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slimjasi
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Darron lee for any NFL corner is a win in my book

KRL
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People expecting to find Revis type of corners at this time of the year are delusional.  The goal is to find corners with legit NFL experience which can deepen the group.  We aren't going to bring

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So we essentially traded Darron Lee for corner help.  I can dig it.  

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He's definitely not helping me in Madden with his 69 overall grade.    Whats the scouting report on him?
     

You could get him to 71 quick and he’s already be better than Nickerson and whatever other bum is on our madden jets roster lol. I always trade trumaine and Roberts. Usually 3 cbs on the eagles are on the trading block (wish those 3 were in real life)


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From Coltswire:

https://coltswire.usatoday.com/2019/03/04/indianapolis-colts-nate-hairston-player-review-2018/

Colts 2018 player review: CB Nate Hairston 

By:    Kevin Hickey | March 4, 2019 1:00 pm ET     

As the 2018 season moved along into the second half, a name in the Indianapolis Colts secondary that fell by the wayside was cornerback Nate Hairston.

A 2017 fifth-round pick that had a solid rookie campaign, Hairston started out the season as one of the cornerbacks heavily in the rotation for the secondary. However, he rarely saw any playing time during the second half.

Hairston wound up playing 13 games (seven starts) while recording 30 tackles (25 solo) and just one pass defended without an interception.

Hairston was heavily in the rotation throughout the first half of the season. In five of the first six games, Hairston played at least 98.2 percent of the defensive snaps. He missed Week 5 against the New England Patriots due to injury.

He seemed to be well on his way to securing a major role in the defense. However, he was benched in during the Week 8 game against the Oakland Raiders after a coverage breakdown led to a touchdown.

After that Hairston was basically nowhere to be found. Over the second half of the season, the Temple product didn’t see more than six snaps on the defensive side of the ball in any game.

While Hairston saw little time playing in the second half, the Colts defense took off and fellow second-year cornerback Quincy Wilson took over as the CB3 behind Kenny Moore and Pierre Desir.

It isn’t clear what the whole story was with Hairston’s benching, but the fact that he rarely saw any playing time in the second half suggests he has a lot to prove in Year 3.

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1 minute ago, Jetsfan80 said:

We had the extra 6th to play with thanks to the Darron Lee trade:

 

2020 draft picks remaining

  • 1st rounder
  • 2nd rounder
  • 3rd rounder
  • 4th rounder
  • 5th rounder
  • 6th rounder (from KC - Darron Lee trade)
  • 7th rounder (conditional to BAL - Alex Lewis trade)

Jets site says we traded the KC 6th rounder and kept our own

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From StampedeBlue.com

https://www.stampedeblue.com/2019/8/13/20803112/report-colts-could-be-active-trading-with-excess-positional-depth

Nate Hairston:
The Colts 2017 5th round pick had an impressive rookie season as a slot cornerback.

However, he struggled last season, starting 7 of the team’s first 8 games, before falling out of the positional rotation entirely—hampered by nagging injuries.
By all indications, Nate Hairston has had somewhat of a bounce-back off-season—even if he struggled in last week’s preseason opener against the Buffalo Bills.

The Colts already have their top four cornerbacks solidified: Pierre Desir, Quincy Wilson, Kenny Moore, and Rock Ya-Sin.

Kenny Moore is predominantly the Colts slot cornerback these days and with fellow backup Chris Milton as a special teams’ ace gunner, where does that leave Hairston?

In a neck-and-neck battle with rookie 5th round pick Marvell Tell?

I’m no oddsmaker, but I don’t currently like his chances

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He's definitely not helping me in Madden with his 69 overall grade.    Whats the scouting report on him?

 
 
 

 

Apparently, he's short, slow and fat...but has a nice personality. I'll pass but may try to set him up with my cousin.

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From StampedeBlue.com

https://www.stampedeblue.com/2019/8/13/20803112/report-colts-could-be-active-trading-with-excess-positional-depth

Nate Hairston:
The Colts 2017 5th round pick had an impressive rookie season as a slot cornerback.

However, he struggled last season, starting 7 of the team’s first 8 games, before falling out of the positional rotation entirely—hampered by nagging injuries.
By all indications, Nate Hairston has had somewhat of a bounce-back off-season—even if he struggled in last week’s preseason opener against the Buffalo Bills.

