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This is a good sign that Douglass appropriately values 6th round picks. Too many GMs believe they are able to turn any pick into gold and cling to them.

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Just now, jgb said:

This is a good sign that Douglass appropriately values 6th round picks. Too many GMs believe they are able to turn any pick into cold and cling to them.

he's using low picks to get depth, the type of depth that mccagnan couldn't find with his lower picks.  what's missing are the quality starters at cb/OL, but those aren't easily available.  next offseason...

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3 minutes ago, DetroitRed said:


Cardinals would’ve nabbed him


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Thank you. Just like his earlier move this off season, he sees a player that we "might" be able to get but there is risk. So instead of hoping to get lucky throwing a few pennies into the well, he gets the guy he wants so he can focus on other moves. 

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1 minute ago, Sarge4Tide said:

Current CBs (12)

 

    22 - Trumaine Johnson 6'1" 205 Montana (CB) (Injury)         
    34 - Brian Poole 5'10" 205 Florida (CB)    (Free Agent Signing)  
    27 - Darryl Roberts 6'0" 182 Marshall  (CB)   
    xx - Nate Hairston  6'0" 195 Temple(CB)  (Trade with Colts)
    35 – Tevaughn Campbell 6’0” 195 Regina (CB/S?) (Reserve/Future Contract)       
    40 - Kyron Brown 6'1" 195  Akron  (CB)   (2019 UDFA) 
    43 - Parry Nickerson 5'10"182 Tulane (CB) 
    31 - Marcus Cooper 6'2" 197 Rutgers  (CB)   (Veteran Free Agent)
    37 – Arthur Maulet 5’10” 190 Memphis (CB) (Reserve/Future Contract) 
    25 - Alex Brown 5'11" 170  South Carolina St. (CB)   (Waivers from Eagles) 
    32 - Mark Myers 5'10" 185 Southeastern Univ. (CB)   
    41 - Blessaun Austin 6'1" 198 Rutgers (2019 Draft Pick) (CB)   (Active / Non-Football Injury)

If we’re able to get someone that can start and move Roberts to a backup role, that’s looking descent.

Biggest concerns coming into the spring: OL, CB and Edge. Douglas is making progress. He brought in Khalil and depth players in Hairston and Lewis.

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Gregg Williams will coach him up to a pro bowler.  😁 J/K

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10 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said:

Sounds like this guy was getting cut within the next week.  Not sure why we didnt just wait and get him off waivers.

After watching "With the Next Pick" about the Colts draft process and knowing Hogan was a big part of it... I'm totally fine with this move.

The Colts CB depth chart has so many guys I wish the Jets would have taken a flyer on (Quincy Wilson, Jalen Collins, Desir, Langley, Tell). Instead they went with late round lottery tickets that were injured or had limited experience (McDougle, Clark, Jones, Nickerson, Austin).

The one guy I thought would pan out was Juston Burris -- who now seems to be stepping up for Cleveland. 

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I scoured some Colts message boards to see how they felt, and it hasn't been lopsided either way.

 

Some comments of "Well we got something for him, even though he was probably the odd man out", and a couple instances of "Sad to see him go, he was one of the bight spots on that 2017 defense"

 

I'm not happy about trading away future picks, but at the same time, this is a alarmingly huge area of concern that I think whether its a good or bad move, it is necessary.

Trades with Indy seem to work well for us(Darnold, Henry Anderson), i'm hoping that things do in fact go in threes.

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Nate Hairston

Joe Douglas didn’t wait for the waiver wire to improve the Jets cornerback situation. Adam Schefter is reporting that the Jets have agreed to trade their 2020 6th round pick to the Colts for cornerback Nate Hairston.

Trade: Jets dealing a 2020 6th-round pick to the Colts for CB Nate Hairston, per source. Hairston started 11 games the past two years. Still has two years left on his contract.

— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) August 28, 2019

Hairston is 6’0 and weighs 185lbs. He played at Temple before being drafted by the Colts in the 5th round of the 2017 NFL Draft.  Some interesting tidbits in his bio from NFL.com.

Hairston didn’t have much luck finding playing time at receiver his first three years with the Owls, but a change to cornerback his junior year may help him earn a spot in the NFL. He played in eight games as a redshirt freshman, missing four with an ankle injury, catching seven passes for 62 yards. His production was only slightly better in 2014 (13-88 in seven games) before the team switched him to defense. In 2015, he played in all 13 games at cornerback, starting two (11 tackles, one pass breakup). Hairston took the reins of the position as a senior, intercepting two passes and breaking up three others while making 27 tackles, three for loss.

