JohnnyLV Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 9 minutes ago, Untouchable said: The FA crop for WR’s and OL next offseason is pretty terrible. Arguably worse than this past offseason. Also, I don’t see the Jets picking in the Top 10 next year...so what are the odds of us landing an edgerusher as good or better than Clowney in the latter half of the 1st round, much less after that? I wouldn’t give up a 1st for him, but a 2nd? Yeah, sure. And that’s supposedly what the Texans are seeking. The next 2 years is prime time for spending before he have to start devoting a huge chunk of the cap towards Darnold every year moving forward. Clowney isn’t Khalil Mack (if he was, you’d have to part with a minimum of two 1st round picks in order to obtain him), but he’s still a damn good player who is one of the more freakish edgerushers in the league and is still only 26. Except he is an unresticted FA next year, no matter what so you get him for ONE YEAR at the cost of cap space, draft capital and opportunity cost. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenFish Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 1 hour ago, Ghost420 said: How does one recruit someone whose being traded? Fact is Clowney doesn't have much say as to where he goes. He has plenty of leverage. He can simply tell the team he gets traded to that he won’t play. He won’t get paid but, it does impact the acquiring team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenFish Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 32 minutes ago, Untouchable said: The FA crop for WR’s and OL next offseason is pretty terrible. Arguably worse than this past offseason. Also, I don’t see the Jets picking in the Top 10 next year...so what are the odds of us landing an edgerusher as good or better than Clowney in the latter half of the 1st round, much less after that? I wouldn’t give up a 1st for him, but a 2nd? Yeah, sure. And that’s supposedly what the Texans are seeking. The next 2 years is prime time for spending before he have to start devoting a huge chunk of the cap towards Darnold every year moving forward. Clowney isn’t Khalil Mack (if he was, you’d have to part with a minimum of two 1st round picks in order to obtain him), but he’s still a damn good player who is one of the more freakish edgerushers in the league and is still only 26. We have 3 years until we have to back up the brinks for Darnold. A sense of urgency is warranted. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenFish Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 23 minutes ago, johnnysd said: Except he is an unresticted FA next year, no matter what so you get him for ONE YEAR at the cost of cap space, draft capital and opportunity cost. We can resign him though. And in the meantime, we try and actually go to the playoffs this year. Add Clowney and a CB to this team and we’ll be playoff contenders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenFish Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 You can’t block Clown Dog. Only real concern is the injury issues. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomebodytoAnybody47 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 2 hours ago, Rhg1084 said: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomebodytoAnybody47 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 2 hours ago, Rhg1084 said: Vegas gambling steam with the exclusive!! Always a solid source I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 If you have a chance to get a top 32 player in the NFL, you do it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 2 hours ago, Untouchable said: Would be pretty sweet if we hear about a Clowney trade soon. What left tackle on the Jets do you think they want? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenbloodblitz Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Hey maybe we can trade Jamal Adams for Clowney? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 7 minutes ago, New York Mick said: What left tackle on the Jets do you think they want? The only one I'd give them is Beachum. That is, if Edoga is ready for prime time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 15 minutes ago, Spoot-Face said: The only one I'd give them is Beachum. That is, if Edoga is ready for prime time. They’d want a high pick as well, it’s not like Beachum is very good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYallDay Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Sure, and WR/OL is hands down my preferred route for our 1st round pick next year. Give me someone like Tee Higgins or Walker Little and I’ll be over the moon. But I’d still give up a 2nd for Clowney (preferably a 3rd and maybe a conditional pick). Otherwise, odds are we’ll just continue marching out the Brandon Copeland’s, Frankie Luvu’s and Harvey Langi’s of the NFL landscape.Luvu shows promise. Copeland ehh jag and Langi slightly less than jagSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenFish Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 29 minutes ago, New York Mick said: They’d want a high pick as well, it’s not like Beachum is very good. Supposedly the asking price is a second. Supposedly because everyone is just guessing at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRy56 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Gary Vee is jumping in too - don’t be surprised if this gets done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobR Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 1 hour ago, GreenFish said: We can resign him though. And in the meantime, we try and actually go to the playoffs this year. Add Clowney and a CB to this team and we’ll be playoff contenders. He would have to be signed to an extension before any trade took place. Then this entire trade scenario would make sense because we're not a team that should be giving up assets for a one year rental. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Frog Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 18 minutes ago, BigRy56 said: Gary Vee is jumping in too - don’t be surprised if this gets done Gary Vee is kind of a douchebag. He insists upon himself. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 6 hours ago, GreenFish said: Supposedly the asking price is a second. Supposedly because everyone is just guessing at the moment. They’ve been saying they want a LT. If it was for a second round pick and you knew he’d sign a long term contract it would be a no brainer but he might not sign and walk after one season. That means you gave up a second round pick to rent a player that’s not going to get the current team to the playoffs. It would be one of the dumbest things in Jets history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop24 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 done deal headed to Seahawks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeptable Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Just now, Scoop24 said: done deal headed to Seahawks They needed rbs I wonder if penny is part of the deal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 1 minute ago, Scoop24 said: done deal headed to Seahawks Will be interesting to see what Sea is giving up. Not sorry we missed out. I am not a big Clowney fan. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomebodytoAnybody47 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 8 minutes ago, Lith said: Will be interesting to see what Sea is giving up. Not sorry we missed out. I am not a big Clowney fan. Yeah, he’s good but got a sh*t attitude. Oh well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 3 minutes ago, Samtorobby47 said: Yeah, he’s good but got a sh*t attitude. Oh well. That is exactly why I did not want him unless it was a cheap below market deal. He may play hard under the tag, but he is the type of guy you worry about once he gets paid; and we have already been through it with another guy like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Lupz27 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 So Clowney gave Jamaal a stiff arm as he ran to daylight in Seattle like Alex Smith once did on the field ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 14 hours ago, jgb said: If you have a chance to get a top 32 player in the NFL, you do it. Yeah but we might miss out on the next Jonah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 4 minutes ago, Scoop24 said: Looks like we will have a horrible pass defense this year after all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Amazing how the Seahawks win a super bowl just a couple years ago, almost win another and are they complacent? No they get Clowney at a cheap cost Meanwhile jets have 0.0 pass rush 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 21 minutes ago, Philc1 said: Amazing how the Seahawks win a super bowl just a couple years ago, almost win another and are they complacent? No they get Clowney at a cheap cost Meanwhile jets have 0.0 pass rush I mean, they won a Super Bowl six seasons ago (2013-2014) and went to their last super bowl 5 seasons ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SR24 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Wow for a 3rd rounder hurts to miss out on that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Just now, SR24 said: Wow for a 3rd rounder hurts to miss out on that But he’s “lazy!” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 3 minutes ago, SR24 said: Wow for a 3rd rounder hurts to miss out on that 3rd rounder + two players + you only control him for one year. I think it’s a good deal for Seattle, but by no means a slam dunk. I would have been considerably more interested if we could have signed him longterm 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SR24 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 3 minutes ago, slimjasi said: 3rd rounder + two players + you only control him for one year. I think it’s a good deal for Seattle, but by no means a slam dunk. I would have been considerably more interested if we could have signed him longterm mingo and some other JAG and then a 3rd. Solid deal for the Seahawks that defense should be really good this year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 4 minutes ago, SR24 said: mingo and some other JAG and then a 3rd. Solid deal for the Seahawks that defense should be really good this year I agree. Solid deal for them. But I just think people need to realize that the return was affected greatly by the contract situation. If Seattle feels they are a legit SB contender, I think it makes total sense for them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomebodytoAnybody47 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 1 hour ago, Lith said: That is exactly why I did not want him unless it was a cheap below market deal. He may play hard under the tag, but he is the type of guy you worry about once he gets paid; and we have already been through it with another guy like that. Though for the peanuts Seattle gave up, would’ve def done that deal. BUT Clowney wanted to be in seattle. So that helps things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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