The Colts already have their top four cornerbacks solidified: Pierre Desir, Quincy Wilson, Kenny Moore, and Rock Ya-Sin.

Kenny Moore is predominantly the Colts slot cornerback these days and with fellow backup Chris Milton as a special teams’ ace gunner, where does that leave Hairston?

In a neck-and-neck battle with rookie 5th round pick Marvell Tell?

I’m no oddsmaker, but I don’t currently like his chances

 

Lovely!  Let's get him back out there for revenge in Week 1. :shock:

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http://www.nfl.com/draft/2017/profiles/nate-hairston?id=2558108

OVERVIEW

Hairston didn't have much luck finding playing time at receiver his first three years with the Owls, but a change to cornerback his junior year may help him earn a spot in the NFL. He played in eight games as a redshirt freshman, missing four with an ankle injury, catching seven passes for 62 yards. His production was only slightly better in 2014 (13-88 in seven games) before the team switched him to defense. In 2015, he played in all 13 games at cornerback, starting two (11 tackles, one pass breakup). Hairston took the reins of the position as a senior, intercepting two passes and breaking up three others while making 27 tackles, three for loss.

ANALYSIS

STRENGTHS

 Has good size and well-built lower body. Built like a more physical player and lives up to it. Competes hard when the ball heads his way. Will knife in at full-speed when he reads hitch or wide receiver screen. Quick to shuck and attack in run support. Former wide receiver at Temple who plays with fluid movement in space. Loose hips allow for smooth transitions in matching patterns and longer strides in space. Has adequate foot quickness and twitch. Plays with a good feel for coverage responsibilities. Diligent to protect against speed and is rarely beaten over the top.

WEAKNESSES

 Only one season as a full-time starter. Targeted just 36 times in college with only six passes defensed. Man cover skills are work in progress. Footwork can be a little uneven in his backpedal and transitions. Will panic and face guard rather than finding the ball when he gets beat over the top. Protected somewhat by cover-2 and cover-3 looks. Needs more man experience. Scouts question his long speed. Leaves an excessive buffer in his bail technique leading to easy completions underneath.

DRAFT PROJECTION

 Round 5-6

BOTTOM LINE

 Raw but very moldable prospect. Hairston shows good awareness from zone and his physical style and willingness to come tackle make him an immediate fit for primarily zone cover teams. However he may have the tools to eventually become a solid bump-and-run cornerback as he becomes more experienced at the position. Hairston is a projection-based talent who should become a much better player in two years than he is today.
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From StampedeBlue.com

https://www.stampedeblue.com/2019/8/13/20803112/report-colts-could-be-active-trading-with-excess-positional-depth

Nate Hairston:
The Colts 2017 5th round pick had an impressive rookie season as a slot cornerback.

However, he struggled last season, starting 7 of the team’s first 8 games, before falling out of the positional rotation entirely—hampered by nagging injuries.
By all indications, Nate Hairston has had somewhat of a bounce-back off-season—even if he struggled in last week’s preseason opener against the Buffalo Bills.

The Colts already have their top four cornerbacks solidified: Pierre Desir, Quincy Wilson, Kenny Moore, and Rock Ya-Sin.

Kenny Moore is predominantly the Colts slot cornerback these days and with fellow backup Chris Milton as a special teams’ ace gunner, where does that leave Hairston?

In a neck-and-neck battle with rookie 5th round pick Marvell Tell?

I’m no oddsmaker, but I don’t currently like his chances

Isn't Marvell Tell a safety?  He was a safety prospect coming out, with about the worst comments about intangibles you will find.

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Jets trade for Colts’ Nate Hairston | 5 thoughts on move to strengthen pitiful CB group

Updated 12:49 PM; Today 12:30 PM

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By Matt Stypulkoski | NJ Advance Media for NJ.com

The Jets just made a move to help plug their biggest hole.

General manager Joe Douglas dealt a sixth-round pick to the Colts in exchange for cornerback Nate Hairston on Wednesday afternoon, the team announced.

Cornerback is by far the Jets’ biggest weakness right now; the team lacks experience at the position and has been relying heavily on young, raw players this summer.

