Jets Cuts

[Peteo]

21 minutes ago, Peace Frog said:

That was me. Not because I believed he was very good but I just can’t believe you give up on a third rounder that quick. 

Oh well. 

Once in camp any player has to earn his spot on the roster.  Polite did nothing to earn his spot. Where he was drafted has nothing to do with it IMHO.

[Sarge4Tide]

JETS ROSTER UPDATES

Offense  (32)
Quarterback  (3) 
    14 - Sam Darnold 6'3" 221  USC  
    19 - Trevor Siemian 6'3" 220 Northwestern  (Free Agent Signing)  
     8 - Luke Falk 6'4" 223 Washington State (Waivers from Miami) 
     5 - Davis Webb 6'5" 225 Cal     WAIVED

Running Back  (4) 
    26 - Le'Veon Bell 6'1" 225 Michigan State (Free Agent Signing)  
    88 - Ty Montgomery 6'0" 216 Stanford (WR/KR) (Free Agent Signing) 
    40 - Trenton Cannon 5'11" 185  Virginia State  (KR)   
    29 - Bilal Powell 5'10 205 Louisville 
    25 - Elijah McGuire 5'10" 214 LA-Lafayette WAIVED

Tight End   (3)   
    87 - Daniel Brown 6'5" 243 James Madison (TE)(Free Agent Signing)  
    47 - Trevon Wesco 6'3" 267  West Virginia (TE) (2019 Draft Pick)
    85 - Ryan Griffin 6'6" 255 UCONN (TE) (Released by Texans)   
    83 - Eric Tomlinson 6'6" 263 UTEP (TE) (UNRESTRICTED FA - Re-Signed) WAIVED         
    89 - Chris Herndon 6'4" 253 Miami (TE) (4 Game Suspension)  

Wide Receiver   (10) 
    81 - Quincy Enunwa 6'2" 225 Nebraska   (WR)    
    11 - Robby Anderson 6'3" 190 Temple (WR)  
    82 - Jamison Crowder 5'9" 177 Duke (WR) (Free Agent Signing) 
    15 - Josh Bellamy 6'0" 208 Louisville (WR) (Free Agent Signing)  
    18 - Deontay Burnett 6'0" 180 USC (WR) 
     2 - Greg Dortch 5'7" 173  Wake Forest (2019 UDFA) (WR/KR)  
    10 - Deonte Thompson  6'0" 204 Florida (WR/KR?)  (Veteran Free Agent) 
     6 - Tim White   5'10" 185 Arizona State (WR) 
    17 - Charone Peake 6'3" 205 Clemson (WR)   
     9 - Jeff Smith 6'0" 195  Boston College (2019 UDFA) WAIVED
    84 - Quincy Adeboyejo  6'3" 200 Mississippi (WR)   (Veteran Free Agent)   

Offensive Line   (12) 
    68 - Kelvin Beachum 6"3" 303  SMU (T)   
    72 - Brandon Shell 6'5" 325 South Carolina (T)  
    70 - Kelechi Osemele 6'5" 330 Iowa State (G)  (Acquired via Trade with Raiders) 
    55 - Ryan Kalil 6"2" 300 USC (C)
    67 - Brian Winters 6'4" 320 Kent State (G)    
    75 - Chuma Edoga 6'3" 308 (T) USC (2019 Draft Pick)  
    77 - Tom Compton 6'6" 314 South Dakota (G/T) (Free Agent Signing)    
    78 - Jonotthan Harrison 6"4" 300 Florida (C)
    61 - Alex Lewis 6'6" 315 Michigan (G)  (Trade with Ravens)
    65 - Eric Smith 6'4" 308 Virginia (T)  
    64 - Jon Toth   6'5" 310 Kentucky (C) (Reserve/Future Contract) 
    76 - Calvin Anderson  6'4" 292 Texas (T) (UDFA/Waiver Patriots)  
    71 - Wyatt Miller  6'5" 306  Central Florida (OT)  (2019 UDFA) WAIVED
    69 - Benjamin Braden 6'6" 335 Nebraska (G/T) WAIVED
    60 - Ryan Anderson  6'6" 305 Wake Forest  (C) (2019 UDFA) WAIVED
    66 - Jordan Morgan 6'3" 313 Kutztown  (G) WAIVED
    79 - Brent Qvale 6'7 315 Nebraska (G/T)  (UNRESTRICTED FA - Re-Signed) (INJURY)  

