com/texans-news-jadeveon-clowney-could-be-traded-for-a-left-tackle-soon/amp/

they say Clowney May get traded for a tackle.

would you trade Beachum who will be a free agent next year and a late round pick for him and let Edoga start at left tackle since he looked good. I would. Would even give up a 2nd and Beachum for him. Thoughts?

No chance at all, no way.  Unless trent williams is coming here it would be insane to hand LT to a rookie.

Even though I like the idea of going after clowney we can do nothing that weakens the tools for our franchise qb.

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1 minute ago, Rolloffjet said:

He’s on the tag so I don’t think they have to clear 10 million his tag is like 16 million but would have to sign next year to long term contact. And we should have enough money next year for that

You’re right, they would need to clear $12 million 

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On 8/23/2019 at 3:00 PM, Jetsfan80 said:

Simple.  Trade Leo.  $14.2M saved right there.  

Nobody wants leo.  Hes a total JAG.

Joe D and Gase are not trading for an oft injured player who wants big money.  Those days are over for us.  We are actually going to make good decisions moving forward.

This year is about setting a new tone for this team and doing business the right way.  We are not competing for a super bowl this year.  Giving big money to a guy a well run team(Texans) want no part of is not the Jets MO anymore.

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