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Who Stays, Who Goes? Projecting the Jets 53 man Roster


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Eric Tomlinson

With just one more preseason game remaining which will consist largely of players who will get their walking papers in the coming days, it’s time to take a stab at which players will make Gang Green’s final 53-man roster before the season kicks off on September 9th.

Quarterbacks (2): Sam Darnold, Trevor Siemian

Luke Falk becomes a practice squad candidate while Davis Webb is looking for work.

Running Backs (4): Le’Veon Bell, Ty Montgomery, Bilal Powell, Trenton Cannon

Eli McGuire gets bumped by the return of Bilal Powell and Cannon edges him out for a roster spot due to his outstanding special teams coverage and potential as an explosive situational player.  Valentine Holmes lands on the practice squad.

Wide Receivers (7): Robby Anderson, Quincy Enunwa, Jamison Crowder, Deontay Burnett, Josh Bellamy, Charone Peake, Greg Dortch

Bellamy did little in the preseason but makes it as a Gase favorite.  Charone Peake barely hangs on for another season (for now).

Tight End (3): Ryan Griffin, Eric Tomlinson, Trevon Wesco

Chris Herndon is suspended for the first four games of the season so Daniel Brown is the odd man out.  Wesco has shown enough as a blocker that it could bump Eric Tomlinson when Herndon returns.

Offensive Line (9): Kelvin Beachum, Kelechi Osemele, Ryan Kalil, Brian Winters, Brandon Shell, Tom Compton, Jonotthan Harrison, Chuma Edoga, Alex Lewis

Brent Qvale’s injury kept him on the shelf and keeps him off the roster as the new regime didn’t get an extended look at him.  Roster hopeful Ben Braden doesn’t hang around after Joe Douglas traded for Alex Lewis.

Defensive Line (6): Henry Anderson, Quinnen Williams, Leonard Williams, Steve McLendon, Foley Fatukasi, Bronson Kaufusi.

Nathan Shepherd loses his roster spot while the much improved Folorunso Fatukasi makes the 53.  In our view, Kyle Phillips is another practice squad candidate.

Linebackers (8): Jordan Jenkins, Neville Hewitt, CJ Mosley, Frankie Luvu, Tarell Basham, Jachai Polite, Blake Cashman, Anthony Wint

Safety (4): Jamal Adams, Marcus Maye, Rotez Miles, Derrick Kindred

Adams and Maye look to become what so many had hoped when they were drafted a few seasons ago and Miles looks for an expanded role in Gregg Williams’ defense.  Kindred’s familiarity with Williams helps him hang around and bump Doug Middleton.

Cornerback (7): Trumaine Johnson, Darryl Roberts, Brian Poole, Marcus Cooper, Alex Brown, Parry Nickerson, Kyron Brown

Some of these guys only stick because the position is littered with question marks.  Waiver wire moves (and possibly trades) will mean some changes will be made in a hurry.

Spcialists (3): Taylor Bertolet, Lac Edwards, Thomas Hennessey

Bertolet is a place holder while the Jets wait for another kicker to shake looks.  Keep an eye on veteran Dan Bailey.

As we already said, some of these names will change in the hours and days after teams finalize their 53, so keep your eyes peeled.

 

 

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-I think Burgess or even Langi stays over Wint, I think McLellan stays on as a vet special teamer over Peake and the Jets carry 6 WRs, 9LBs. 9 LBs might sound like a lot but if the Jets do intend to play a lot of nickel and 3-4 they will need guys that can do different things. The loss of Williamson also hurts in this regard. 

Then, when Copeland comes back they will make a decision. 

-I think you are right about the back end CB spots. Some are up in the air up until the last minute. However, right now I would put the top 3 + K.Brown, A.Brown, T.Campbell, and Nickerson (Cooper is odd man out). 7 total CBs. 

*There's also a good chance the Jets decide to keep Shepherd and carry 7 D-linemen and 6 CBs (making Nickerson a tough cut). It all depends on what happens with the CB position in the last weeks before the season starts. 