Has good size and well-built lower body. Built like a more physical player and lives up to it. Competes hard when the ball heads his way. 

Only one season as a full-time starter. Targeted just 36 times in college with only six passes defensed. Man cover skills are work in progress. 

Raw but very moldable prospect. Hairston shows good awareness from zone and his physical style and willingness to come tackle make him an immediate fit for primarily zone cover teams. However he may have the tools to eventually become a solid bump-and-run cornerback as he becomes more experienced at the position. Hairston is a projection-based talent who should become a much better player in two years than he is today.

The Jets will still have a 6th round draft pick next year, Brian Costello explains it in this tweet.

The Jets have two sixth-round picks in 2020 – their own and Kansas City’s from the Darron Lee trade. The Colts will get whichever one is the worse pick. #nyj

— Brian Costello (@BrianCoz) August 28, 2019

Glenn Naughton with some additional thoughts and you can read more about Nate Hairston in our forums.

Several tweets saying Hairston is a slot corner. 6' 0'' with a 4.52 doesn't sound like a slot corner so I took a peek. Per PFF, Hairston played 36 reps in the slot last season and 338 on the boundary.

— Glenn Naughton (@AceFan23) August 28, 2019

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1 minute ago, KRL said:

People expecting to find Revis type of corners at this time of the year are
delusional.  The goal is to find corners with legit NFL experience which can
deepen the group.  We aren't going to bring in elite talent at the position
until next years free agent/ draft period

^ Gets it.

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He has to be, at the very least, competitive with what the Jets have at corner.

And he is probably better because the Jets' current crop is abysmal...

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Jets assistant general manager Rex Hogan has been in the Colts front office for the past two seasons as their vice president of player personnel, so he surely gave the Jets a thorough scouting report on Hairston.

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41 minutes ago, Sarge4Tide said:

Current CBs (12)

 

  #1 CB   22 - Trumaine Johnson 6'1" 205 Montana (CB) (Injury)         
 Slot CB  34 - Brian Poole 5'10" 205 Florida (CB)    (Free Agent Signing)  
 #2 CB    27 - Darryl Roberts 6'0" 182 Marshall  (CB)   
 #4 CB   xx - Nate Hairston  6'0" 195 Temple(CB)  (Trade with Colts)
    35 – Tevaughn Campbell 6’0” 195 Regina (CB/S?) (Reserve/Future Contract)       
#5 CB    40 - Kyron Brown 6'1" 195  Akron  (CB)   (2019 UDFA) 
 (#7 CB if they keep 7)  43 - Parry Nickerson 5'10"182 Tulane (CB) 
 #6 CB   31 - Marcus Cooper 6'2" 197 Rutgers  (CB)   (Veteran Free Agent)
    37 – Arthur Maulet 5’10” 190 Memphis (CB) (Reserve/Future Contract) 
    25 - Alex Brown 5'11" 170  South Carolina St. (CB)   (Waivers from Eagles) 
    32 - Mark Myers 5'10" 185 Southeastern Univ. (CB)
  
 PUP  41 - Blessaun Austin 6'1" 198 Rutgers (2019 Draft Pick) (CB)   (Active / Non-Football Injury)

Blue are outside CBs and Red are exclusive to slot. (Hairston played outside in College and inside on the Colts)

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5 minutes ago, joewilly12 said:

Jets assistant general manager Rex Hogan has been in the Colts front office for the past two seasons as their vice president of player personnel, so he surely gave the Jets a thorough scouting report on Hairston.

Ummmm, I'm pretty confident that Hogan was with the Jets when the Colts were scouting Nate Hairston.  He didnt join the Colts till May 2017.  

 

 

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7 minutes ago, joewilly12 said:

Jets assistant general manager Rex Hogan has been in the Colts front office for the past two seasons as their vice president of player personnel, so he surely gave the Jets a thorough scouting report on Hairston.

As with so many of the back end guys we have because of horrible drafting and roster management, any time a guy like Hairston is available, the answer is always...'he's not great, but he's lots better than anybody we have on our roster."

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1 minute ago, section314 said:

As with so many of the back end guys we have because of horrible drafting and roster management, any time a guy like Hairston is available, the answer is always...'he's not great, but he's lots better than anybody we have on our roster."

Main reason Maccagnan isn't here anymore

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6 minutes ago, JiF said:

Ummmm, I'm pretty confident that Hogan was with the Jets when the Colts were scouting Nate Hairston.  He didnt join the Colts till May 2017.  

 

 

Take it up with Brian Costello from the NY Post 

Jets trade for Nate Hairston in desperate cornerback search

By Brian Costello

August 28, 2019 | 12:29pm | Updated 

Jets general manager Joe Douglas did not wait for cutdown weekend to make a much-needed move at cornerback.