Defense (36)
Defensive Line  (9)  
    92 - Leonard Williams 6'5 300 USC (DE/DT)  
    96 - Henry Anderson 6'6" 300  Stanford (DE)  (UNRESTRICTED FA - Re-Signed) 
    95 - Quinnen Williams 6'3" 303 (DT) Alabama (2019 Draft Pick)  
    99 - Steve McLendon 6'3" 310 Troy (DT) (UNRESTRICTED FA - Re-Signed) 
    91 - Bronson Kaufusi 6'6" 275 BYU (DE/OLB?) 
    94 - Foley Fatukasi 6'4" 318 UCONN (DE/DT)     
    97 - Nathan Shepherd 6'4" 315  Ft. Hays State (DE/DT)  
    98 - Kyle Phillips 6'4" 277  Tennessee (DE)  (2019 UDFA)
    59 - Justin Alexandre 6'5" 256  Incarnate World (DL / LB?) (2019 UDFA) 
    64 - Trevon Sanders 6'2" 327 Troy  (DT) (2019 UDFA) WAIVED
    62 - Myquon Stout  6'1" 280  Appalachian State (DL)  (2019 UDFA) WAIVED

Linebacker  (12)  
    57 - CJ Mosley 6'2" 250 Alabama (ILB) (Free Agent Signing) 
    48 - Jordan Jenkins 6'3" 259 Georgia (OLB)   
    53 - Blake Cashman 6'1" 237 (ILB) Minnesota (2019 Draft Pick)
    46 - Neville Hewitt 6'2" 234 Marshall (ILB) (UNRESTRICTED FA - Re-Signed)   
    50 - Frankie Luvu 6'3" 235 Washington State (OLB)  
    93 - Tarell Basham 6'4" 266 Ohio (OLB / DE?)      
    52 - Anthony Wint 6'0" 224 FIU (ILB)      
    47 - Albert McClellan 6'2" 235 Marshall (ILB) 
    44 - Harvey Langi 6'2" 250 BYU (ILB)   
    58 - James Burgess  6'0" 230 Louisville (LB) (Veteran Free Agent) 
    55 - Stephone Anthony  6'3" 245 Clemson (LB) (Veteran Free Agent)   Recently Added
    49 - Jamey Mosley 6'5" 239  Alabama (LB)  (2019 UDFA) 
    56 - Jachai Polite 6'3" 258 (OLB/DE) Flroida (2019 Draft Pick)   WAIVED (?)
    51 - Brandon Copeland 6'3" 263 Penn (OLB) (UNRESTRICTED FA - Re-Signed)   (4 Game Suspension)  

Cornerback  (9)  
    22 - Trumaine Johnson 6'1" 205 Montana (CB)    
    34 - Brian Poole 5'10" 205 Florida (CB)    (Free Agent Signing)  
    27 - Darryl Roberts 6'0" 182 Marshall  (CB)   
    xx - Nate Hairston 6'0"185 Tulane (CB)  (Trade with Colts - 6th round pick)
    35 – Tevaughn Campbell 6’0” 195 Regina (CB/S?) (Reserve/Future Contract)       
    43 - Parry Nickerson 5'10"182 Tulane (CB) 
    31 - Marcus Cooper 6'2" 197 Rutgers  (CB)   (Veteran Free Agent)
    37 – Arthur Maulet 5’10” 190 Memphis (CB) (Reserve/Future Contract) 
    32 - Mark Myers 5'10" 185 Southeastern Univ. (CB)   
    25 - Alex Brown 5'11" 170  South Carolina St. (CB)   (Waivers from Eagles)  WAIVED
    40 - Kyron Brown 6'1" 195  Akron  (CB)   (2019 UDFA) WAIVED
    41 - Blessaun Austin 6'1" 198 Rutgers (2019 Draft Pick) (CB)   (Active / Non-Football Injury)