-I like Bertolet. I liked him last year. I know he had a rocky start but he has the leg (56 yarder on Sat) and he seems to now be in a groove. He's young and can be a long term solution. I think he could stick. 

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Good job Glenn.

I think the CB position is going to have one or two new names on it, guys that aren't on the roster right now. If there is a position the Jets can be healthy at all year (other than QB), please let it be CB. They can win some games with Trumaine Johnson, Darryl Roberts, Brian Poole but the depth beyond that is still so bad.

DLine -- Shepherd, he seemed so promising last year. Sucks how he disappeared.

Kicker - I don't think the kicker is on the team right now.

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1 hour ago, PepPep said:

-I think Burgess or even Langi stays over Wint, I think McLellan stays on as a vet special teamer over Peake and the Jets carry 6 WRs, 9LBs. 9 LBs might sound like a lot but if the Jets do intend to play a lot of nickel and 3-4 they will need guys that can do different things. The loss of Williamson also hurts in this regard. 

Then, when Copeland comes back they will make a decision. 

-I think you are right about the back end CB spots. Some are up in the air up until the last minute. However, right now I would put the top 3 + K.Brown, A.Brown, T.Campbell, and Nickerson (Cooper is odd man out). 7 total CBs. 

*There's also a good chance the Jets decide to keep Shepherd and carry 7 D-linemen and 6 CBs (making Nickerson a tough cut). It all depends on what happens with the CB position in the last weeks before the season starts. 

-I like Bertolet. I liked him last year. I know he had a rocky start but he has the leg (56 yarder on Sat) and he seems to now be in a groove. He's young and can be a long term solution. I think he could stick. 

I agree with above but the 1 other item I would change is Brown over Tomilinson. I don't think he stays

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5 minutes ago, GreenFish said:

If he makes it, he’ll likely get cut once Herndon gets back.

Great point. A lot has to happen with waiver claims and signing players who are cut. 

But there are two guys on the final 53 that will go when Herndon and Copeland come back from suspension in Week 5. It'll be interesting to see which ones they are. 

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14 hours ago, JetNation said:

 

Cornerback (7): Trumaine Johnson, Darryl Roberts, Brian Poole, Marcus Cooper, Alex Brown, Parry Nickerson, Kyron Brown

 

I know this horse has been summarily beaten but good lord that is putrid.  That alone should keep Maccagnan unemployed for years.  

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This is Gase speaking on Jachai Polite and it sounds a lot like Gase talking about Maccagnan the week before they fired Maccagnan. He suggests that Polite isn't doing (or can't do) what Gregg Williams wants his OLBs to do on defense (read: uncoachable) and that he's not athletic enough to play special teams. Gase calling him a "defensive end, when you think about it" is brutal. Then Gase goes out of his way to name five other OLBs that are playing better (including Basham and Luvu) in a way that sounds like Polite isn't making the team. 

 

 

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And then there's this, from a Manish article from last week. Manish talks to Joe Vitt and Gregg Williams, who both give on-the-record "Hey, he's trying" quotes, but then you get the asides like this. Yikes:

Polite was a terror with 11 sacks, 17 tackles for loss and six forced fumbles in his final season at Florida, but it’s an entirely different ballgame now. Although he’s impressed with his football I.Q., he needs to play with a greater sense of urgency.

“He is pushing himself hard,” defensive coordinator Gregg Williams said. “He's had a lot of different positions he's doing, but he's taking the next step. It’s been a shock for him to see how everybody at this level can play. He's not going against somebody that doesn't get a chance at the NFL. Everybody here can play. He's done well.”

