Jet Nut Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 6 minutes ago, Philc1 said: Yes it does. Clowney’s numbers have improved every year His sack totals went down last year His number of tackles went down Not my much but not an improvement over the prior year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 2 minutes ago, Philc1 said: He would have gone anywhere the Texans traded him. You are making sh-t up They couldn’t trade him until he signed his tag. He would of just sat out a year and went wherever he wanted and Houston would of gotten nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 1 minute ago, Jet Nut said: His sack totals went down last year By half a sack the Texans offense was also on the field a lot more thanks to Watson being healthy Thx for playing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butterfield Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 3 minutes ago, Philc1 said: He would have gone anywhere the Texans traded him They couldn’t trade him if he didn’t sign his tender. He held all the cards in this one. He was willing to sit out the year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 1 minute ago, New York Mick said: They couldn’t trade him until he signed his tag. He would of just sat out a year and went wherever he wanted and Houston would of gotten nothing. Not everyone is as stupid as Bell Clowney would have signed the tag eventually or simply pay him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King P Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Got him for nothing essentially 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 7 minutes ago, Philc1 said: So extend him. You guys jizzed over giving $50 million to what will be a part time rb Extend him? If he wanted to test FA? And Bell is a much, much better RB than Clowney is a LB. Not even close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Just now, Philc1 said: Not everyone is as stupid as Bell Clowney would have signed the tag eventually or simply pay him You don’t know that. Either way he’s a Seahawk like he wanted and it didn’t cost the Jets anything to get a player for one year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 1 minute ago, Philc1 said: By half a sack the Texans offense was also on the field a lot more thanks to Watson being healthy Thx for playing! You want to argue that a half sack LESS and FEWER tackles is actually an improvement? Really? ANd its because of Watson? Guess it never occured to you that Watson led to leads, other team having to pass more, historically leads to sacks? Or that he had Watt back, drawing attention that should have lead to bigger numbers. Thanks for playing is right! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 3 minutes ago, King P said: Got him for nothing essentially It’s ok we drafted Allen oh wait Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 11 minutes ago, Mogglez said: Clowney held all the cards by not signing that tender. He was never coming here. He wanted Seattle, he got Seattle. We're better off drafting an EDGE anyway, and believe me, I love me some Clowney. That ship sailed when Macc passed on Allen for another DT. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rldev Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Someone is seriously miserable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 1 minute ago, Lupz27 said: That ship sailed when Macc passed on Allen for another DT. This place will be a b-tchfest about Allen next year or so unless QW goes nuts as a rookie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drums Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Glad that’s over and just in case he is as good as some people made him out to be, that he’s far far away. (I looked at him as on a lower tier than Mack, and slightly above Leo.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClashFan Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 9 minutes ago, Embrace the Suck said: I don't think it will take that long to build a quality OL. The difference between now and the past is that this GM and HC know the OL has to be a priority, particularly now with a Franchise QB. I hope you are right, but right now the Jets O-line looks like 5 "hold the fort" guys with only one really interesting young developmental guy (Edoga). They'll probably need 4 new starters in the next 2 years. Hard to get that in one year. Maybe Joe will draft OL in the first three rounds next year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Just now, TheClashFan said: I hope you are right, but right now the Jets O-line looks like 5 "hold the fort" guys with only one really interesting young developmental guy (Edoga). They'll probably need 4 new starters in the next 2 years. Hard to get that in one year. Maybe Joe will draft OL in the first three rounds next year? Our OL is way better than our secondary and OLBs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeptable Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 19 minutes ago, Philc1 said: Yes it does. Clowney’s numbers have improved every year The scenario your making up is based on him dogging his last year in college because he didn’t want to risk losing a $100 million career in the nfl with injury No he has a reputation around the league for only trying on certain situations and taking a lot of snaps off. Just read Houston beat reporters about him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 8 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: You want to argue that a half sack LESS and FEWER tackles is actually an improvement? Really? ANd its because of Watson? Guess it never occured to you that Watson led to leads, other team having to pass more, historically leads to sacks? Or that he had Watt back, drawing attention that should have lead to bigger numbers. Thanks for playing is right! Give him a minute he’ll make something else up. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHT STALKER Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 25 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said: No pass rush/no corner whiners are back. cant wait till this d and gregg williams shuts all the whiners up this year. I hope you're right and all this crap that our corners suck is just BS...but, I doubt it. I think back to when we had Cromartie and Revis in the backfield and can't help wonder how Darnold would fare against that duo in practice. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 This is a trade for a 1 year rental. If you're a Superbowl contender it makes perfect sense. I don't think it would have been a great trade for us. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSteve Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 45 minutes ago, Philc1 said: Another year with zero pass rush and a pass defense that will make the Matt Moore’s and Matt Barkley’s look good enjoy! And Clowney wasn't the answer.... If you want this done right, let Douglas do it right. We draft Clowney, give up draft capital, and have to pay Clowney QB money, this will set the franchise back many years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obrien2Toon Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 52 minutes ago, jetstream23 said: I think their OLine has gotten better in Seattle, hasn't it? If they traded any OLinemen as part of this I'd be disappointed. I have Chris Carson in fantasy and that will be a Rushing offense, even with Russell Wilson. Originally heard it was for one of their starting Olineman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 40 minutes ago, King P said: Got him for nothing essentially That speaks more about Clowney than Houston. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomebodytoAnybody47 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Texans are completely wasting Watson’s time there. O’Brien still having a job is a complete crime. Nobody enjoys him there. He makes the whole organization uncomfortable. They just trade us Hopkins ASAP ? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREENBEAN Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 The lazy pass rusher who is infinitely better than any Outside edge rusher we have had since John Abraham Just because we haven’t had a legit pass rusher since Abraham doesn’t mean you sell the farm for a guy who has never had double digit sacks. Clowny changes nothing. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 1 hour ago, Obrien2Toon said: Carroll is like Maccagnan in his disregard for the Oline Obrien in Houston wasn't so good at it either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 1 hour ago, Joe W. Namath said: No pass rush/no corner whiners are back. cant wait till this d and gregg williams shuts all the whiners up this year. Sure hope you are correct. WIlliams may have a nice scheme, but talent is needed at corner. We don't have much. Williams can scheme all he wants, but he needs more talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 59 minutes ago, Philc1 said: It’s ok we drafted Allen oh wait Allen looked good in pre season vs dolpinheads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark78 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 1 hour ago, BurnleyJet said: I wonder what the package was? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop24 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Damn that’s all they gave up . I would of did that a 3rd , Jenkins, and polite lol .. I’m Kidding but still that’s cheap . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Very surprised that FaceTiming with the President wasn’t enough to land Jadeveon Clowney and Kill Kingsbury what more could they possibly want Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 27 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Very surprised that FaceTiming with the President wasn’t enough to land Jadeveon Clowney and Kill Kingsbury what more could they possibly want #intangibles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeWillieWhiteShoesHOF Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 2 hours ago, Philc1 said: Another year with zero pass rush and a pass defense that will make the Matt Moore’s and Matt Barkley’s look good enjoy! You have a point, but somehow I think things will be much better with a real coach like Gregg Williams rather than Bowles and his check cashing, can’t be Fired, never will be a DC again, best friend Rogers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenFish Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 1 hour ago, Drums said: Glad that’s over and just in case he is as good as some people made him out to be, that he’s far far away. (I looked at him as on a lower tier than Mack, and slightly above Leo.) But that’s a huge upgrade for us. He’s not in that Mack tier, but he’s better than Trey Flowers. My own view is that he’s right there in that second tier with Frank Clark and Lawrence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenFish Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 12 minutes ago, JoeWillieWhiteShoesHOF said: You have a point, but somehow I think things will be much better with a real coach like Gregg Williams rather than Bowles and his check cashing, can’t be Fired, never will be a DC again, best friend Rogers. At some point we have to get an impact guy on the edge. On to the next guy. I’ll just assume Clowney didn’t want to come here and that why JD didn’t pull the trigger. There wasn’t a trigger to pull. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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