Safety   (6)   
    33 - Jamal Adams 6'0" 214 LSU  (S) 
    45 - Rontez Miles 6'1" 210 California (PA) (S)  
    20 - Marcus Maye 6'0" 210 Florida  (S)   
    30 - Derrick Kindred 5'10" 208  TCU (S) (Waivers from Colts)   
    XX - Matthais Farley 5'11" 204  Temple (S) (Waivers from Colts)   
    36 - Doug Middleton 6'0" 210 Appalachian State  (S)   
    23 - Godwin Igwebuike 6'0" 212 Northwestern (S) (Waivers from Eagles) WAIVED
    39 - Santos Ramirez  6'2" 205  Arkansas  (2019 UDFA) WAIVED

Special Teams (4)
Punter    (2) 
    4 - Lachlan Edwards 6'4" 215 Sam Houston State (P)  
    3 - Matt Darr 6'1" 217 Tennessee (P)

Kicker    (1) 
    1 - Taylor Bertolet 5'9" 188 Texas A+M (PK) (Free Agent Signing)  

Long Snapper   (1)  
    42 - Thomas Hennessy 6'2" 246 Duke (LS)

International Player Pathway (Non-Roster) - 1 
    39 - Valentine Holmes 6'1" 200 Australia (RB/WR/KR) 

Injured Reserve - 2
    54 - Avery Williamson 6'1" 246 Kentucky (ILB)  
    38 - Brandon Bryant 6'0" 215 Mississippi State (S) 

Reserve / Non-Football Injury - 1
    30 - Jalin Moore  5'10" 212 Appalachian State (RB) (2019 UDFA)

[kdels62]

I liked him. This is a good story.

[JoeWillieWhiteShoesHOF]

1 hour ago, Jet Nut said:

So he was better with an excuse of saving money.

Thats why his top draft picks like Milliner were solid.  ANd his FQB was one Geno Smith.  

No, Idzik was indescribably bad, same as Maccagnan, both should have never been given the job in the first place.  Comparing the two is pretty much like comparing dog business on a curb on a summer day sitting next to some guys vomit who came out of a bar.

Its not as though the thought is that Idzik was way “better” than Maccagnan.  It’s close.  The whole point of the exercise was to show how incredibly bad Maccagnan was in that you could even make a case for Idzik being “better”.

Idzik took a shot with Geno Smith in the 2nd, the Jets have perennially needed a QB forever at the time, if you remember that year was the weakest QB class in probably a generation, with Buffalo taking EJ Manual in the first (I don’t even know how that guy managed to play college ball much less making the pros), same as Maccagnan, squinting, while watching Hackenberg work out, took him in the 2nd, which was way worse, Smith at one point was projected as the 1st pick in the draft and fell.  Hackenberg?  100,000 Penn St fans who watched everyone of his snaps fell over laughing in unison on hearing Maccagnan had just drafted him in the 2nd.

[Jet Nut]

5 minutes ago, JoeWillieWhiteShoesHOF said:

No, Idzik was indescribably bad, same as Maccagnan, both should have never been given the job in the first place.  Comparing the two is pretty much like comparing dog business on a curb on a summer day sitting next to some guys vomit who came out of a bar.

Its not as though the thought is that Idzik was way “better” than Maccagnan.  It’s close.  The whole point of the exercise was to show how incredibly bad Maccagnan was in that you could even make a case for Idzik being “better”.

Idzik took a shot with Geno Smith in the 2nd, the Jets have perennially needed a QB forever at the time, if you remember that year was the weakest QB class in probably a generation, with Buffalo taking EJ Manual in the first (I don’t even know how that guy managed to play college ball much less making the pros), same as Maccagnan, squinting, while watching Hackenberg work out, took him in the 2nd, which was way worse, Smith at one point was projected as the 1st pick in the draft and fell.  Hackenberg?  100,000 Penn St fans who watched everyone of his snaps fell over laughing in unison on hearing Maccagnan had just drafted him in the 2nd.

Look, they both suck, I'm not wasting anyones time, mine included, looking for fine details of who is better or worse.