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Here's my punt, pre-final preseason game:

1.       Darnold, QB

2.       Siemian, QB

3.       Bell, RB

4.       Montgomery, RB

5.       Powell, RB

6.       Cannon, RB/KR

7.       Anderson, WR

8.       Enunwa, WR

9.       Crowder, WR

10.   Bellamy, WR

11.   Burnett, WR

12.   Dortch, WR/PR

13.   Peake, WR

14.   Griffin, TE

15.   Tomlinson, TE

16.   Wesco, TE

17.   Beachum, OL

18.   Osemele, OL

19.   Kalil, OL

20.   Winters, OL

21.   Shell, OL

22.   Edoga, OL

23.   Harrison, OL

24.   Lewis, OL

25.   Compton, OL

26.   Q Williams, DL

27.   L Williams, DL

28.   Anderson, DL

29.   McLendon, DL

30.   Fatukasi, DL

31.   Kaufusi, DL

32.   Shepherd, DL

33.   Mosley, LB

34.   Hewitt, LB

35.   Cashman, LB

36.   McClellan, LB* (cut from initial 53, then brought back once Qvale goes onto IR-R)

37.   Jenkins, LB

38.   Luvu, LB

39.   Basham, LB

40.   Polite, LB

41.   Langi, LB

42.   Johnson, CB

43.   Roberts, CB

44.   Poole, CB

45.   K Brown, CB

46.   A Brown, CB

47.   Adams, S

48.   Maye, S

49.   Miles, S

50.   Middleton, S

51.   Bertolet, K

52.   Edwards, P

53.   Hennessy, LSN

Suspended – Herndon, TE

PUTP – Austin, CB

IR (Pre 53) – Williamson, LB (Post 53) – Qvale, OL

Non-Football injury – Jalin Moore, RB

PS

Alexandre, LB

C Anderson, OL

Campbell, CB

Falk, QB

Holmes, RB/WR (international exemption)

Miller, OL

Mosley, LB

Nickerson, CB

Phillips, DL

White, WR

Wint, LB

 

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2 hours ago, T0mShane said:

This is Gase speaking on Jachai Polite and it sounds a lot like Gase talking about Maccagnan the week before they fired Maccagnan. He suggests that Polite isn't doing (or can't do) what Gregg Williams wants his OLBs to do on defense (read: uncoachable) and that he's not athletic enough to play special teams. Gase calling him a "defensive end, when you think about it" is brutal. Then Gase goes out of his way to name five other OLBs that are playing better (including Basham and Luvu) in a way that sounds like Polite isn't making the team. 

 

 

Lmaoo this is a horrible take he literally didn’t say anything the way your speculating it. It’s interesting though seeing you take his words and spin into your own pessimistic point of view.

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1 hour ago, Scoop24 said:

Lmaoo this is a horrible take he literally didn’t say anything the way your speculating it. It’s interesting though seeing you take his words and spin into your own pessimistic point of view.

He says he’s not athletic enough to play special teams and that every other OLB is doing the things Greg Williams wants to do but Polite isn’t. 

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18 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

He says he’s not athletic enough to play special teams and that every other OLB is doing the things Greg Williams wants to do but Polite isn’t. 

Cimini the only guy willing to ask these questions too. While Costello asked Gase to not call any timeouts on Thursday and throw zero passes to beat traffic.

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18 hours ago, Maxman said:

Good job Glenn.

I think the CB position is going to have one or two new names on it, guys that aren't on the roster right now. If there is a position the Jets can be healthy at all year (other than QB), please let it be CB. They can win some games with Trumaine Johnson, Darryl Roberts, Brian Poole but the depth beyond that is still so bad.

DLine -- Shepherd, he seemed so promising last year. Sucks how he disappeared.

Kicker - I don't think the kicker is on the team right now.

Hey, let's draft bouncers with our 3rd picks, what could possibly go wrong?

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2 hours ago, T0mShane said:

He says he’s not athletic enough to play special teams and that every other OLB is doing the things Greg Williams wants to do but Polite isn’t. 

Shepard & Polite, 3rd round terrors. Makes me laugh thinking back to possible trades & our fans screaming, 3rd round is WAY TOO high for a guy that can ACTUALLY PLAY IN THE NFL. 

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2 hours ago, T0mShane said:

He says he’s not athletic enough to play special teams and that every other OLB is doing the things Greg Williams wants to do but Polite isn’t. 