The move comes just ahead of this weekend’s 53-man roster deadline. So, the CBs that have been fighting it out for a job just saw one spot disappear, making the position battle even tougher.

Here are three thoughts on Hairston, this trade and what it means:

1. Much needed depth move

The Jets could not afford to enter this season with their current crop of cornerbacks. The group simply is not good enough. Frankly, it still isn’t, even after this trade. But at least Hairston provides some measure of experience; he’s played 27 games and started 11 during his two seasons. So, he’s still young, but he also has a grasp of what it takes to play in the NFL. That’s a big plus. Signing Marcus Cooper a couple weeks ago was Douglas’ first step toward building depth. Now this helps even more. 

2. Smart not to wait

The Jets could have – and still can – sign and/or claim cornerbacks when they become available this weekend, after teams make their end-of-summer cuts. Those waiver claims and signings cost nothing, unlike this trade, which obviously cost the Jets a sixth-round pick. But Douglas was smart not to wait to address the problem. The CB spot is incredibly weak and needs plenty of work; if the Jets are sold on Hairston and believe he can make a difference, then it’s worth the low-level pick to secure him right now, instead of hoping he hit the scrap heap in a few days. Even if Hairston did get cut, there’s no guarantee the Jets would have gotten him, even with their strong waiver position. Sure, Douglas could have scooped up other corners if he missed on Hairston. But it’s better the be proactive and pay a small price, if you can afford it, than get stuck reacting and dumpster diving through the NFL’s waste bin in the hopes of finding a gem. Douglas’ creative, aggressive approach shines through again here.

3. First of many familiar faces?

Hairston comes from the Colts – where Jets assistant GM Rex Hogan worked until a couple months ago. One big advantage of the Jets’ front office staff coming together late this offseason? They have great familiarity with the 90-man roster of all the teams from which they just came. Hogan, obviously, knows the Colts. Douglas knows the Eagles. Chad Alexander, director of player personnel, knows the Ravens. Phil Savage, senior football adviser, knows recent draft picks across the league from his time as Senior Bowl director. That’s a wide swath of intimate knowledge about other teams around the league. This latest move could be a sign the Jets plan on tapping into those connections this weekend, when more talent becomes available.

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4. Bad news for Parry Nickerson?

Hairston played slot corner for the Colts last season. Brian Poole is going to start in that spot for the Jets this season. Does the team really need three slot cornerbacks on the roster? And if they do, is Nickerson even in line to get one? After all, Arthur Maulet was taking some slot reps ahead of Nickerson at points this summer. Moral of the story: This move could well be the nail in the coffin for Nickerson’s time with the Jets. If so, that’s another strike against former GM Mike Maccagnan’s draft record; Nickerson was a sixth-round pick just a year ago. The goal was to teach him to play the slot, after he played outside in college. That has not worked.

5. 2020 draft picks going quickly

The Jets have already traded away two of their eight 2020 draft picks. This trade gave away one of their two sixth-round selections – they’d banked an extra one by trading linebacker Darron Lee to the Chiefs. The Jets’ seventh-round pick was conditionally sent to the Ravens in exchange for offensive lineman Alex Lewis earlier this summer. Lewis looks poised to make the roster, in which case the Ravens will most likely acquire that pick.

This is the price the Jets pay for having terrible depth; they’ve been forced to deal away future assets to fix the problems in the here and now. On the bright side, though, late round picks are lottery tickets. The Jets used them to acquire known quantities. That’s not a bad thing. And they still have picks in each of the first six rounds, even after this trade. So it’s not like the Jets will be unable to find talent in the draft next spring.

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34 minutes ago, Lith said:

However, he was benched in during the Week 8 game against the Oakland Raiders after a coverage breakdown led to a touchdown. 

Oh no, we're playing the Raiduhs and already gave no chance according to Raiduhaholic.

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Looks like this roster is a work in progress. We should be seeing much action over the next week plus. Trumaine Johnson is a key factor in the secondary. He is back to practice now. If Williams can get him back on the right track maybe we can get some production out of the secondary which has looked pretty bad so far. 

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14 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said:

Isn't Marvell Tell a safety?  He was a safety prospect coming out, with about the worst comments about intangibles you will find.

Safety at USC. Colts moved him to corner; he has been playing CB for them in preseason.

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