Macc had better early picks, Macc made better trades, Macc signed some FAs who worked out and some who didnt, while Idzik hardly tried to fix the roster.  

A podcast by someone I dont even know isnt factual proof of anything other than its that guys opinion 

[Tony MaC]

Jeez, how long has it been since they cut a top 100 pick before his first season? They aren't playing around! I would have thought he would make it to next year's camp at least.

[Apache 51]

3 minutes ago, Peteo said:

Once in camp any player has to earn his spot on the roster.  Polite did nothing to earn his spot. Where he was drafted has nothing to do with it IMHO.

One would think they would have made a better judgement call on a 3rd rounder with less doubt potentially cutting said pick, after all it's the purpose of having a scouting dept. and GM etc.

[Tony MaC]

3 minutes ago, Jet Nut said:

Look, they both suck, I'm not wasting anyones time, mine included, looking for fine details of who is better or worse.

Macc had better early picks, Macc made better trades, Macc signed some FAs who worked out and some who didnt, while Idzik hardly tried to fix the roster.  

 

Their drafting was about as good as each others, which is to say poor. Mac was better at everything else. People rag on paying Fitz, Revis and Wilkerson but those guys came off good years and didn't necessarily show signs of being liabilities. (well, Fitz had a shaky history but I don't blame him for trying to bring him back for a one off)

It really was his poor drafts that killed Maccagnan more than anything in my opinion, too many misses from round 2 on.

[RobR]

38 minutes ago, Peace Frog said:

That was me. Not because I believed he was very good but I just can’t believe you give up on a third rounder that quick. 

Oh well. 

If only there was some way to predict before he was drafted that he would fail at this level.

[Jet Nut]

42 minutes ago, Peace Frog said:

That was me. Not because I believed he was very good but I just can’t believe you give up on a third rounder that quick. 

Oh well. 

I was in the same place.  Figured they would look at him as a developmental player and he would stick.

JD and Gase dont mess around, time waits for no one, lol

[kdels62]

Lol the takes of “he never got to rush the passer are the worst”

[Peace Frog]

8 minutes ago, RobR said:

If only there was some way to predict before he was drafted that he would fail at this level.

NFL GMs should check in with fan forum arm chair GMs. 

[Peace Frog]

4 minutes ago, Jet Nut said:

I was in the same place.  Figured they would look at him as a developmental player and he would stick.

JD and Gase dont mess around, time waits for no one, lol

Queue the arm chair GMs with the “I told you! I KNEW it!!”  

[Peace Frog]

13 minutes ago, Tony MaC said:

Their drafting was about as good as each others, which is to say poor. Mac was better at everything else. People rag on paying Fitz, Revis and Wilkerson but those guys came off good years and didn't necessarily show signs of being liabilities. (well, Fitz had a shaky history but I don't blame him for trying to bring him back for a one off)

It really was his poor drafts that killed Maccagnan more than anything in my opinion, too many misses from round 2 on.

Burning 3, 4th and 5th round picks not even on the roster after 1 year killed me. Inexcusable. 

Plus Hack, and as much has Hack and the pick of Hack sucked, I’m guessing he was trying to catch lightening in a bottle of spilled milk.

[RobR]

5 minutes ago, Peace Frog said:

NFL GMs should check in with fan forum arm chair GMs. 

Me maybe, but definitely not you.

[Peace Frog]

7 minutes ago, kdels62 said:

Lol the takes of “he never got to rush the passer are the worst”

Well he did, just to zero effect. 

[RobR]

11 minutes ago, Jet Nut said:

I was in the same place.  Figured they would look at him as a developmental player and he would stick.

JD and Gase dont mess around, time waits for no one, lol

Combine and pro day numbers matter no matter how much you want too argue that they don't.  

[Peace Frog]

Just now, RobR said:

Me maybe, but definitely not you.

Never said I was a talent expert. 

Only idiots that aren’t employed by the league think that. 

[RobR]

6 minutes ago, Peace Frog said:

Queue the arm chair GMs with the “I told you! I KNEW it!!”  

Were they right or wrong? 