No he said special teams are for smaller guys . He didn’t say he wasn’t athletic enough. Polite is gonna need time . If teams rushed to cut developing players after there first preseason . Guys like Melvin Ingram and Dee Ford would not exist . 

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20 hours ago, ElBarrioJets said:

If Bellamy and Cannon are here for specials, for the love of God, use Peake's roster spot somewhere else.

can't believe they'd possibly keep all 3 ... if they do my current hopeful feelings about Douglas/Gase take a big hit :(

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4 hours ago, T0mShane said:

He says he’s not athletic enough to play special teams and that every other OLB is doing the things Greg Williams wants to do but Polite isn’t. 

Not often do I agree with T0m but Gase is calling him out without calling him out. Gase was basically hedging that maybe this guy could figure it out at some point but right now this dude is swimming in the deep end and doesn't know how to float. 

1 hour ago, Jetster said:

Shepard & Polite, 3rd round terrors. Makes me laugh thinking back to possible trades & our fans screaming, 3rd round is WAY TOO high for a guy that can ACTUALLY PLAY IN THE NFL. 

To think most of this board was ecstatic when Winovich fell to them in the 3rd. Shepard was a Mikey mac Special... Older College player that dominated in Division 2, how many have these ever worked in the NFL because I can't remember one. To think Arden Key was available at that pick... god dammit. 

1 hour ago, Scoop24 said:

No he said special teams are for smaller guys . He didn’t say he wasn’t athletic enough. Polite is gonna need time . If teams rushed to cut developing players after there first preseason . Guys like Melvin Ingram and Dee Ford would not exist . 

He is not going to be Ingram or Ford. Those, when drafted, were more complete linebackers. Polite may have the physical ability to do more but at the moment it seems like he doesn't have the smarts to do more. And as a pass rusher, he is failing against 2s and 3s... this is a terrible sign. If he truly was moving up the draft boards at the end of 2018 to the first round he would at least be pressuring the QB on almost every play against these lineman that won't even make a team.

He had a couple of encouraging plays, chasing down the RB from the opposite side after he failed to apply pressure, and the chasing of Hill to the sidelines but seriously, if he is as good as they were touting you would have seen more dominance. 

He still can be Jenkins with more ability in 2-3 years from now but sh*t man, Winovich is going to be another star in NE along with Nikovich

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Jets C Jonotthan Harrison: A Pro's Pro Who Jets Can Depend On

Eric Allen

SENIOR REPORTER

 

When training camp started, Jonotthan Harrison had set his sights on locking down the starting center position. But the landscape changed when the Green & White signed five-time Pro Bowler Ryan Kalil on Aug. 1st. As the 34-year-old Kalil has gradually increased his workload in practice, Harrison has served as the first unit’s pivot throughout preseason game action.

“I just have to keep up with my game,” Harrison said recently. “Keep working and whenever my number’s called ⁠— and that could be Game 1 or that could be Game 13 ⁠— I have just to be ready.”

The Jets had originally scheduled Kalil’s debut for this past Saturday when the club matched up with the Saints at MetLife Stadium. But they reconsidered that approach, taking into consideration Kalil had less than a full week of practice in pads under his belt.

“We’re 15 days away from the opener, so we feel good he’s going to have plenty of time to be ready for Week 1,” said GM Joe Douglas two hours prior to kickoff. “One of the reasons we feel good about that, not only is Ryan in a good place, but Jonotthan Harrison has had an amazing camp. His professionalism, his athleticism, his strength, he’s been a stud throughout this entire camp. That’s one of the main reasons we feel good about what we’re doing tonight.”

The 28-year-old Harrison, in his sixth season out of Florida, started eight games for the Jets last season. His mindset never changed after Kalil’s addition as he kept his head down and maintained a positive mindset.

“The biggest compliment I could give anyone in the room that I coach is you’re a pro’s pro,” said OL coach Frank Pollack. “And what that means is I don’t care how many zeroes you have at the end of your paycheck, I don’t care how many Pro Bowls you’ve been to, it’s all about how he prepares and works and that guy is a pro’s pro. He’s been a pro since Day 1 and he’s still a pro like nothing has changed for him at all in his approach. He’s been a great guy to coach.”

