Jetster Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 4 hours ago, JiF said: League MVP. lmfao Why do you do this to yourself? I read his sh*t & think, and people call me a homer? lol. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 44 minutes ago, rammagen said: I found this So what do I hear? I heard a surprising number of veterans, including SURPRISING ones like Frank Gore, Kenny Stills, and especially Cameron Wake, all rose up and disavowed Gase privately. Wake and Stills directly to Steve Ross. Kenyan Drake wanted a trade if Gase remained. — Chris Kouffman (@ckparrot) December 31, 2018 Key word: VETERANS. Many head coaches, like Bowles as an example give veterans preferential treatment. They are guaranteed their spots, they don't need to work as hard, and often times their voice is the only player voice to the head coach. Gase is not that guy so that doesn't surprise me much. Gase definitely runs a meritocracy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomebodytoAnybody47 Posted August 26, 2019 Author Share Posted August 26, 2019 2 hours ago, David Harris said: After watching the Saints game I'm fairly certain that our starting outside wide receivers are not good enough. They’re fine. Everyone relax lol. As long as the OL can give Darnold time, we’ll be good. Darnold said this was the first game(after seeing vanilla defenses first two preseason games) they actually saw the defense throw things at them. So it was a good practice to look back on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rammagen Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 23 minutes ago, johnnysd said: Key word: VETERANS. Many head coaches, like Bowles as an example give veterans preferential treatment. They are guaranteed their spots, they don't need to work as hard, and often times their voice is the only player voice to the head coach. Gase is not that guy so that doesn't surprise me much. Gase definitely runs a meritocracy. well the tune rather quickly for stills as the reason he gave for signing again in Miami was Gase. I posted this to say there could be issues with Stills and Gase. as far as Stills being released Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost420 Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 22 minutes ago, Samtorobby47 said: They’re fine. Everyone relax lol. As long as the OL can give Darnold time, we’ll be good. Darnold said this was the first game(after seeing vanilla defenses first two preseason games) they actually saw the defense throw things at them. So it was a good practice to look back on. We need a real #1 opposite Anderson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post nycdan Posted August 26, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted August 26, 2019 9 minutes ago, Ghost420 said: We need a real #1 opposite Anderson. No. We don't. The 2018 Patriots didn't have a 1,000 yard WR. Neither did the 2017 Eagles. In fact, Robby Anderson had more yards receiving than anyone on the Eagles that year. The 2018 Rams had 2 1,200 yard WRs who would not be called a true #1 by anyone. And they finished outside of the top-10 in the league as it was for receiving yards. DeAndre Hopkins and Mike Evans are 2 of the 5 best WRs in the league and their teams have won a combined 1 playoff game in the last 3 years. Now that top-tier WRs are costing around $20MM/year, they are a luxury most teams can't afford, and winning teams simply do not need. Give me a great QB, and good talent around him, and you can win with that. We have more than enough talent next to and behind same. it's the five guys in front of him that are going to determine our success this season. 8 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolloffjet Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 Damn how long of brewing before it’s done. Where the hell are the trades 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost420 Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 15 minutes ago, nycdan said: No. We don't. The 2018 Patriots didn't have a 1,000 yard WR. Neither did the 2017 Eagles. In fact, Robby Anderson had more yards receiving than anyone on the Eagles that year. The 2018 Rams had 2 1,200 yard WRs who would not be called a true #1 by anyone. And they finished outside of the top-10 in the league as it was for receiving yards. DeAndre Hopkins and Mike Evans are 2 of the 5 best WRs in the league and their teams have won a combined 1 playoff game in the last 3 years. Now that top-tier WRs are costing around $20MM/year, they are a luxury most teams can't afford, and winning teams simply do not need. Give me a great QB, and good talent around him, and you can win with that. We have more than enough talent next to and behind same. it's the five guys in front of him that are going to determine our success this season. The Patriots have bill belicheck and tom brady 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREENBEAN Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 Julio would make this Offense elite overnight . Hes the best WR in football and has been for years, of course he never gets the credit the loudmouth Idiots get but Julio is the best. That being said I dont think hes going to be the guy they are talking aboutNever in a million years would that happen. Why on earth would they let arguably the best WR in football go when Ryan is nearing the twilight? Unless it’s blow it up for a young QV time I can’t see it. This is a pipe dream of epic proportions. That said I’d give up a 2nd for him Lol Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 The way this team is constructed, I would rather get an upgrade at any OLine position other than LG than an upgrade at WR. I think, especially in light of the Andrew Luck storyline, that our long term success is going to swing on our ability to field a top-10 OLine, not add a great WR who Sam will rarely have time to find from the pocket. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, GREENBEAN said: Never in a million years would that happen. Why on earth would they let arguably the best WR in football go when Ryan is nearing the twilight? Unless it’s blow it up for a young QV time I can’t see it. This is a pipe dream of epic proportions. That said I’d give up a 2nd for him Lol Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Atlanta in win-now mode. Their defense was decimated last year. I think that team makes NFC championship game (against NO). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 31 minutes ago, GREENBEAN said: Never in a million years would that happen. Why on earth would they let arguably the best WR in football go when Ryan is nearing the twilight? Unless it’s blow it up for a young QV time I can’t see it. This is a pipe dream of epic proportions. That said I’d give up a 2nd for him Lol Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app And the fact that dan quinn is getting fired if they dont win this year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 58 minutes ago, GREENBEAN said: Never in a million years would that happen. Why on earth would they let arguably the best WR in football go when Ryan is nearing the twilight? Unless it’s blow it up for a young QV time I can’t see it. This is a pipe dream of epic proportions. That said I’d give up a 2nd for him Lol Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app My post says I don't think Julio is going to be the guy they are talking about. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREENBEAN Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 54 minutes ago, Smashmouth said: My post says I don't think Julio is going to be the guy they are talking about. Yeah I was actually seconding and expanding on your point. Did it come across like I was disagreeing? I wasn't at all. My bad. Writing it quickly between bench sets of 45 lbs at the gym. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genot Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 It's A.J Green. Not based on anything but an educated guess. Or maybe not so educated. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, genot said: It's A.J Green. Not based on anything but an educated guess. Or maybe not so educated. Hate to say it but Green is probably 3 years removed from being a star. Injuries have derailed him quite a bit. Not quite as bad as Eifert but enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElBarrioJets Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 Flip Nathan Shepherd for a backup CB or OLB. Depth for depth trades make too much sense. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElBarrioJets Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 Flip Nathan Shepherd for a backup CB or OLB. Depth for depth trades make too much sense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 3 minutes ago, ElBarrioJets said: Flip Nathan Shepherd for a backup CB or OLB. Depth for depth trades make too much sense. Who wants him? 3 minutes ago, ElBarrioJets said: Flip Nathan Shepherd for a backup CB or OLB. Depth for depth trades make too much sense. Who wants him? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genot Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 48 minutes ago, nycdan said: Hate to say it but Green is probably 3 years removed from being a star. Injuries have derailed him quite a bit. Not quite as bad as Eifert but enough. I agree. He still can help a team who feels they have chance to make the playoffs and advance, if he's healthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobR Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 On 8/24/2019 at 10:39 AM, Raideraholic said: Throw in Te Darren Waller 6’6 255 4.46 . Interesting stat He is one of only two TEs to hit 20 mph more than once last year. George Kittle did it three times in 880 plays, Waller did it twice in 41 plays. The kid is a freak. ( play fantasy - take him, and thank me later.) Te’s Foster Moreau , and D Carrier provide another option( although no ones close to Waller as a receiver. Thee Darren Waller. You mean the guy that has 18 receptions for a whopping 178 yards over the last three years. I can't believe some people are sleeping on him. Not unlike Arden key who you think is getting 10+ sacks this year after his great rookie campaign were he had ONE. Great analysis as usual raider90210. 1 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYallDay Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 Who wants him? In madden, he was a key part of a trade for Grady jarretSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genot Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 21 minutes ago, RobR said: Thee Darren Waller. You mean the guy that has 18 receptions for a whopping 178 yards over the last three years. I can't believe some people are sleeping on him. Not unlike Arden key who you think is getting 10+ sacks this year after his great rookie campaign were he had ONE. Great analysis as usual raider90210. I'm glad there are good posters willing to humor him, and respond to him. Do you feed the homeless on the weekends? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SR24 Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 I’ve been refreshing my twitter feed non stop lol hopefully we can add a good player at cb or edge 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyJersey Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 5 hours ago, genot said: It's A.J Green. Not based on anything but an educated guess. Or maybe not so educated. I agree. If he wasnt dinged up he would have been traded. For now, Bengals best bet is to hold onto him, let him show he is healthy, and get more for him if a contener's top wr gets hurt. If Jaguars are rockin and rollin w/ Foles near the trade deadline, Green would be an amazing fit there, and they should have enough cap space to fit him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyJersey Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 5 hours ago, nycdan said: Hate to say it but Green is probably 3 years removed from being a star. Injuries have derailed him quite a bit. Not quite as bad as Eifert but enough. Silly talk. He had 46 catches for 694 and 6 tds in 9 games last year. Hamstring and toe injuries caused him to miss games in recent years, nothing like shredded knee ligaments that would permanently diminish him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heymangold Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 15 hours ago, nycdan said: No. We don't. The 2018 Patriots didn't have a 1,000 yard WR. Neither did the 2017 Eagles. In fact, Robby Anderson had more yards receiving than anyone on the Eagles that year. The 2018 Rams had 2 1,200 yard WRs who would not be called a true #1 by anyone. And they finished outside of the top-10 in the league as it was for receiving yards. DeAndre Hopkins and Mike Evans are 2 of the 5 best WRs in the league and their teams have won a combined 1 playoff game in the last 3 years. Now that top-tier WRs are costing around $20MM/year, they are a luxury most teams can't afford, and winning teams simply do not need. Give me a great QB, and good talent around him, and you can win with that. We have more than enough talent next to and behind same. it's the five guys in front of him that are going to determine our success this season. Julian Edelman is 1000x better then any WR on this roster - he's a #1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 12 hours ago, joewilly12 said: Who wants him? Who wants him? Houston? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 6 hours ago, DirtyJersey said: Silly talk. He had 46 catches for 694 and 6 tds in 9 games last year. Hamstring and toe injuries caused him to miss games in recent years, nothing like shredded knee ligaments that would permanently diminish him. If Green plays 8 games this season that’s an accomplishment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 55 minutes ago, heymangold said: Julian Edelman is 1000x better then any WR on this roster - he's a #1. No. He's really not. Two seasons over 1,000 yards and he gets that by compiling. Here's a quick stat. Jamison Crowder, who plays the same slot position as Edelman, has a higher Y/R and Catch % than Edelman. It's just that Brady throws to Edelman a lot more than anyone threw to Crowder these last 5 years because they never had a stud on the outside. Don't think for a second that Edelman is anywhere in the same area code as the top-10 WRs in terms of talent. And I would argue, but this is only opinion so certainly debatable, that Robby and Crowder are both as or more physically talented and would put up bigger numbers in that system if they flipped places with Edelman. He's a good player who is a product of the system more than anyone else in the league. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 36 minutes ago, Philc1 said: If Green plays 8 games this season that’s an accomplishment That's a big part of it. If he was on the field for 16 games, he'd certainly be a top-10 guy but he's played 10 or less games 2 of the last 3 years. Also just to note, his catch % is pretty pedestrian. 59% last year and 52.4% the year before. When you're the only option and you get thrown the ball 150 times, you are going to get some numbers. That's the thing I'm really hoping to see Robby improve this year that can elevate him to the next level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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UntouchableCrew Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 On 8/24/2019 at 12:39 PM, Raideraholic said: I think he has a chance to be the league MVP this year. The talent they put around this year is ridiculous. A top five offense line. Blazing speed everywhere on offense .( never played with this much talent. Let’s see #1 Wr Antonio Brown and #2 . Tyrell Williams Those are automatic, and now it’s what they want to do. Can bring J.J. Nelson in ( makes R Anderson look slow) Play him outside , with A Brown in the slot. One of the three get single coverage , and Carr going deep. Carr is one of the best deep passers in the game. They have Hunter Renfrow when they need the big first down catch . ( Third and Renfrow) Throw in Te Darren Waller 6’6 255 4.46 . Interesting stat He is one of only two TEs to hit 20 mph more than once last year. George Kittle did it three times in 880 plays, Waller did it twice in 41 plays. The kid is a freak. ( play fantasy - take him, and thank me later.) Te’s Foster Moreau , and D Carrier provide another option( although no ones close to Waller as a receiver. Three rb’s who can run , and catch with the best of them. Josh Jacobs, Jalen Richard and DeAndre Washington ( have to see if he makes team) fb Alec Ingold -another guy who very good coming out of the backfield. Best Fb in college football last year. This is bringing back flashbacks of Marcel Reese, the most explosive fullback in the history of the NFL. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Stonehands Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 20 hours ago, ElBarrioJets said: Flip Nathan Shepherd for a backup CB or OLB. Depth for depth trades make too much sense. People can just wait and pick him or a comparable Jet defensive lineman off waivers on Monday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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