[kdels62]

1 minute ago, RobR said:

Were they right or wrong? 

How dare they use precedent and readily available information to draw reasonable conclusions!

[RobR]

Just now, kdels62 said:

How dare they use precedent and readily available information to draw reasonable conclusions!

#armchair GM

[Jet Nut]

Just now, RobR said:

Were they right or wrong? 

They were right because he ultimately washed out.

Not because his combine numbers were bad due to overweight and pulled hammy. 

But its not really important other than to give you more posts to buttfumble

[RobR]

1 minute ago, Jet Nut said:

They were right because he ultimately washed out.

Not because his combine numbers were bad due to overweight and pulled hammy. 

But its not really important other than to give you more posts to buttfumble

Just eat the dick with some class and move on. 

[kdels62]

3 minutes ago, Jet Nut said:

They were right because he ultimately washed out.

Not because his combine numbers were bad due to overweight and pulled hammy. 

But its not really important other than to give you more posts to buttfumble

They were right because their final conclusion was right? That seems obvious.

[Peace Frog]

6 minutes ago, RobR said:

Were they right or wrong? 

Look, I know you were rooting for a NY Jet third round pick to fail so you could pound your shallow chest and say “See! I told you! I was RIGHT!!”

But you’re just guessing. Just like the rest of us non-real GMs. 

 

[kdels62]

Lach Edwards a top 5 pick of the Macc regime

[BurnleyJet]

Polite is the kind of player why Macc got the knife “pun intended”.

If you measured poorly athletically you aren’t going to worry anyone In the NFL.  

The guy was the Hackenberg of OLB’s, it also tells the team no one is safe. Douglas also slotted Neil Glat this week.

[Jet Nut]

4 minutes ago, RobR said:

Just eat the dick with some class and move on. 

Hey, you got one right.  Everyone does from time to time

Difference is you feel the need to tell everyone you got this one right.

Go back to blowing yourself, I'm sure it makes you feel good.

[Jet Nut]

3 minutes ago, kdels62 said:

They were right because their final conclusion was right? That seems obvious.

Who said the end wasnt true, he was a bust.  no one is arguing that 

[RobR]

Just now, Peace Frog said:

Look, I know you were rooting for a NY Jet third round pick to fail so you could pound your shallow chest and say “See! I told you! I was RIGHT!!”

But you’re just guessing. Just like the rest of us non-real GMs. 

 

When you have a track record that goes back many years it's not guessing. 

And if you knew me I never come back and rub things in peoples faces but you and Jetnut deserved it. So eat your dick with class and move on. He's gone.

[kdels62]

1 minute ago, Jet Nut said:

Who said the end wasnt true, he was a bust.  no one is arguing that 

But why was he a bust? It’s not a random occurrence. Especially since it falls in line with evidence that is readily available.

[Peace Frog]

2 minutes ago, BurnleyJet said:

Polite is the kind of player why Macc got the knife “pun intended”.

If you measured poorly athletically you aren’t going to worry anyone In the NFL.  

The guy was the Hackenberg of OLB’s, it also tells the team no one is safe. Douglas also slotted Neil Glat this week.

See I don’t think that’s true. 

The Ghost was the Hackenberg of OLB/DEs. 

Almost all his production came in about 2 college games, he looked like Tarzan played like Jane. Like Hack. 

Polite was a pretty productive player at UF but looks like a totally different guy now. Tentative, lost, confused. 

That’s not a function of the Combine or pro days. He’s not the same player he was in college. Weird. 

[joewilly12]

 2h2 hours ago

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Source: Jets Waive CB Kyron Brown http://bit.ly/2UoR5tW  #Jets

 

[Peace Frog]

3 minutes ago, RobR said:

When you have a track record that goes back many years it's not guessing. 

And if you knew me I never come back and rub things in peoples faces but you and Jetnut deserved it. So eat your dick with class and move on. He's gone.

Eat dick...with class?

That’s  funny. You’re just a sad little kid guessing like the rest of us. 

You don’t know any more or less than 100 guys here that watch college football. 

Your “track record”. Lol. Sounds like you’re a legend in your own mind. 

[Scoop24]