Entering the NFL as an undrafted free agent in 2014, Harrison started 23 games with the Colts while appearing in 48 regular-season contests over the course of his first three NFL seasons. His first 19 starts in 2014-15 came at center but he also got playing time at LT, RT, C, RG and third TE in Indy before signing with the Green & White in 2017. The 6’4”, 300-pounder makes no bones about it that he is a center, but his position flexibility remains a huge asset.

“Don’t get me wrong, I want the world to know that I’m striving to be a center,” he said. “Understanding the offense kind of helps me with the versatility, being able to go to either guard or if they need an extra lineman on the field. I’ve played a little fullback as well.”

Douglas, a former collegiate tackle at Richmond, has already bolstered the depth of his offensive line with the signing of Kalil and the trade for guard Alex Lewis. In the Jets’ second and third preseason contests, Harrison was flanked by LG Lewis and RG Tom Compton while Kalil played catch-up and Kelechi Osemele (pec strain) and Brian Winters (shoulder) were on the mend.

“A lot of depth, a lot of competition. It’s a great group, a great batch of guys,” Harrison said. “These are guys who buy into the system and are understanding the system and how Coach Pollack wants things done and how Coach Gase wants things done. It’s a great room. Of course that moment is coming up when we’re going to lose a few of the guys, but whoever remains we’re going to have great depth and we’re going to have great continuity throughout the offensive line.”

Harrison won’t be going anywhere anytime soon. He is perfect fit for the selfless culture Gase and Douglas are instilling at One Jets Drive.

“There are always things I can work on and that’s part of being a pro, being able to identify what you need to work on,” Harrison said. “Every practice, every day, striving to take that much more of a step to get better.”

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11 hours ago, T0mShane said:

This is Gase speaking on Jachai Polite and it sounds a lot like Gase talking about Maccagnan the week before they fired Maccagnan. He suggests that Polite isn't doing (or can't do) what Gregg Williams wants his OLBs to do on defense (read: uncoachable) and that he's not athletic enough to play special teams. Gase calling him a "defensive end, when you think about it" is brutal. Then Gase goes out of his way to name five other OLBs that are playing better (including Basham and Luvu) in a way that sounds like Polite isn't making the team. 

Amazing how you hear things how you want to hear them.

What I heard was; there is a lot more to playing the position than getting after the QB.  Currently, Polite doesnt know how to do any of those things and the other guys do.  

And he referenced size, not athleticism when it came to Special Teams.

I know  it's very important to you that Polite gets cut before the season so you can be right on the interwbez for once but my god man, at least try next time.

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Powell-not on roster in 2020 but a backup RB who can block will be important for Darnold.  If Powell could be replaced it would not be bad.

The following guys should not be on the roster-giving anyone else with a ounce of upside a try would be better:

Tomlinson

Peake

Wint.  McClellan and Anthony would be better to keep.

Nickerson’s spot was just taken by Hairston.

I like the OL for this team-it will not be that easy to find another team’s cut that knocks someone off. 

Polite should not be on the roster.  I think its 50/50 he can survive to the Practice Squad.

I would keep Shepherd and maybe fewer LBs.   There is no reason anymore for Williams to run a 3-4 when the better players are DL.

We should expect a surprise at S. I actually liked the idea of Bryant, but the way he injured himself was cut worthy-clear head on head hit.  He should be suspended/fined for that. 

 

 

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2 hours ago, JiF said:

What I heard was; there is a lot more to playing the position than getting after the QB.  Currently, Polite doesnt know how to do any of those things and the other guys do.  

I was going to mention this but I just couldn’t wrap my head around the idea that a UF man would struggle with something on an intellectual level. 

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3 hours ago, T0mShane said:

I was going to mention this but I just couldn’t wrap my head around the idea that a UF man would struggle with something on an intellectual level. 

https://www.collegeconsensus.com/rankings/best-public-colleges/

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/top-public

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