Jetsfan80 Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001041302/article/2016-nfl-draft-revisited-grades-for-firstrounders-three-years-in 2016 NFL Draft revisited: Grades for first-rounders three years in Print By Lance Zierlein NFL Media draft analyst Published: Aug. 14, 2019 at 02:58 p.m. Updated: Aug. 21, 2019 at 09:06 a.m. 20 Darron Lee - OLB Grade: D+ | School: Ohio State After a disappointing rookie season and mediocre second season to begin his career with theJets, Lee was putting together a fairly solid campaign in Year 3, but he missed the last four games of the season while serving a suspension for violating the NFL's Policy and Program for Substances of Abuse. This offseason, Adam Gase's first move as interim general manager was to ship Lee out to the Chiefs in exchange for just a sixth-round pick. This pick was a miss. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001043069/article/2017-nfl-draft-revisited-grades-for-firstrounders-two-years-in 2017 NFL Draft revisited: Grades for first-rounders two years in By Ali Bhanpuri Deputy Editor Published: Aug. 21, 2019 at 08:56 a.m. Updated: Aug. 21, 2019 at 11:04 a.m. Jamal Adams - S Grade: A+ | School: LSU The Jets drafted a stud when Adams fell to them at No. 6. He not only became an instant leader for the franchise -- infusing a level of toughness, accountability and superstar talent the team needed -- but he also earned the respect of his peers, as his place (No. 37) on the " Top 100 Players of 2019" demonstrates. The Pro Bowler ranked first among all safeties in snaps (1,119), defensive stops (44), pressures (22), sacks (4), hurries (13) and forced fumbles (3) last season, according to PFF. He's not only an incredible player, but a great ambassador for the organization. What more could you ask for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jetstream23 Posted August 21, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted August 21, 2019 Quote 2016 and 2017 1st rounds revisited (NFL.com): Darron Lee gets a D+, Jamal Adams gets A+ Sounds like my high school report card. I won't tell you which one was Algebra and which was PE. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 The Prez with that A+ YO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 Don't let any of the Adams Hating DBags see this thread. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted August 21, 2019 Author Share Posted August 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Thai Jet said: Don't let any of the Adams Hating DBags see this thread. You mean like the one who started the thread? lol. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 I would give Lee a C or C+ if you compare to how the rest of the league did. Most GMs were completely outsmarted. That draft was terrible. The right answer there was basically one of the much better players picked in the second round (where Mac picked Hack). I think if Douglas was backed a corner and drafted Lee for a team coached by Gase and Williams, Lee would have done better starting out than he did molded by Bowles and Kacy. But I am glad Lee is not a Jet. I am just trying to be slightly more forgiving given how bad that draft was. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 Top of 2016 was loaded. Not one bust in the top 9. The bottom half of the 1st round... wow. Lot of crap in there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Frog Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 MY President. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 Meanwhile, 2nd through 7th come in at F- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Frog Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 What's funny is the 20-20 hindsight guys need to dip into the second round to figure out the OBVIOUS choice of who we should have taken rather than Lee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 When we actually have a good defense after a decade of putting almost all resources into it I'll start giving people A pluses. For all the Adams love he still does not play a premium position on defense and he will be a good vocal player but not a great one unless he starts generating turnovers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 5 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001041302/article/2016-nfl-draft-revisited-grades-for-firstrounders-three-years-in 2016 NFL Draft revisited: Grades for first-rounders three years in Print By Lance Zierlein NFL Media draft analyst Published: Aug. 14, 2019 at 02:58 p.m. Updated: Aug. 21, 2019 at 09:06 a.m. 20 Darron Lee - OLB Grade: D+ | School: Ohio State After a disappointing rookie season and mediocre second season to begin his career with theJets, Lee was putting together a fairly solid campaign in Year 3, but he missed the last four games of the season while serving a suspension for violating the NFL's Policy and Program for Substances of Abuse. This offseason, Adam Gase's first move as interim general manager was to ship Lee out to the Chiefs in exchange for just a sixth-round pick. This pick was a miss. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001043069/article/2017-nfl-draft-revisited-grades-for-firstrounders-two-years-in 2017 NFL Draft revisited: Grades for first-rounders two years in By Ali Bhanpuri Deputy Editor Published: Aug. 21, 2019 at 08:56 a.m. Updated: Aug. 21, 2019 at 11:04 a.m. Jamal Adams - S Grade: A+ | School: LSU The Pro Bowler ranked first among all safeties in snaps (1,119), defensive stops (44), pressures (22), sacks (4), hurries (13) and forced fumbles (3) last season, according to PFF. That's impressive stuff. It's getting harder for the Adam's haters to say he's not a top, if not the top safety in the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 Just now, FidelioJet said: That's impressive stuff. It's getting harder for the Adam's haters to say he's not a top, if not the top safety in the game. I guess I am an Adams "hater." I am not sure why a pro bowl safety that has the most snaps and gets zero interceptions should not be at or near the top in the other categories. That being said, he certainly seemed to be flying around in the Falcons game. It was great to see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 4 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said: I guess I am an Adams "hater." I am not sure why a pro bowl safety that has the most snaps and gets zero interceptions should not be at or near the top in the other categories. That being said, he certainly seemed to be flying around in the Falcons game. It was great to see. So, your theory is that leading the league in defensive stops (44), pressures (22), sacks (4), hurries (13) and forced fumbles (3) is not impressive because he's also on the field the most? You really do have to dislike the guy to come to a conclusion like that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: So, your theory is that leading the league in defensive stops (44), pressures (22), sacks (4), hurries (13) and forced fumbles (3) is not impressive because he's also on the field the most? You really do have to dislike the guy to come to a conclusion like that. Adams is a great player. We will want him to be a game changer-like Berry, Earl Thomas, Sean Taylor, Troy Polamalu, Ed Reed, Bob Sanders to justify where he was picked and how much he will be paid. Adams may justify it. But when you don't have a QB you take a high potential franchise QB at 6. The Jets drafting Adams looks now fine because Gettleman gagged and they have Darnold. But if they ended up with Rosen and perhaps even Josh Allen if he ends up like I think he will, drafting Adams would have been a grave error. But now, smart thinking Mac! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 4 minutes ago, varjet said: Adams is a great player. We will want him to be a game changer-like Berry, Earl Thomas, Sean Taylor, Troy Polamalu, Ed Reed, Bob Sanders to justify where he was picked and how much he will be paid. Adams may justify it. But when you don't have a QB you take a high potential franchise QB at 6. The Jets drafting Adams looks now fine because Gettleman gagged and they have Darnold. But if they ended up with Rosen and perhaps even Josh Allen if he ends up like I think he will, drafting Adams would have been a grave error. But now, smart thinking Mac! I hear you, but at this point we need to get over the fact that we passed on Mahomes. It's not really the point anymore. It's, is Adams a top level, impact player?. The answer to that question is clearly yes - only the most jaded Jet fans see it otherwise. I didn't love the pick - but it's time to get over and recognize what we have and be happy about it. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 28 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: So, your theory is that leading the league in defensive stops (44), pressures (22), sacks (4), hurries (13) and forced fumbles (3) is not impressive because he's also on the field the most? You really do have to dislike the guy to come to a conclusion like that. You have to dislike someone to realize that if one of the best players has the most opportunities he should have more stats. Especially considering his lack of time in centerfield, as evidenced by his interception numbers. I don't actually dislike him. I did not like the pick, but I think he has been as good as I expected and looks like he might be even better than that. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 6 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said: The Jets drafted a stud when Adams fell to them at No. 6. He not only became an instant leader for the franchise -- infusing a level of toughness, accountability and superstar talent the team needed -- but he also earned the respect of his peers, as his place (No. 37) on the " Top 100 Players of 2019" demonstrates. The Pro Bowler ranked first among all safeties in snaps (1,119), defensive stops (44), pressures (22), sacks (4), hurries (13) and forced fumbles (3) last season, according to PFF. He's not only an incredible player, but a great ambassador for the organization. What more could you ask for? Bro, she has a great personality. Face is kinda jacked up, but she’s really cool. Trust me 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 1 hour ago, FidelioJet said: I hear you, but at this point we need to get over the fact that we passed on Mahomes. It's not really the point anymore. It's, is Adams a top level, impact player?. The answer to that question is clearly yes - only the most jaded Jet fans see it otherwise. I didn't love the pick - but it's time to get over and recognize what we have and be happy about it. I am over it. It came out fine, by accident, but you take your luck when it comes. Mac was fired and is not coming back. It’s all good with respect to Adams and Darnold. Douglas just has to figure out how to get to the Super Bowl in the next 2 years before Darnold takes all the cap space. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 1 hour ago, T0mShane said: Bro, she has a great personality. Face is kinda jacked up, but she’s really cool. Trust me JA = “Butter pics” lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 i'm not so sure about given lee such a low grade. he started and he did some good things. he was overdrafted by at least a round given his performance and he had those off field issues to deal with. maybe c+ is closer to where he should be and we'll see pretty quickly if anthony turns out to be a better player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 So does this mean that the hyenas have officially moved on to polite? ?? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted August 22, 2019 Author Share Posted August 22, 2019 That's impressive stuff. It's getting harder for the Adam's haters to say he's not a top, if not the top safety in the game.Never disputed him being a top safety. Problem is that being a top safety who doesn’t create turnovers has minimal positive impact on the game. Hence our 9-23 record since Adams was drafted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 8 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said: You mean like the one who started the thread? lol. I've never considered you a Adams hating Dbag 80. You know football too well unlike the hatred of irrational others. Adams may not have been your first choice at #6 that year but you realize how good Adams is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrcoops Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 And to think, Macc tried to trade up in the 2016 draft to draft Laremy Tunsil. He actually had an agreement in place, but didn't want to give up his 2nd rounder in the deal. So, instead of a franchise cornerstone LT, we ended up with Darron Lee and Christian Hackenberg. Awesome. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio State NY Jets fan Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 4 hours ago, mrcoops said: And to think, Macc tried to trade up in the 2016 draft to draft Laremy Tunsil. He actually had an agreement in place, but didn't want to give up his 2nd rounder in the deal. So, instead of a franchise cornerstone LT, we ended up with Darron Lee and Christian Hackenberg. Awesome. and he saved that 3rd rounder in the almost trade up for Wentz - sometimes price does not matter, both the Lee and Adams picks should have been QB's - that matters 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 Toughness AND accountability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nj meadowlands Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 15 hours ago, T0mShane said: Bro, she has a great personality. Face is kinda jacked up, but she’s really cool. Trust me Man, this was a really really tough article for you... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 6 minutes ago, nj meadowlands said: Man, this was a really really tough article for you... Extenuating personal circumstances for a sparq god. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYallDay Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 When we actually have a good defense after a decade of putting almost all resources into it I'll start giving people A pluses. For all the Adams love he still does not play a premium position on defense and he will be a good vocal player but not a great one unless he starts generating turnovers.I’m a huge Adams fan (on and off the field and his passion for green and white) and he has I believe 15 FF in my madden franchise. The turnovers are coming this year! (Tongue and cheek about the FFs but I believe Adams will be polamolu (bad speller) esque starting this year)Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 30 minutes ago, NYallDay said: I’m a huge Adams fan (on and off the field and his passion for green and white) and he has I believe 15 FF in my madden franchise. The turnovers are coming this year! (Tongue and cheek about the FFs but I believe Adams will be polamolu (bad speller) esque starting this year) Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Yeah this is the thing he is being treated as palamolou/reed/Sean Taylor etc etc before he every becomes that much of an impact player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYallDay Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 Yeah this is the thing he is being treated as palamolou/reed/Sean Taylor etc etc before he every becomes that much of an impact player.Well he surely flashes the potential to be one of them. His play, attitude towards the game and the fans and the team really show something special. Not saying you, but it amazes me that people can’t be happy and proud that this guy is on our teamSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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