The Jets swung a trade with the Colts on Wednesday for third-year cornerback Nate Hairston. They are sending a sixth-round pick to Indianapolis in the deal, which is pending a physical.

Hairston was a fifth-round pick of the Colts in 2017. He has played in 27 games, starting 11 over the past two seasons. He has one career interception.

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Hairston, 25, has battled injuries in his career – hamstring and ankle injuries and a concussion have all cost him time.

The Jets desperately needed to upgrade their depth at cornerback behind starters Trumaine Johnson, Darryl Roberts and Brian Poole. They had mostly inexperienced players behind them. Hairston gives them a legitimate backup and an option if one of the starters struggles.

Jets assistant general manager Rex Hogan has been in the Colts front office for the past two seasons as their vice president of player personnel, so he surely gave the Jets a thorough scouting report on Hairston.

Douglas could make more moves at cornerback this weekend when teams cut their rosters down to 53.

 

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Using draft picks that give you 4 years of a rookie contract for a player with 1 or 2 years left are not great moves when done in volume (and as the strategy of the Jets’ prior GMs),  but we are giving JD the benefit of the doubt here.

The Jets pick 3 on the waiver wire and could have picked up Hairston but that was not guaranteed-CBs are hot commodities.   JD theoretically has one more low round draft pick to trade for another team’s likely cut-their remaining 6th.  After that, it is all waiver wire pickups.   I still think we see a lot of them.  

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9 minutes ago, joewilly12 said:

Take it up with Brian Costello from the NY Post 

Jets trade for Nate Hairston in desperate cornerback search

By Brian Costello

August 28, 2019 | 12:29pm | Updated 

Jets general manager Joe Douglas did not wait for cutdown weekend to make a much-needed move at cornerback.

The Jets swung a trade with the Colts on Wednesday for third-year cornerback Nate Hairston. They are sending a sixth-round pick to Indianapolis in the deal, which is pending a physical.

Hairston was a fifth-round pick of the Colts in 2017. He has played in 27 games, starting 11 over the past two seasons. He has one career interception.

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Hairston, 25, has battled injuries in his career – hamstring and ankle injuries and a concussion have all cost him time.

The Jets desperately needed to upgrade their depth at cornerback behind starters Trumaine Johnson, Darryl Roberts and Brian Poole. They had mostly inexperienced players behind them. Hairston gives them a legitimate backup and an option if one of the starters struggles.

Jets assistant general manager Rex Hogan has been in the Colts front office for the past two seasons as their vice president of player personnel, so he surely gave the Jets a thorough scouting report on Hairston.

Douglas could make more moves at cornerback this weekend when teams cut their rosters down to 53.

 

I dont know Brian Costello and he wasnt the one that posted it on this site, so I'll take it up with you!  

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Hairston will add depth at CB, and will probably be the top backup option in the slot. Neither Nickerson nor Maulet have been impressive in pre-season, so this adds an option behind Poole.

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1 hour ago, Sarge4Tide said:

Current CBs (12)

 

    22 - Trumaine Johnson 6'1" 205 Montana (CB) (Injury)         
    34 - Brian Poole 5'10" 205 Florida (CB)    (Free Agent Signing)  
    27 - Darryl Roberts 6'0" 182 Marshall  (CB)   
    xx - Nate Hairston  6'0" 195 Temple(CB)  (Trade with Colts)
    35 – Tevaughn Campbell 6’0” 195 Regina (CB/S?) (Reserve/Future Contract)       
    40 - Kyron Brown 6'1" 195  Akron  (CB)   (2019 UDFA) 
    43 - Parry Nickerson 5'10"182 Tulane (CB) 
    31 - Marcus Cooper 6'2" 197 Rutgers  (CB)   (Veteran Free Agent)
    37 – Arthur Maulet 5’10” 190 Memphis (CB) (Reserve/Future Contract) 
    25 - Alex Brown 5'11" 170  South Carolina St. (CB)   (Waivers from Eagles) 
    32 - Mark Myers 5'10" 185 Southeastern Univ. (CB)   
    41 - Blessaun Austin 6'1" 198 Rutgers (2019 Draft Pick) (CB)   (Active / Non-Football Injury)

As always...Thanks Sarge

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Reminds me of the trade with Baltimore for Alex Lewis.  We are trading for depth that wouldn't have made it past the teams ahead of us in the waivers claim.  That does have a measurable value.  Depth we never really much had under Mr. Coffee's reign.  If the players end up sticking long term giving up those picks is really negligible.

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